Hi folks, what's up? Hope you're all well.
I find it somewhat annoying that $0 doesn't work on messages, is it really impossible?
Now, the worst part is that if you need to go to the find menu and search for "$0-something" it does not find it!!! Is there any way around it?
I even tried sending a message to pd properly but it insists on saying things like "1002-something" not found...
Wouldn't it be nice if some core code changes were made so finding "$0" and dealing with it in messages would work?
I wouldn't know how to do it anyway...
Does this bother other people who knows how to? :)
Thanks a lot
See ya
Hmmm, it does look simpler than I thought :)
Now, where can I find this pretty "Whole Word" Toggle?
Can't seem to find it on my Pd-extended for Mac OS.
I will look harder though.
thanks a bunch
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 8:01 PM, cyrille henry ch@chnry.net wrote:
Am 12.11.2009 um 00:19 schrieb Alexandre Porres:
Hmmm, it does look simpler than I thought :)
Now, where can I find this pretty "Whole Word" Toggle?
in the devel version http://autobuild.puredata.org/auto-build/latest/
Oh wow, no wonder I didn't know :)
Ok, great, I will just wait for the official release :)
Anyway, It still bothers me not being able to deal with "$0" on messages, what you guys think? is there a good reason for it to be this way? Or is it something that could be easily updated on a further version?
Thanks Alex
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Max abonnements@revolwear.com wrote:
yep, sure, it works, but, anyway, I just think it would be easier for some operations if we could use "$0" in messages, that's all...
Thanks
Cheers
Alex
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 3:00 AM, Mike Moser-Booth mmoserbooth@gmail.comwrote:
Alexandre Porres a écrit :
Oh wow, no wonder I didn't know :)
Ok, great, I will just wait for the official release :)
pd 0.42 is in the air for about 1 year, pd 0.42-5 was officially release 6 month ago. http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html
Cyrille
Hey, sure, I meant the Pd-Extended version... :)
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 7:49 AM, cyrille henry ch@chnry.net wrote:
2009/11/12 Alexandre Porres porres@gmail.com
Hey, sure, I meant the Pd-Extended version... :)
http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/
the latest is always here.
abraço glerm
|bang/ | [f $0] | [makefilename %d-sample] | [set $1/ | |window_number-sample/ <-- that's what you need.
abraçz glerm
thanks glerm, I had tried that, but it doesn't work on the find window...
On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 9:38 PM, glerm soares organismo@gmail.com wrote:
Geez, I got like 15 digests at once and kinda I lost it, I know nothing of $$, $@ but I like this expansion idea for what I got fom it.
Anyway, let me get this quote here and...
IOhannes:
come back to my former inquiry, I am sorry if you told me this already and i lost it. But then;
Cheers Alex
Alexandre Porres wrote:
i say "i don't think this can easily be done". this i mean, not the opposite. i come to the conclusion because i read the code (that was years ago, i might be mistaken so please forgive me if its plain wrong): you need a context to evaluate $0 correctly. a message does not have this canvas-context. (this might really be total nonsense; but this is what i seem to remember)
i _think_ that it makes sense to see it as such: objects are citizens of a canvas, messages are something entirely different. they are information passed between the citizens. they are not 2nd class citizens, they belong to another realm!
once you got that, everything is simple :-)
i don't think its general consensus. it's what _i_ think. i don't need $0 in message-boxes so often. i need to construct messages containing $0 for dynamic patching every now and then. but usually the messages i construct are more complex anyhow, so i don't use message-boxes to construct the values but [pack]. e.g.
[pack 0 $0] | [obj 100 $1 fluffy $2( | [s pd-$0-patch]
in this case, the penalty of not being able to write $0 in message boxes is minimal.
keep in mind that this example is somewhat simplistic as well. usually the messages created contain a lot more arguments (>>4) , making the penalty even smaller.
fgmadsr IOhannes