On Jun 4, 2007, at 4:59 PM, timon wrote:

On 4 Jun 2007, at 21:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

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http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

A couple of known issues:

 * it's still missing Gem font support on Mac OS X :(

Who is making this so difficult? It sounds like politics...

The problem has been found, a solution has been proposed and is being
considered. Does that sound like politics too? ;)

.hc

T.

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 * the delread~/sqrt~ bug is still not fixed :(

Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker.

.hc

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On Jun 4, 2007, at 6:08 PM, chris clepper wrote:

On 6/4/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:

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 * it's still missing Gem font support on Mac OS X :(

Did you ever try adding -DFTGL or -DHAVE_FTGL to the build options?

It was a matter of finding the right things automatically. Check
gem-dev for more...

.hc

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pdp_qt/pdp_yqt doesn't work with all codecs (yet?). Try MJPEG, JPEG,
PNG. Those are among the best codecs to use for live video
processing anyway since they take the least CPU to decode.

.hc

On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Jack wrote:

Sorry, i've always the same problem with PDP with Macos 10.4.8. When i try to load QT movie with pdp_qt, there is error message : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported audio codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found.

Le 4 juin 07 à 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

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http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

After a long pause, it's time for another release. That means Release Candidate 2!! Almost there! Yes, there are a couple known bugs, and most definitely unknown bugs. Let's find them and make a final release!

 * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is now default font on Windows and

GNU/Linux * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is included in the Windows installer * Monaco is the default font on Mac OS X * fixed GUI size, should actually be the same size on all platforms now * pdp and pidip should support quicktime/mjpeg/png and theora
now * pdp_ieee1394 included on Mac OS X * the Mac OS X package looks much better, thanks to Steffen stffn@dibidut.dk * default preferences are embedded into the Pd.app on Mac OS X * revamped font flags and added '-font-weight' flag

A couple of known issues:

 * it's still missing Gem font support on Mac OS X :(
 * the delread~/sqrt~ bug is still not fixed :(

Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker.

.hc

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Hmm... try pdp_yqt. Also, try opening the movie included in the
"media" folder in the Help Browser "midr-mjpeg.mov".

.hc

On Jun 4, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Jack wrote:

I try H264, MPEG4, PNG, JPEG but always and always the same error
message ! : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found

Powerbook G4 12'' X11 1.1 XFree86 4.4.0 PD 0.39.2 Extended-rc2 (Download today)

Jack

Le 5 juin 07 à 03:07, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

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pdp_qt/pdp_yqt doesn't work with all codecs (yet?). Try MJPEG,
JPEG, PNG. Those are among the best codecs to use for live video
processing anyway since they take the least CPU to decode.

.hc

On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Jack wrote:

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Sorry, i've always the same problem with PDP with Macos 10.4.8. When i try to load QT movie with pdp_qt, there is error message : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported audio codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found.

Le 4 juin 07 à 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

...

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

After a long pause, it's time for another release. That means
Release Candidate 2!! Almost there! Yes, there are a couple known bugs, and most definitely unknown bugs. Let's find them and make a final release!

 * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is now default font on Windows and

GNU/Linux * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is included in the Windows
installer * Monaco is the default font on Mac OS X * fixed GUI size, should actually be the same size on all platforms now * pdp and pidip should support quicktime/mjpeg/png and
theora now * pdp_ieee1394 included on Mac OS X * the Mac OS X package looks much better, thanks to Steffen stffn@dibidut.dk * default preferences are embedded into the Pd.app on Mac OS X * revamped font flags and added '-font-weight' flag

A couple of known issues:

 * it's still missing Gem font support on Mac OS X :(
 * the delread~/sqrt~ bug is still not fixed :(

Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker.

.hc

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On Tue, 2007-06-05 at 14:43 +0900, hard off wrote:

which one to use with ubuntu studio? it seems to only come with vanilla pd.

ubuntu studio is based on ubuntu feisty, afaik. so, try the pd-extended, that is closest to feisty (afaik, there is only one for edgy, which migth not work, but you never know.........)

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That means it's not finding the libquicktime plugins. I thought I
had that working by sticking the env var into pd.tk, but I guess it's
not working.

Basically, you just need to set LIBQUICKTIME_PLUGIN_DIR in a way that
Pd-extended.app will use it. The easiest way is to use an
Environment Variables preference pane, like this one:

http://www.rubicode.com/Software/RCEnvironment/

To make it work, add LIBQUICKTIME_PLUGIN_DIR, then set it to:

/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2.app/Contents/lib/libquicktime

You'll need to log out and back in for it to take effect. But this
is just a hack. I'll look into making it "just work". Actually, if
you could start Pd from the command line, like this:

/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/pd

Then email back the line that says "Setting
LIBQUICKTIME_PLUGIN_DIR". Mine looks like this:

Setting LIBQUICKTIME_PLUGIN_DIR: /Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended- rc2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../../lib/libquicktime

.hc

On Jun 5, 2007, at 5:12 AM, Tim Boykett wrote:

Just downloaded and tried this (copied midr-mjpeg.mov to the desktop) and got:

pdp_qt: opening /Users/tibo/Desktop/midr-mjpeg.mov pdp_qt: video stream found (320x240 pixels, 12 fps, 169 frames,
mjpa codec) pdp_qt: audio stream found (1 channels, 22050 Hz, 309399 samples,
chunksize 1837) pdp_qt: WARNING: unsupported video codec pdp_qt: WARNING: unsupported audio codec pdp_qt: ERROR: no usable video stream found.

any further ideas?

tim

On 05/06/2007, at 5:44 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

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Hmm... try pdp_yqt. Also, try opening the movie included in the "media" folder in the Help Browser "midr-mjpeg.mov".

.hc

On Jun 4, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Jack wrote:

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I try H264, MPEG4, PNG, JPEG but always and always the same error message ! : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found

Powerbook G4 12'' X11 1.1 XFree86 4.4.0 PD 0.39.2 Extended-rc2 (Download today)

Jack

Le 5 juin 07 à 03:07, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

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pdp_qt/pdp_yqt doesn't work with all codecs (yet?). Try MJPEG, JPEG, PNG. Those are among the best codecs to use for live video processing anyway since they take the least CPU to decode.

.hc

On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Jack wrote:

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Sorry, i've always the same problem with PDP with Macos 10.4.8. When i try to load QT movie with pdp_qt, there is error message : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported audio codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found.

Le 4 juin 07 à 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

...

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

After a long pause, it's time for another release. That means Release Candidate 2!! Almost there! Yes, there are a couple known
bugs, and most definitely unknown bugs. Let's find them and make a final release!

 * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is now default font on Windows  

and GNU/Linux * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is included in the Windows installer * Monaco is the default font on Mac OS X * fixed GUI size, should actually be the same size on all platforms now * pdp and pidip should support quicktime/mjpeg/png and theora now * pdp_ieee1394 included on Mac OS X * the Mac OS X package looks much better, thanks to Steffen stffn@dibidut.dk * default preferences are embedded into the Pd.app on Mac
OS X * revamped font flags and added '-font-weight' flag

A couple of known issues:

 * it's still missing Gem font support on Mac OS X :(
 * the delread~/sqrt~ bug is still not fixed :(

Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker!

http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker.

.hc

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If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem.

I get

pdp_yqt ... couldn't create

so for some reason (there is no other warning message) the object is not getting loaded. Note that I have to (try to) create a pdp object to get a go at loading pdp objects, otherwise they do not get found automatically. Is it possible that the pdp_yqt object is in another library that I should be loading?

tm

On 05/06/2007, at 4:24 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Oops, also, you could try pdp_yqt instead of pdp_qt.

.hc

On Jun 5, 2007, at 5:12 AM, Tim Boykett wrote:

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Just downloaded and tried this (copied midr-mjpeg.mov to the desktop) and got:

pdp_qt: opening /Users/tibo/Desktop/midr-mjpeg.mov pdp_qt: video stream found (320x240 pixels, 12 fps, 169 frames, mjpa codec) pdp_qt: audio stream found (1 channels, 22050 Hz, 309399 samples, chunksize 1837) pdp_qt: WARNING: unsupported video codec pdp_qt: WARNING: unsupported audio codec pdp_qt: ERROR: no usable video stream found.

any further ideas?

tim

On 05/06/2007, at 5:44 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

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Hmm... try pdp_yqt. Also, try opening the movie included in the "media" folder in the Help Browser "midr-mjpeg.mov".

.hc

On Jun 4, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Jack wrote:

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I try H264, MPEG4, PNG, JPEG but always and always the same error message ! : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found

Powerbook G4 12'' X11 1.1 XFree86 4.4.0 PD 0.39.2 Extended-rc2 (Download today)

Jack

Le 5 juin 07 à 03:07, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

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pdp_qt/pdp_yqt doesn't work with all codecs (yet?). Try MJPEG, JPEG, PNG. Those are among the best codecs to use for live video processing anyway since they take the least CPU to decode.

.hc

On Jun 4, 2007, at 8:43 PM, Jack wrote:

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Sorry, i've always the same problem with PDP with Macos 10.4.8. When i try to load QT movie with pdp_qt, there is error message : pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported video codec pdp_qt : WARNING : unsupported audio codec pdp_qt : ERROR : no usable video stream found.

Le 4 juin 07 à 22:46, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit :

> > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html > > After a long pause, it's time for another release. That means > Release > Candidate 2!! Almost there! Yes, there are a couple known > bugs, and > most definitely unknown bugs. Let's find them and make a final > release! > > * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is now default font on Windows > and > GNU/Linux > * Bitstream Vera Sans Mono is included in the Windows > installer > * Monaco is the default font on Mac OS X > * fixed GUI size, should actually be the same size on all > platforms now > * pdp and pidip should support quicktime/mjpeg/png and > theora now > * pdp_ieee1394 included on Mac OS X > * the Mac OS X package looks much better, thanks to Steffen > stffn@dibidut.dk > * default preferences are embedded into the Pd.app on Mac > OS X > * revamped font flags and added '-font-weight' flag > > A couple of known issues: > > * it's still missing Gem font support on Mac OS X :( > * the delread~/sqrt~ bug is still not fixed :( > > Test away and file bugs in the bug tracker! > > http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker. > > .hc > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > - > -- > --- > -- > ---- > > All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man > dies, > one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a > better > language; and every chapter must be so translated.... -John
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On 06/06/2007, at 12:33 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 12:16 +0200, Tim Boykett wrote:

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. Is it possible that the pdp_yqt object is in another library that I should be loading?

afaik, [pdp_yqt] is part of pidip, not of pdp.

Aha! thank you for that, I guessed it might be something like that,
thanks for the correct thing to do!

However, when I try to load pidip with a pidip object, I get a nasty
message: pdp has to be loaded before pidip. Then pidip seems to work:

PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP : version 0.12.20
( ydegoyon@free.fr )

pdp_colorgrid: version 0.4, written by Yves Degoyon
(ydegoyon@free.fr) & Lluis Gomez i Bigorda (lluis@artefacte.org) pidip ... couldn't create

which is fine. Then I can create a pdp_yqt object and open the help
file and try to load the movie and....

pdp_yqt: opening /Users/tibo/Desktop/midr-mjpeg.mov pdp_yqt: unsupported video codec

Which I presume is the same problem I have with the pdp_qt
object....running from the command line I get to see all the failures, which are along the lines of:

load_codec_info_from_plugin: dlopen failed for /Volumes/taten/Apps/ Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../../lib/ libquicktime/lqt_audiocodec.so: dlopen(/Volumes/taten/Apps/Pd-0.39.2- extended-rc2.app/Contents/Resources/bin/../../lib/libquicktime/ lqt_audiocodec.so, 2): Library not loaded: /sw/lib/libiconv.2.dylib Referenced from: /Volumes/taten/Apps/Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc2.app/ Contents/Resources/bin/../../lib/libquicktime/lqt_audiocodec.so Reason: Incompatible library version: lqt_audiocodec.so requires
version 7.0.0 or later, but libiconv.2.dylib provides version 6.0.0

libiconv is the newest in fink (for me).

Any ideas?

Cheers,

tim

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