Why did you use [fiddle~] instead of [bonk~]? As I understand it, [bonk~] was created for percussion, and [fiddle~] for pitched instruments? I've used [bonk~] a fair amount to get attack info and it works quite well. I haven't used [fiddle~] at all, but I was planning on it.

http://crca.ucsd.edu/~tapel/software.html

[fiddle~] - object for pitch following and sinusoidal decomposition [bonk~] - percussion follower

Here's the paper about them: http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/%7Etapel/icmc98.pdf

.hc

On Wednesday, Oct 22, 2003, at 12:24 America/New_York, Olaf Matthes wrote:

metafor schrieb:

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i tried maxlib beat but i think this is just for midi.

Hi Marc,

open the attached patch to see how it could be done using maxlib's beat and fiddle~. In this case I miss-use fiddle~s second outlet (= bang on attack) to get the beat from audio input. In case you just want to trigger events you probably won't need beat, just fiddle~...!?

Olaf#N canvas 285 272 604 394 12; #X floatatom 71 333 8 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 92 307 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X text 148 335 beats per minute; #X obj 114 276 bng 20 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -258699 -1; #X text 144 277 'on beat'; #X text 147 309 milliseconds; #X obj 71 245 beat 4; #X obj 71 222 makenote 60 60; #X msg 71 196 60; #X obj 36 127 readsf~; #X msg 36 92 open $1; #X msg 36 38 bang; #X obj 36 66 openpanel; #X obj 35 155 fiddle~ 1024 1 20 3; #X text 124 35 fiddle~ outputs a bang whenever it thinks a new note arrived , just use this bang to create a faked midi note using makenote and feed this data into beat...; #X msg 105 92 1; #X msg 144 92 0; #X msg 210 222 reset; #X connect 6 0 0 0; #X connect 6 1 1 0; #X connect 6 2 3 0; #X connect 7 0 6 0; #X connect 7 1 6 1; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 9 0 13 0; #X connect 10 0 9 0; #X connect 11 0 12 0; #X connect 12 0 10 0; #X connect 13 1 8 0; #X connect 15 0 9 0; #X connect 16 0 9 0; #X connect 17 0 6 0;

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On Wednesday, Oct 22, 2003, at 18:44 America/New_York, Olaf Matthes
wrote:

Hans-Christoph Steiner schrieb:

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Why did you use [fiddle~] instead of [bonk~]? As I understand it, [bonk~] was created for percussion, and [fiddle~] for pitched instruments?

Because Marc just said something about 'incoming audio signal'. I'm not a drummer so I thought it might be something non-percussive... ;-) In the end you're right and it depends on the input signal which one to use. It might even be possible to build something around 'env~' and probably 'delta' to detect abrupt increase in volume....

I was curious about whether [fiddle~] worked better for you in certain
situations, that's why I asked.

.hc

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