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Unless there is something very wrong with this release, this will be
the final release. Then it'll be posted up on SourceForge as
Pd-0.38.4-extended.
http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
Its actually looking pretty good, maybe not even beta anymore ;)
.hc
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deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from
scarcity."
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Hi Hans-Christoph,
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Unless there is something very wrong with this release, this will be
the final release. Then it'll be posted up on SourceForge as
Pd-0.38.4-extended.
I tried it, works fine besides some issues:
The start up libs can't be removed (add a lib once and never remove).
I can't load the sndfile object (the threaded soundfile by g. Holzmann): load_object: Symbol "libsndfile_setup" not found lib/libsndfile: can't load library No idea why...
I can't find the iemlib. What should I load instead?
I tried some libs I usually use, the rest works fine.
br, Peter
On 1/18/06, Piotr Majdak piotr@majdak.com wrote:
- I can't load the sndfile object (the threaded soundfile by g. Holzmann): load_object: Symbol "libsndfile_setup" not found lib/libsndfile: can't load library No idea why...
The shell object on Windows gives the same 'shell_setup' not found error. I downloaded the whole 54+ MB thing just for that and it doesn't work! Who is in charge of QA around here anyway?
chris clepper wrote:
On 1/18/06, Piotr Majdak piotr@majdak.com wrote:
- I can't load the sndfile object (the threaded soundfile by g. Holzmann): load_object: Symbol "libsndfile_setup" not found lib/libsndfile: can't load library No idea why...
The shell object on Windows gives the same 'shell_setup' not found error. I downloaded the whole 54+ MB thing just for that and it doesn't work! Who is in charge of QA around here anyway?
the best thing would be automated tests (like matju's PureUnity framework) especially there should be a test for the existance of an object.
unfortunately pd provides no way to test, whether an object created successfully; probably this could be done with dyn2??
so each time a package gets built and released, a log of the unittest-framework should be released on the homepage too, so people who care could have a look at these before proceeding to download.
mfga.sdr. IOhannes
On Jan 18, 2006, at 9:03 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
chris clepper wrote:
On 1/18/06, Piotr Majdak piotr@majdak.com wrote:
- I can't load the sndfile object (the threaded soundfile by g.
Holzmann): load_object: Symbol "libsndfile_setup" not found lib/libsndfile: can't load library No idea why...
The shell object on Windows gives the same 'shell_setup' not found error. I downloaded the whole 54+ MB thing just for that and it doesn't work! Who is in charge of QA around here anyway?
the best thing would be automated tests (like matju's PureUnity
framework) especially there should be a test for the existance of an object.unfortunately pd provides no way to test, whether an object created
successfully; probably this could be done with dyn2??so each time a package gets built and released, a log of the
unittest-framework should be released on the homepage too, so people
who care could have a look at these before proceeding to download.
Yes, automated tests would be really good. PureUnity is a great start.
One test would be to try to load every object and every lib that is
included with the package.
.hc
¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:30 AM, chris clepper wrote:
On 1/18/06, Piotr Majdak piotr@majdak.com wrote:
- I can't load the sndfile object (the threaded soundfile by g.
Holzmann): load_object: Symbol "libsndfile_setup" not found lib/libsndfile: can't load library No idea why...
The shell object on Windows gives the same 'shell_setup' not found error. I downloaded the whole 54+ MB thing just for that and it doesn't work!
AFAIK, [shell] does not work on Windows.
Who is in charge of QA around here anyway?
You are! ;)
.hc
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It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and
expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on
terrorism."
- retired U.S. Army general,
William Odom
Hallo!
- I can't load the sndfile object (the threaded soundfile by g. Holzmann): load_object: Symbol "libsndfile_setup" not found lib/libsndfile: can't load library No idea why...
LG Georg
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:01 AM, Piotr Majdak wrote:
Hi Hans-Christoph,
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Unless there is something very wrong with this release, this will be
the final release. Then it'll be posted up on SourceForge as
Pd-0.38.4-extended.I tried it, works fine besides some issues:
- The start up libs can't be removed (add a lib once and never remove).
From the preferences? Try deleting the preferecnes file. Which
platform?
- I can't load the sndfile object (the threaded soundfile by g.
Holzmann): load_object: Symbol "libsndfile_setup" not found lib/libsndfile: can't load library No idea why...
- I can't find the iemlib. What should I load instead?
The iemlib objects are compiled as individual objects and are directly
in "extra", so no need to load a lib. Eventually, they should be put
into a libdir, in which case, you'd load "iemlib".
.hc
I tried some libs I usually use, the rest works fine.
br, Peter
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:01 AM, Piotr Majdak wrote:
Hi Hans-Christoph,
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Unless there is something very wrong with this release, this will be the final release. Then it'll be posted up on SourceForge as
Pd-0.38.4-extended.I tried it, works fine besides some issues:
- The start up libs can't be removed (add a lib once and never remove).
From the preferences? Try deleting the preferecnes file. Which
platform?
Windows 2000. I think the settings are saved in the registry and there's no preferences file, isn't it? I know this bug from Miller's 0.39 and it was fixed for 0.39.1 or .2 (not sure about it...)
- I can't load the sndfile object (the threaded soundfile by g.
Holzmann): load_object: Symbol "libsndfile_setup" not found lib/libsndfile: can't load library No idea why...
Georg cleared up the problem - it works for >= 0.39 only
- I can't find the iemlib. What should I load instead?
The iemlib objects are compiled as individual objects and are directly
in "extra", so no need to load a lib.
I see. This requires parsing all patches I use for all objects I use from the iemlib and change my start up files :-( I think you have good reasons to leave the common concept of libraries
mind to include the iemlib as a library in your distributions, additional to the individual objects of iemlib in /extra? (did you really compile them _all_ separately? WOW!). This would give us a kind of backward compatibility and let you include the concept of single objects. The price for this solution would be an about 200kB bigger distro, which I think is affordable. And more work for you, of course :-)
br, Piotr
On Jan 19, 2006, at 5:34 AM, Piotr Majdak wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Jan 18, 2006, at 8:01 AM, Piotr Majdak wrote:
Hi Hans-Christoph,
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
Unless there is something very wrong with this release, this will
be the final release. Then it'll be posted up on SourceForge as
Pd-0.38.4-extended.I tried it, works fine besides some issues:
- The start up libs can't be removed (add a lib once and never
remove).
From the preferences? Try deleting the preferecnes file. Which
platform?Windows 2000. I think the settings are saved in the registry and
there's no preferences file, isn't it? I know this bug from Miller's
0.39 and it was fixed for 0.39.1 or .2 (not sure about it...)
- I can't load the sndfile object (the threaded soundfile by g.
Holzmann): load_object: Symbol "libsndfile_setup" not found lib/libsndfile: can't load library No idea why...
Georg cleared up the problem - it works for >= 0.39 only
- I can't find the iemlib. What should I load instead?
The iemlib objects are compiled as individual objects and are
directly in "extra", so no need to load a lib.I see. This requires parsing all patches I use for all objects I use
from the iemlib and change my start up files :-( I think you have good reasons to leave the common concept of libraries
- loading single objects can be advantagous in some cases. Would you
mind to include the iemlib as a library in your distributions,
additional to the individual objects of iemlib in /extra? (did you
really compile them _all_ separately? WOW!). This would give us a kind
of backward compatibility and let you include the concept of single
objects. The price for this solution would be an about 200kB bigger
distro, which I think is affordable. And more work for you, of course
:-)
The issue of single-file objects vs. multi-file libraries has been
talked about at great length on this list, I am not going to revisit it
now. I am not going to work with multi-file libraries anymore, but
anyone else is welcome to do the work.
In the future, the IEMlib objects will be included as a libdir
(http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Libdir ), like the rest of the
libraries in Pd-extended. But I can't say when that future is just
yet.
.hc
br, Piotr
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Hi!
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
The issue of single-file objects vs. multi-file libraries has been
talked about at great length on this list, I am not going to revisit it
now.
I thought that I have to change my configuration because you use another format to link libraries. But, with the help of Günter, I don't need to change the configuration of my pd start up and I like it very much.
In the future, the IEMlib objects will be included as a libdir
(http://puredata.org/docs/developer/Libdir ), like the rest of the
libraries in Pd-extended. But I can't say when that future is just yet.
Are you sure that it's not included in the installer? I just loaded some iemlib objects without loading the library on start up...
br, Piotr
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006, Piotr Majdak wrote:
The iemlib objects are compiled as individual objects and are directly in "extra", so no need to load a lib.
I see. This requires parsing all patches I use for all objects I use from the iemlib and change my start up files :-(
Hi Piotr,
Have you tried to create the objects from iemlib ? Are some of them failing to load ? The advantage of single externals is that they load on demand without having to load a library first, so iemlib in the installer just works (TM) without changes.
You only have to change your startup file if you want to get rid of the (now useless) error message when trying to load iemlib.
Günter
I think you have good reasons to leave the common concept of libraries
- loading single objects can be advantagous in some cases. Would you
mind to include the iemlib as a library in your distributions, additional to the individual objects of iemlib in /extra? (did you really compile them _all_ separately? WOW!). This would give us a kind of backward compatibility and let you include the concept of single objects. The price for this solution would be an about 200kB bigger distro, which I think is affordable. And more work for you, of course :-)
br, Piotr
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Hi!
geiger wrote:
Have you tried to create the objects from iemlib ? Are some of them failing to load ? The advantage of single externals is that they load on demand without having to load a library first, so iemlib in the installer just works (TM) without changes.
I tried immediately what you proposed and yes, pd loads them on demand. Great! Is this the way external libraries are linked with pd in the future? Just put the dll into /extra and no more restarts? That's really nice...
Is this a special feature of pd-devel or can I use it with Miller's distros, too?
br, Piotr
Piotr Majdak wrote:
Hi!
I tried immediately what you proposed and yes, pd loads them on demand. Great! Is this the way external libraries are linked with pd in the future? Just put the dll into /extra and no more restarts? That's really nice...
well it's the way it used to be in the past...
Is this a special feature of pd-devel or can I use it with Miller's distros, too?
it's in pd since i know it (or since i know that there is an external mechanism for pd); ever used [fiddle~]? (ever had to restart for that?)
the only real new thing (with respect to library loading) in the installer that is not in core-(msp)-pd is the libdir mechanism.
hc just broke multi-object libraries into single-object libraries. thus you feel that you don't load a library but just an object (although technically there is no difference)
mfg.ads.r IOhannes
On Jan 19, 2006, at 12:32 PM, Piotr Majdak wrote:
Hi!
geiger wrote:
Have you tried to create the objects from iemlib ? Are some of them failing to load ? The advantage of single externals is that
they load on demand without having to load a library first, so iemlib in the installer just works (TM) without changes.I tried immediately what you proposed and yes, pd loads them on
demand. Great! Is this the way external libraries are linked with pd
in the future? Just put the dll into /extra and no more restarts?
That's really nice...Is this a special feature of pd-devel or can I use it with Miller's
distros, too?
It'll work with all versions of Pd AFAIK. Pd-extended has the
advantage of including all the objects, so you don't have to download
yourself.
Here's a little synopsis of the library issue as I see it:
libraries, like many DLL formats. There were a lot of problems with
that, mostly revolving around name clashes.
"extra", so there each object would be loaded on demand. from a
single-object/single-file. This made name clashes much easier to deal
with.
idea for a namespace in Pd. This means the single-object/single-files
are organized into "libdirs" which are basically folders full of
single-object/single-files that can be loaded as old-style libraries
(with the libdir patch to Pd-core), or used with a namespace prefix
(i.e. [iemlib/prepend] or [maxlib/scale].
Hope that clears things up, sorry for the snippy response before.
.hc
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Hi!
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
It'll work with all versions of Pd AFAIK. Pd-extended has the
advantage of including all the objects, so you don't have to download
yourself.
Thanks for clarifications. I'm happy to see that I don't have to make different patches for different distros.
Another issue in your distro: in the OSC lib OSCroute provides 20 arguments only. I use patches with more arguments than 20 and thus I changed the sources and let check in the changed version to the CSV (revision 1.6 of OSCroute.c). The version of the OSC you use seems to be an older one. What are the reasons for that?
br, Piotr
On Jan 20, 2006, at 4:46 AM, Piotr Majdak wrote:
Hi!
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
It'll work with all versions of Pd AFAIK. Pd-extended has the
advantage of including all the objects, so you don't have to download
yourself.Thanks for clarifications. I'm happy to see that I don't have to make
different patches for different distros.Another issue in your distro: in the OSC lib OSCroute provides 20
arguments only. I use patches with more arguments than 20 and thus I
changed the sources and let check in the changed version to the CSV
(revision 1.6 of OSCroute.c). The version of the OSC you use seems to
be an older one. What are the reasons for that?
All I know is that I am building the latest version from CVS. Maybe
those changes are in a branch or somewhere else?
.hc
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Hi Hans-Christoph
Thanks again for all the work.
Is anybody else experiencing this on startup? (OS 10.4.3):
/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC7.app/Contents/Resources/
Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-
extended-RC7.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin,
10): Symbol not found: _gluOrtho2D
Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC7.app/Contents/
Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin
Expected in: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.1.dylib
pdp: can't load library
PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP : version 0.12.19
( ydegoyon@free.fr )
pdp_text : severe error : could not load default font : no rendering !!!
Other stuff seems to load fine.
Two other things:
binaries and this computer. Compiling fixes this.
2. I can't find any space in the Path dialog to add my own paths, and
I can't find anything to edit in the .plist file. Am I missing
something?
cheers dafydd
On 18-Jan-06, at 1:28 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
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Unless there is something very wrong with this release, this will
be the final release. Then it'll be posted up on SourceForge as
Pd-0.38.4-extended.http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
Its actually looking pretty good, maybe not even beta anymore ;)
.hc
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Yep, same problems on mac, in a lesser extent with rradical too (some GUI are loading, some other don't) ... On win, pdp and pidip are not loading too and some other libs crash pd (ix and rradical) And, something strange on Mac is that after having loaded pddp, [hid] patches are all messy : they open in a new window and objects are not recognized anymore ... I fighted with the plist for a while with no success. The only reason for this that I found out, is that the .plist in extended package is read only so it causes some trouble after further saving ...
my 2 cent
And THX a lot Hans, cause you made a real good job since last version I tried, I was really looking forward this patchs manager, even if it seems that some files can't be found ...
dafydd hughes a écrit :
Hi Hans-Christoph
Thanks again for all the work.
Is anybody else experiencing this on startup? (OS 10.4.3):
/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC7.app/Contents/Resources/ Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.38.4- extended-RC7.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin,
10): Symbol not found: _gluOrtho2D Referenced from: /Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC7.app/Contents/ Resources/Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin Expected in: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.1.dylibpdp: can't load library PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP : version 0.12.19
( ydegoyon@free.fr )pdp_text : severe error : could not load default font : no rendering !!!
Other stuff seems to load fine.
Two other things:
- pool crashes. However, I've always had this problem with pool
binaries and this computer. Compiling fixes this. 2. I can't find any space in the Path dialog to add my own paths, and
I can't find anything to edit in the .plist file. Am I missing
something?cheers dafydd
On 18-Jan-06, at 1:28 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
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Unless there is something very wrong with this release, this will be the final release. Then it'll be posted up on SourceForge as
Pd-0.38.4-extended.http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
Its actually looking pretty good, maybe not even beta anymore ;)
.hc
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On Jan 18, 2006, at 3:03 PM, dafydd hughes wrote:
Hi Hans-Christoph
Thanks again for all the work.
Is anybody else experiencing this on startup? (OS 10.4.3):
/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC7.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/ ../extra/pdp.pd_darwin:
dlopen(/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC7.app/Contents/Resources/ Scripts/../extra/pdp.pd_darwin, 10): Symbol not found: _gluOrtho2D Referenced from:
/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC7.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/ ../extra/pdp.pd_darwin Expected in: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.1.dylibpdp: can't load library PiDiP : additional video processing objects for PDP : version 0.12.19
( ydegoyon@free.fr )pdp_text : severe error : could not load default font : no rendering
!!!Other stuff seems to load fine.
Two other things:
- pool crashes. However, I've always had this problem with pool
binaries and this computer. Compiling fixes this. 2. I can't find any space in the Path dialog to add my own paths, and
I can't find anything to edit in the .plist file. Am I missing
something?
#2 is definitely a problem. The preferences panels need to be written
to support unlimited "path" and "loadlib" options. Instead of fixed
text fields, there probably should be a scrollable text box where lines
can be added and deleted, and perhaps reordered too.
For now, you can either edit the prefs file/registry, or manage the
libs/paths yourself, and delete the default one.
.hc
cheers dafydd
On 18-Jan-06, at 1:28 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
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the final release. Then it'll be posted up on SourceForge as
Pd-0.38.4-extended.http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
Its actually looking pretty good, maybe not even beta anymore ;)
.hc
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Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
- I can't find any space in the Path dialog to add my own paths, and
I can't find anything to edit in the .plist file. Am I missing
something?#2 is definitely a problem. The preferences panels need to be written
to support unlimited "path" and "loadlib" options. Instead of fixed
text fields, there probably should be a scrollable text box where lines
can be added and deleted, and perhaps reordered too.
yes that might be nice. however, as a workaround, i suggest that the pd-extended installed uses as little path-lines (and lib-lines) as possible. i am pretty sure, that you can cram multiple libs into one line with the ":" delimiter, analogous to the command line "pd -lib iemlib1:iemlib2:iem_t3_lib:iem_mp3" loads 4 libs. so pd-extended would only eat 1 lib-line and 1 path-line
mf.asdr IOhannes
On Jan 20, 2006, at 4:52 PM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
- I can't find any space in the Path dialog to add my own paths,
and I can't find anything to edit in the .plist file. Am I missing
something?#2 is definitely a problem. The preferences panels need to be
written to support unlimited "path" and "loadlib" options. Instead
of fixed text fields, there probably should be a scrollable text box
where lines can be added and deleted, and perhaps reordered too.yes that might be nice. however, as a workaround, i suggest that the pd-extended installed
uses as little path-lines (and lib-lines) as possible. i am pretty sure, that you can cram multiple libs into one line with
the ":" delimiter, analogous to the command line "pd -lib iemlib1:iemlib2:iem_t3_lib:iem_mp3" loads 4 libs. so pd-extended would only eat 1 lib-line and 1 path-line
That format does work in the pref file, but it turns out that Pd parses
it before putting it into the preference panel. So even tho the pref
file reads iemlib1:iemlib2:iem_t3_lib:iem_mp3, the preference panel
still looks like:
iemlib1 iemlib2 iem_t3_lib iem_mp3
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Hey
On 20-Jan-06, at 2:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
- I can't find any space in the Path dialog to add my own paths,
and I can't find anything to edit in the .plist file. Am I
missing something?#2 is definitely a problem. The preferences panels need to be
written to support unlimited "path" and "loadlib" options. Instead
of fixed text fields, there probably should be a scrollable text
box where lines can be added and deleted, and perhaps reordered too.For now, you can either edit the prefs file/registry, or manage the
libs/paths yourself, and delete the default one..hc
Here's the odd thing - I can't find any path entries in your .plist
file to edit. For now I'm fine with replacing entries for libs that
I don't use.
Thanks
cheers dafydd
On Jan 20, 2006, at 5:40 PM, dafydd hughes wrote:
Hey
On 20-Jan-06, at 2:00 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
- I can't find any space in the Path dialog to add my own paths,
and I can't find anything to edit in the .plist file. Am I missing
something?#2 is definitely a problem. The preferences panels need to be
written to support unlimited "path" and "loadlib" options. Instead
of fixed text fields, there probably should be a scrollable text box
where lines can be added and deleted, and perhaps reordered too.For now, you can either edit the prefs file/registry, or manage the
libs/paths yourself, and delete the default one..hc
Here's the odd thing - I can't find any path entries in your .plist
file to edit. For now I'm fine with replacing entries for libs that I
don't use.
That's because the libdir support is currently a quick hack. It just
checks a directory for a .pd file of the same name, if it find that, it
adds that dir to the path and the helppath. So all those path entries
are dynamically generated from the loadlib entries that refer to
libdirs.
Yes, its a hack and should be replaced, but it works for now.
.hc
Thanks
cheers dafydd
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On 20-Jan-06, at 11:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
That's because the libdir support is currently a quick hack. It
just checks a directory for a .pd file of the same name, if it find
that, it adds that dir to the path and the helppath. So all those
path entries are dynamically generated from the loadlib entries
that refer to libdirs.Yes, its a hack and should be replaced, but it works for now.
I'm not sure this sounds like a "quick hack" to me - could be a kinda
neat system. Anyhow, I'm not sure I understand what's written
above. Can I use this system to add my own externals folder to the
list?
cheers dafydd
Nothing. Please ignore previous post. I'm a bonehead. I just had
to _add_ the entry to the plist. I was looking for something to
edit. Why was i looking for something to edit?
Thanks for all the work, hc.
cheers dafydd
On 21-Jan-06, at 10:08 AM, dafydd hughes wrote:
On 20-Jan-06, at 11:02 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
That's because the libdir support is currently a quick hack. It
just checks a directory for a .pd file of the same name, if it
find that, it adds that dir to the path and the helppath. So all
those path entries are dynamically generated from the loadlib
entries that refer to libdirs.Yes, its a hack and should be replaced, but it works for now.
I'm not sure this sounds like a "quick hack" to me - could be a
kinda neat system. Anyhow, I'm not sure I understand what's
written above. Can I use this system to add my own externals
folder to the list?cheers dafydd
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Ubuntu Breezy:
I couldn't get GEM to work. I also couldn't find any sound output drivers besides OSS.
it looks to me like the GEM library is missing and Pd wasn't compiled with JACK or ALSA support...but maybe I'm missing something...
-John
Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
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Unless there is something very wrong with this release, this will be
the final release. Then it'll be posted up on SourceForge as
Pd-0.38.4-extended.http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html
Its actually looking pretty good, maybe not even beta anymore ;)
.hc