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So, this seems to be a thing: Something i'm doing in this patch/system of patches I've been working on for the last year or so keeps making the canvas switch into edit mode automatically, including right when I open it up in which case the window gives no indication of actually being in edit mode--I had to go turn it on in the edit menu first because it's not reporting being in edit mode there either, before I can turn it off. It's possible that I could have been able to toggle it off from the keyboard menu, I didn't really think to try because I was confused as to what was happening as I couldn't see any indication that edit mode was on, yet I kept resizing/breaking gop and data structure canvases whenever I'd click on anything. My patch is way too big and confusing to share, but it seems to be somehow related to messages sent from various subpatches/abstractions when whatever task is being performed inside is completed. I don't have the time to try to figure anything out right now, and my attempts to do so in the last hour or so kept on getting foiled by PD crashing periodically. That could be related to externals I'm using or something, maybe, but the automatic switching into edit mode seemed to be originating from something more Vanilla. To avoid any further outbursts directed against the mouse or keyboard, I've switched back to 0.48-2 and things are working normally again, but if need be I could try to pinpoint the source of the issues some more--preferably with some sort of hint as to what I should be looking for--when I get back home later today.
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 1:24 AM Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
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hi.
thanks for the bug-report.
unfortunately it indeed doesn't contain much information about what could be the actual problem you are experiencing.
things i could establish:
(i hope this is correct).
so:
how do you know that you are in edit-mode? what are the clues that make you believe that you end up in edit mode; what are the clues that are missing (so you don't immediately realize you are in edit mode)?
what are these ominous "messages" being sent from abstractions/subpatches? in Pd you are always sending messages between objects; so there must be something special to yours. e.g. do they do some weirdo dynamic patching things?
what externals are you using? do these externals interact with the GUI? are there any GUI-plugins involved?
ghs,dr IOhannes
Well I know that the canvas is in edit mode as anytime I try to click anything I end up grabbing something and resizing it instead, and toggling edit mode on and off in the edit menu makes it behave as expected. The thing with having no indication of currently being in edit mode was only happening when I would first open the patch, and as mentioned I could tell that it was in fact on because whenever I would try to click on anything in the PD window with the mouse the cursor would instead select or start resizing whatever was beneath it. Thinking about it now I figure it must have something to do with donecanvasdialog, would that make sense? I'm not using any gui plugins and no externals are interacting with the gui, but I am using a number of structs. I'll check that in a couple of hours when I'm back at home.
On Sep 11, 2018 9:11 AM, "IOhannes m zmoelnig" zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
hi.
thanks for the bug-report.
unfortunately it indeed doesn't contain much information about what could be the actual problem you are experiencing.
things i could establish:
- your patches switch to edit-mode when they shouldn't
- there is no indication of being in edit-mode
- you accidentally resize GOPs
- abstractions/subpatches send "messages"
- you are using a number of externals
- Pd sometimes crashes
- the problem appears under Pd-0.49-0test1
- everything works with Pd-0.48-2
(i hope this is correct).
so:
how do you know that you are in edit-mode? what are the clues that make you believe that you end up in edit mode; what are the clues that are missing (so you don't immediately realize you are in edit mode)?
what are these ominous "messages" being sent from abstractions/subpatches? in Pd you are always sending messages between objects; so there must be something special to yours. e.g. do they do some weirdo dynamic patching things?
what externals are you using? do these externals interact with the GUI? are there any GUI-plugins involved?
ghs,dr IOhannes
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Okay I can can confirm that using donecanvasdialog is triggering the edit mode thing, though I'm not sure why there is no indication from pd upon loading a patch on startup that it is, in fact, in edit mode. I tried some patches made by other people, such as waveform.mmb or whatever it is called, and a couple of others and they all toggled edit mode on the parent patch. They also all cause pd to crash when the parent patch is closed. I didn't get any hints from the terminal but the script I usually use to start pd wasn't working for some reason and I have to head out again for an hour or two but I'll look into it more when I get back.
On Sep 11, 2018 6:01 PM, "JTG III" jordanthomasgibbonsiii@gmail.com wrote:
Well I know that the canvas is in edit mode as anytime I try to click anything I end up grabbing something and resizing it instead, and toggling edit mode on and off in the edit menu makes it behave as expected. The thing with having no indication of currently being in edit mode was only happening when I would first open the patch, and as mentioned I could tell that it was in fact on because whenever I would try to click on anything in the PD window with the mouse the cursor would instead select or start resizing whatever was beneath it. Thinking about it now I figure it must have something to do with donecanvasdialog, would that make sense? I'm not using any gui plugins and no externals are interacting with the gui, but I am using a number of structs. I'll check that in a couple of hours when I'm back at home.
On Sep 11, 2018 9:11 AM, "IOhannes m zmoelnig" zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
hi.
thanks for the bug-report.
unfortunately it indeed doesn't contain much information about what could be the actual problem you are experiencing.
things i could establish:
- your patches switch to edit-mode when they shouldn't
- there is no indication of being in edit-mode
- you accidentally resize GOPs
- abstractions/subpatches send "messages"
- you are using a number of externals
- Pd sometimes crashes
- the problem appears under Pd-0.49-0test1
- everything works with Pd-0.48-2
(i hope this is correct).
so:
how do you know that you are in edit-mode? what are the clues that make you believe that you end up in edit mode; what are the clues that are missing (so you don't immediately realize you are in edit mode)?
what are these ominous "messages" being sent from abstractions/subpatches? in Pd you are always sending messages between objects; so there must be something special to yours. e.g. do they do some weirdo dynamic patching things?
what externals are you using? do these externals interact with the GUI? are there any GUI-plugins involved?
ghs,dr IOhannes
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I bet this is related to the "save as" crash bug. Are you on Mac OSX? And... am I reading this correctly that you (1) open any patch; (2) open the "properties" dialog for the canvas; (3) hit "OK" on the dialog, and then you find out that the patch went into edit mode?
(And that it then crashes Pd to close the patch?)
thanks Miller
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 07:08:30PM -0400, JTG III wrote:
Okay I can can confirm that using donecanvasdialog is triggering the edit mode thing, though I'm not sure why there is no indication from pd upon loading a patch on startup that it is, in fact, in edit mode. I tried some patches made by other people, such as waveform.mmb or whatever it is called, and a couple of others and they all toggled edit mode on the parent patch. They also all cause pd to crash when the parent patch is closed. I didn't get any hints from the terminal but the script I usually use to start pd wasn't working for some reason and I have to head out again for an hour or two but I'll look into it more when I get back.
On Sep 11, 2018 6:01 PM, "JTG III" jordanthomasgibbonsiii@gmail.com wrote:
Well I know that the canvas is in edit mode as anytime I try to click anything I end up grabbing something and resizing it instead, and toggling edit mode on and off in the edit menu makes it behave as expected. The thing with having no indication of currently being in edit mode was only happening when I would first open the patch, and as mentioned I could tell that it was in fact on because whenever I would try to click on anything in the PD window with the mouse the cursor would instead select or start resizing whatever was beneath it. Thinking about it now I figure it must have something to do with donecanvasdialog, would that make sense? I'm not using any gui plugins and no externals are interacting with the gui, but I am using a number of structs. I'll check that in a couple of hours when I'm back at home.
On Sep 11, 2018 9:11 AM, "IOhannes m zmoelnig" zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
hi.
thanks for the bug-report.
unfortunately it indeed doesn't contain much information about what could be the actual problem you are experiencing.
things i could establish:
- your patches switch to edit-mode when they shouldn't
- there is no indication of being in edit-mode
- you accidentally resize GOPs
- abstractions/subpatches send "messages"
- you are using a number of externals
- Pd sometimes crashes
- the problem appears under Pd-0.49-0test1
- everything works with Pd-0.48-2
(i hope this is correct).
so:
how do you know that you are in edit-mode? what are the clues that make you believe that you end up in edit mode; what are the clues that are missing (so you don't immediately realize you are in edit mode)?
what are these ominous "messages" being sent from abstractions/subpatches? in Pd you are always sending messages between objects; so there must be something special to yours. e.g. do they do some weirdo dynamic patching things?
what externals are you using? do these externals interact with the GUI? are there any GUI-plugins involved?
ghs,dr IOhannes
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I am on Mac, yes, sorry I forgot to mention that. For me the problem is happening whenever a donecanvasdialog message is sent to a canvas, so I'd imagine that is triggering the same thing as the properties menu would? Also, if the donecanvasdialog message happens in an abstraction, it puts whatever patch the abstraction was created in into edit mode, and this seems to be where it's going into edit mode sort of silently, as in, it doesn't say [edit] at the top of the screen and there's no checkmark next to edit mode in the edit menu, but if you try to click anywhere inside the patch its obviously in edit mode as you are able to select/resize/etc. items in the patch but aren't able to click on a bang, for example, or anything else--but I've only been able to reliably reproduce this when first opening a patch that sends a donecanvasdialog message upon opening. It's happened occasionally after the patch has been opened, but usually the top of the pd window will indicate [edit] at least when a donecanvasdialog message is sent. The crash upon closing the patch happens every time, though. I realize that the donecanvasdialog thing is an unsupported method or whatever, but it seems like the crashing might be part of a more general problem somewhere, maybe?
I've just tested 0.49-0test2-i386 just now and the crash and everything preceding it is still happening. I've attached a patch demonstrating how the problem is being triggered for me, if maybe someone with a mac wants to check it out to confirm. It should open in edit mode without the [edit] message appearing in the title bar or whatever its called or the edit mode option in the edit dropdown menu being checked, and then make the patch go into edit mode again each time the donecanvasdialog message is sent, and finally it should crash pd when the window is closed.
ps - I seem to have mostly gotten around the issue by using coords instead of donecanvasdialog, which I normally do anyway, however it seems the crash is happening regardless, but I'm not completely sure that I didn't miss anything so please take that as a very tentative statement. It might just be too early yet for my brain to have come online.
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 9:13 PM Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
I bet this is related to the "save as" crash bug. Are you on Mac OSX? And... am I reading this correctly that you (1) open any patch; (2) open the "properties" dialog for the canvas; (3) hit "OK" on the dialog, and then you find out that the patch went into edit mode?
(And that it then crashes Pd to close the patch?)
thanks Miller
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 07:08:30PM -0400, JTG III wrote:
Okay I can can confirm that using donecanvasdialog is triggering the edit mode thing, though I'm not sure why there is no indication from pd upon loading a patch on startup that it is, in fact, in edit mode. I tried
some
patches made by other people, such as waveform.mmb or whatever it is called, and a couple of others and they all toggled edit mode on the
parent
patch. They also all cause pd to crash when the parent patch is closed. I didn't get any hints from the terminal but the script I usually use to start pd wasn't working for some reason and I have to head out again for an hour
or
two but I'll look into it more when I get back.
On Sep 11, 2018 6:01 PM, "JTG III" jordanthomasgibbonsiii@gmail.com
wrote:
Well I know that the canvas is in edit mode as anytime I try to click anything I end up grabbing something and resizing it instead, and
toggling
edit mode on and off in the edit menu makes it behave as expected. The thing with having no indication of currently being in edit mode was
only
happening when I would first open the patch, and as mentioned I could
tell
that it was in fact on because whenever I would try to click on
anything in
the PD window with the mouse the cursor would instead select or start resizing whatever was beneath it. Thinking about it now I figure it must have something to do with donecanvasdialog, would that make sense? I'm not using any gui plugins
and
no externals are interacting with the gui, but I am using a number of structs. I'll check that in a couple of hours when I'm back at home.
On Sep 11, 2018 9:11 AM, "IOhannes m zmoelnig" zmoelnig@iem.at
wrote:
hi.
thanks for the bug-report.
unfortunately it indeed doesn't contain much information about what could be the actual problem you are experiencing.
things i could establish:
- your patches switch to edit-mode when they shouldn't
- there is no indication of being in edit-mode
- you accidentally resize GOPs
- abstractions/subpatches send "messages"
- you are using a number of externals
- Pd sometimes crashes
- the problem appears under Pd-0.49-0test1
- everything works with Pd-0.48-2
(i hope this is correct).
so:
how do you know that you are in edit-mode? what are the clues that
make
you believe that you end up in edit mode; what are the clues that are missing (so you don't immediately realize you are in edit mode)?
what are these ominous "messages" being sent from
abstractions/subpatches?
in Pd you are always sending messages between objects; so there must
be
something special to yours. e.g. do they do some weirdo dynamic
patching
things?
what externals are you using? do these externals interact with the
GUI?
are there any GUI-plugins involved?
ghs,dr IOhannes
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I couldn't exactly reproduce your problem but I found a crasher bug with [donecanvasdialog( myself and this might be related: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/467 Christof
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2018 um 13:14 Uhr Von: "JTG III" jordanthomasgibbonsiii@gmail.com An: msp@ucsd.edu Cc: pd-list@lists.iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] bug with edit-mode (was Re: [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released)
I am on Mac, yes, sorry I forgot to mention that. For me the problem is happening whenever a donecanvasdialog message is sent to a canvas, so I'd imagine that is triggering the same thing as the properties menu would? Also, if the donecanvasdialog message happens in an abstraction, it puts whatever patch the abstraction was created in into edit mode, and this seems to be where it's going into edit mode sort of silently, as in, it doesn't say [edit] at the top of the screen and there's no checkmark next to edit mode in the edit menu, but if you try to click anywhere inside the patch its obviously in edit mode as you are able to select/resize/etc. items in the patch but aren't able to click on a bang, for example, or anything else--but I've only been able to reliably reproduce this when first opening a patch that sends a donecanvasdialog message upon opening. It's happened occasionally after the patch has been opened, but usually the top of the pd window will indicate [edit] at least when a donecanvasdialog message is sent. The crash upon closing the patch happens every time, though. I realize that the donecanvasdialog thing is an unsupported method or whatever, but it seems like the crashing might be part of a more general problem somewhere, maybe? I've just tested 0.49-0test2-i386 just now and the crash and everything preceding it is still happening. I've attached a patch demonstrating how the problem is being triggered for me, if maybe someone with a mac wants to check it out to confirm. It should open in edit mode without the [edit] message appearing in the title bar or whatever its called or the edit mode option in the edit dropdown menu being checked, and then make the patch go into edit mode again each time the donecanvasdialog message is sent, and finally it should crash pd when the window is closed. ps - I seem to have mostly gotten around the issue by using coords instead of donecanvasdialog, which I normally do anyway, however it seems the crash is happening regardless, but I'm not completely sure that I didn't miss anything so please take that as a very tentative statement. It might just be too early yet for my brain to have come online.
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 9:13 PM Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu[mailto:msp@ucsd.edu]> wrote:I bet this is related to the "save as" crash bug. Are you on Mac OSX? And... am I reading this correctly that you (1) open any patch; (2) open the "properties" dialog for the canvas; (3) hit "OK" on the dialog, and then you find out that the patch went into edit mode?
(And that it then crashes Pd to close the patch?)
thanks Miller
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 07:08:30PM -0400, JTG III wrote:
Okay I can can confirm that using donecanvasdialog is triggering the edit mode thing, though I'm not sure why there is no indication from pd upon loading a patch on startup that it is, in fact, in edit mode. I tried some patches made by other people, such as waveform.mmb or whatever it is called, and a couple of others and they all toggled edit mode on the parent patch. They also all cause pd to crash when the parent patch is closed. I didn't get any hints from the terminal but the script I usually use to start pd wasn't working for some reason and I have to head out again for an hour or two but I'll look into it more when I get back.
On Sep 11, 2018 6:01 PM, "JTG III" <jordanthomasgibbonsiii@gmail.com[mailto:jordanthomasgibbonsiii@gmail.com]> wrote:
Well I know that the canvas is in edit mode as anytime I try to click anything I end up grabbing something and resizing it instead, and toggling edit mode on and off in the edit menu makes it behave as expected. The thing with having no indication of currently being in edit mode was only happening when I would first open the patch, and as mentioned I could tell that it was in fact on because whenever I would try to click on anything in the PD window with the mouse the cursor would instead select or start resizing whatever was beneath it. Thinking about it now I figure it must have something to do with donecanvasdialog, would that make sense? I'm not using any gui plugins and no externals are interacting with the gui, but I am using a number of structs. I'll check that in a couple of hours when I'm back at home.
On Sep 11, 2018 9:11 AM, "IOhannes m zmoelnig" <zmoelnig@iem.at[mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at]> wrote:
hi.
thanks for the bug-report.
unfortunately it indeed doesn't contain much information about what could be the actual problem you are experiencing.
things i could establish:
- your patches switch to edit-mode when they shouldn't
- there is no indication of being in edit-mode
- you accidentally resize GOPs
- abstractions/subpatches send "messages"
- you are using a number of externals
- Pd sometimes crashes
- the problem appears under Pd-0.49-0test1
- everything works with Pd-0.48-2
(i hope this is correct).
so:
how do you know that you are in edit-mode? what are the clues that make you believe that you end up in edit mode; what are the clues that are missing (so you don't immediately realize you are in edit mode)?
what are these ominous "messages" being sent from abstractions/subpatches? in Pd you are always sending messages between objects; so there must be something special to yours. e.g. do they do some weirdo dynamic patching things?
what externals are you using? do these externals interact with the GUI? are there any GUI-plugins involved?
ghs,dr IOhannes
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I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions.
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail. ________________________________ From: Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23 To: pd-announce@iem.at Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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Liam, you can read about all the new commands here
https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre liamg_uw@hotmail.com escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions.
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
- I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It
seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed? 2. Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print *[; ; $ $ , ,(* I get "*; \; $ $ \, \,*". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.
Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
*From:* Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu *Sent:* 11 September 2018 06:23 *To:* pd-announce@iem.at *Subject:* [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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hello, one question i always forget to ask:
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu abreubacelar@gmail.com escreveu:
Liam, you can read about all the new commands here
And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after)
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre liamg_uw@hotmail.com escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions.
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
- I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It
seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed? 2. Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print *[; ; $ $ , ,(* I get "*; \; $ $ \, \,*". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.
Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
*From:* Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu *Sent:* 11 September 2018 06:23 *To:* pd-announce@iem.at *Subject:* [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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On 9/11/18 5:53 PM, José de Abreu wrote:
hello, one question i always forget to ask:
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
the shortcut was changed because:
I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
anyone else?
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu abreubacelar@gmail.com escreveu:
hello, one question i always forget to ask:
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu abreubacelar@gmail.com escreveu:
Liam, you can read about all the new commands here
And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after)
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre liamg_uw@hotmail.com escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions.
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
- I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It
seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed? 2. Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print *[; ; $ $ , ,(* I get "*; \; $ $ \, \,*". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.
Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
*From:* Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu *Sent:* 11 September 2018 06:23 *To:* pd-announce@iem.at *Subject:* [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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that was me... this fixed a problem with portaudio on Windows but might have caused a regression on OSX. let's move the discussion to the issue. in the worst case, I have to #ifdef the whole fix to only apply it to Windows.
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" porres@gmail.com An: "pd-lista puredata" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443 anyone else?
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:
hello, one question i always forget to ask: Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48? it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you can read about all the new commands here https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-da...] And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after)
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre <liamg_uw@hotmail.com[mailto:liamg_uw@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions. Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
From: Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at[mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at]> on behalf of Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu[mailto:msp@ucsd.edu]> Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23 To: pd-announce@iem.at[mailto:pd-announce@iem.at] Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm%5Bhttp://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm] or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-data/pure-d...]
cheers Miller
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Hi Lucas,
since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX.
Christof
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" porres@gmail.com An: "pd-lista puredata" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443 anyone else?
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:
hello, one question i always forget to ask: Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48? it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you can read about all the new commands here https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-da...] And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after)
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre <liamg_uw@hotmail.com[mailto:liamg_uw@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions. Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
From: Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at[mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at]> on behalf of Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu[mailto:msp@ucsd.edu]> Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23 To: pd-announce@iem.at[mailto:pd-announce@iem.at] Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm%5Bhttp://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm] or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-data/pure-d...]
cheers Miller
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Hi Christof,
I think is an OSX issue. Here everything is right on MMIO or ASIO.
NOTE: I'm only using the 64bit Pd. Both distributions on Miller's site are 64bit. (I also checked the http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/ list of files)
--
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On 9/11/2018 1:57 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
Hi Lucas,
since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX.
Christof
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" porres@gmail.com An: "pd-lista puredata" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
anyone else?
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:
hello, one question i always forget to ask:
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you can read about all the new commands here https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-da...]
And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after)
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre <liamg_uw@hotmail.com[mailto:liamg_uw@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions.
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print [; ; $ $ , ,( I get "; \; $ $ \, \,". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
From: Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at[mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at]> on behalf of Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu[mailto:msp@ucsd.edu]> Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23 To: pd-announce@iem.at[mailto:pd-announce@iem.at] Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm%5Bhttp://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm] or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-data/pure-d...]
cheers Miller
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thanks for testing! seems like it works fine on Windows. BTW, one big fix I made is that if the audio device gets disconnected (for whatever reason), Pd will not hang but instead try to reconnect and if that fails, close the device gracefully and post an error. if you feel like, you can try it out:
a) just unplug the USB cable and quickly (within about a second) plug it back in: Pd should automatically reconnect. b) if you leave it unplugged for a bit longer, Pd will print an error. now plug the cable back in and toggle DSP off/on: the device should be connected again.
Christof
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 21:04 Uhr Von: "Lucas Cordiviola" lucarda27@hotmail.com An: "Christof Ressi" christof.ressi@gmx.at Cc: "pd-lista puredata" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
Hi Christof,
I think is an OSX issue. Here everything is right on MMIO or ASIO.
NOTE: I'm only using the 64bit Pd. Both distributions on Miller's site are 64bit. (I also checked the http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/ list of files)
--
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
On 9/11/2018 1:57 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
Hi Lucas,
since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX.
Christof
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" porres@gmail.com An: "pd-lista puredata" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
anyone else?
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:
hello, one question i always forget to ask:
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you can read about all the new commands here https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-da...]
And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after)
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre <liamg_uw@hotmail.com[mailto:liamg_uw@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions.
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print [; ; $ $ , ,( I get "; \; $ $ \, \,". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
From: Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at[mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at]> on behalf of Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu[mailto:msp@ucsd.edu]> Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23 To: pd-announce@iem.at[mailto:pd-announce@iem.at] Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm%5Bhttp://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm] or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-data/pure-d...]
cheers Miller
Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-announce@lists.iem.at] https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list%5Bhttps://lists.puredata.info/l... Pd-list@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list%5Bhttps://lists.puredata.info/l... Pd-list@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list%5Bhttps://lists.puredata.info/l... Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list%5Bhttps://lists.puredata.info/l...]
Cool, is working.
a) and b) are happening as you describe them with an Tascam US-4x4 with ASIO.
:)
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
On 9/11/2018 4:12 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
thanks for testing! seems like it works fine on Windows. BTW, one big fix I made is that if the audio device gets disconnected (for whatever reason), Pd will not hang but instead try to reconnect and if that fails, close the device gracefully and post an error. if you feel like, you can try it out:
a) just unplug the USB cable and quickly (within about a second) plug it back in: Pd should automatically reconnect. b) if you leave it unplugged for a bit longer, Pd will print an error. now plug the cable back in and toggle DSP off/on: the device should be connected again.
Christof
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 21:04 Uhr Von: "Lucas Cordiviola" lucarda27@hotmail.com An: "Christof Ressi" christof.ressi@gmx.at Cc: "pd-lista puredata" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
Hi Christof,
I think is an OSX issue. Here everything is right on MMIO or ASIO.
NOTE: I'm only using the 64bit Pd. Both distributions on Miller's site are 64bit. (I also checked the http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/ list of files)
--
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
On 9/11/2018 1:57 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
Hi Lucas,
since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX.
Christof
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" porres@gmail.com An: "pd-lista puredata" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
anyone else?
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:
hello, one question i always forget to ask:
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you can read about all the new commands here https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-da...]
And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after)
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre <liamg_uw@hotmail.com[mailto:liamg_uw@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions.
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print [; ; $ $ , ,( I get "; \; $ $ \, \,". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
From: Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at[mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at]> on behalf of Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu[mailto:msp@ucsd.edu]> Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23 To: pd-announce@iem.at[mailto:pd-announce@iem.at] Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm%5Bhttp://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm] or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-data/pure-d...]
cheers Miller
Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-announce@lists.iem.at] https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list%5Bhttps://lists.puredata.info/l... Pd-list@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list%5Bhttps://lists.puredata.info/l... Pd-list@lists.iem.at[mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at] mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list%5Bhttps://lists.puredata.info/l... Pd-list@lists.iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list%5Bhttps://lists.puredata.info/l...]
*sigh of relief*
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 21:21 Uhr Von: "Lucas Cordiviola" lucarda27@hotmail.com An: "Christof Ressi" christof.ressi@gmx.at Cc: "pd-lista puredata" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
Cool, is working.
a) and b) are happening as you describe them with an Tascam US-4x4 with ASIO.
:)
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
On 9/11/2018 4:12 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
thanks for testing! seems like it works fine on Windows. BTW, one big fix I made is that if the audio device gets disconnected (for whatever reason), Pd will not hang but instead try to reconnect and if that fails, close the device gracefully and post an error. if you feel like, you can try it out:
a) just unplug the USB cable and quickly (within about a second) plug it back in: Pd should automatically reconnect. b) if you leave it unplugged for a bit longer, Pd will print an error. now plug the cable back in and toggle DSP off/on: the device should be connected again.
Christof
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 21:04 Uhr Von: "Lucas Cordiviola" lucarda27@hotmail.com An: "Christof Ressi" christof.ressi@gmx.at Cc: "pd-lista puredata" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: Aw: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
Hi Christof,
I think is an OSX issue. Here everything is right on MMIO or ASIO.
NOTE: I'm only using the 64bit Pd. Both distributions on Miller's site are 64bit. (I also checked the http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/ list of files)
--
Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas.
On 9/11/2018 1:57 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
Hi Lucas,
since you're on Windows, can you check that ASIO works for you in PD 0.49-0test1? just to be sure it's only an issue on OSX.
Christof
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 18:38 Uhr Von: "Alexandre Torres Porres" porres@gmail.com An: "pd-lista puredata" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
anyone else?
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:
hello, one question i always forget to ask:
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you can read about all the new commands here https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-da...]
And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after)
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre <liamg_uw@hotmail.com[mailto:liamg_uw@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions.
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed?Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print [; ; $ $ , ,( I get "; \; $ $ \, \,". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
From: Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at[mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at]> on behalf of Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu[mailto:msp@ucsd.edu]> Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23 To: pd-announce@iem.at[mailto:pd-announce@iem.at] Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm%5Bhttp://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm] or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-data/pure-d...]
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On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:40 PM Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
anyone else?
On Win7 with internal sound card, ASIO test tone 440Hz sounds all wrong, sort of like a slowly rotating farting dinosaur. MMIO works fine.
Martin.
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu abreubacelar@gmail.com escreveu:
hello, one question i always forget to ask:
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu abreubacelar@gmail.com escreveu:
Liam, you can read about all the new commands here
And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after)
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre liamg_uw@hotmail.com escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions.
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
- I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It
seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed? 2. Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print *[; ; $ $ , ,(* I get "*; \; $ $ \, \,*". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.
Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
*From:* Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu *Sent:* 11 September 2018 06:23 *To:* pd-announce@iem.at *Subject:* [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
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Amazing, I want to hear that now.
On 11.09.2018 19:06, Martin Peach wrote:
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:40 PM Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com mailto:porres@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443 anyone else?
On Win7 with internal sound card, ASIO test tone 440Hz sounds all wrong, sort of like a slowly rotating farting dinosaur. MMIO works fine.
Martin.
slowly rotating farting dinosaur
sound great! please send a recording!
Antoine Rousseau http://www.metalu.net http://metalu.net __ http://www.metaluachahuter.com/ http://www.metaluachahuter.com/compagnies/al1-ant1/
Le mar. 11 sept. 2018 à 19:06, Martin Peach chakekatzil@gmail.com a écrit :
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:40 PM Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443
anyone else?
On Win7 with internal sound card, ASIO test tone 440Hz sounds all wrong, sort of like a slowly rotating farting dinosaur. MMIO works fine.
Martin.
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu abreubacelar@gmail.com escreveu:
hello, one question i always forget to ask:
Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48?
it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j
(btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu < abreubacelar@gmail.com> escreveu:
Liam, you can read about all the new commands here
And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after)
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre liamg_uw@hotmail.com escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions.
Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
- I'm getting a lot of "zexy: already loaded" error messages. It
seems that they come every time you load a new abstraction with [declare -lib zexy] in it. Is this a bug, or has the expected usage of [declare] changed? 2. Are the backslashes working as intended? If I print *[; ; $ $ , ,(* I get "*; \; $ $ \, \,*". I'm not sure what the exact usage is supposed to be, but this output seems confusing.
Also, is there a guide to the new intelligent patching features? I've seen the videos, but would like to be able to study it in more detail.
*From:* Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at on behalf of Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu *Sent:* 11 September 2018 06:23 *To:* pd-announce@iem.at *Subject:* [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
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On Win7 with internal sound card, ASIO test tone 440Hz sounds all wrong
wait... which ASIO driver are you using? if you use ASIO (portaudio) without an actual ASIO driver (or a fake driver like ASIO4ALL) the slowly rotating farting dinosaur is expected behaviour :-) (I just listened to the sound and would have never come up with such a marvelous description).
just for the record: Lucas and Henri told me, sound is working fine for them, so I think at least I didn't introduce a regression on Windows.
Christof
Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. September 2018 um 19:06 Uhr Von: "Martin Peach" chakekatzil@gmail.com An: "Alexandre Torres Porres" porres@gmail.com Cc: "PD List send" pd-list@iem.at Betreff: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 12:40 PM Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com[mailto:porres@gmail.com]> wrote:
I'm having issues with the test version: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/443%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-...] anyone else? On Win7 with internal sound card, ASIO test tone 440Hz sounds all wrong, sort of like a slowly rotating farting dinosaur. MMIO works fine. Martin.
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:55, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:
hello, one question i always forget to ask: Why the shortcut to create horizontal slider changed from 0.47 to 0.48? it was shift+ctrl+h and changed to shift+ctrl+j (btw, i'm on linux, ubuntu studio, if it is needed)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 12:14, José de Abreu <abreubacelar@gmail.com[mailto:abreubacelar@gmail.com]> escreveu:Liam, you can read about all the new commands here https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/374%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-da...] And triggerize isn't "documented" in there, you can use it with ctrl+t in an object that has fanouts (and then if you need you can use swap connections to organize all the cords after)
Em Ter, 11 de set de 2018 11:35, Liam Goodacre <liamg_uw@hotmail.com[mailto:liamg_uw@hotmail.com]> escreveu:
I'm thrilled about some of these updates! Infinite undoing, [savestate] and backslashes are really great additions. Here are a couple of notes from my first half-hour playing around with it.
From: Pd-list <pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at[mailto:pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at]> on behalf of Miller Puckette <msp@ucsd.edu[mailto:msp@ucsd.edu]> Sent: 11 September 2018 06:23 To: pd-announce@iem.at[mailto:pd-announce@iem.at] Subject: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm%5Bhttp://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm] or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data%5Bhttps://github.com/pure-data/pure-d...]
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awesome, we got like what, 2 weeks until a final version? :)
Em ter, 11 de set de 2018 às 02:24, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu escreveu:
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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Hi!
I've been testing the intelligent patching features on Win7 and everything is working! It's one of those stuff that can really make you a happier programmer.
Just some comments on stuff:
I think this release is big. With all of those new features i don't think I'm ever sleeping again.
Henri.
[1] https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/80b3891537bb3e30e18228afb54858c6...
De: Pd-list pd-list-bounces@lists.iem.at em nome de Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu Enviado: terça-feira, 11 de setembro de 2018 02:23 Para: pd-announce@iem.at Assunto: [PD] [PD-announce] PD 0.49-0test1 released
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
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Hi Miller,
Both Windows distributions of 0.49-0test1 on your site are 64-bit.
Is not an html link mistake. I also cheked the files listed on http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/
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On 9/11/2018 2:23 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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Does that mean Wish86.exe was 64-bit? I think pd.exe (the real file) was 32 bit in the 32-bit version but could easily have it wrong.
thanks M
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 07:09:32PM +0000, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
Hi Miller,
Both Windows distributions of 0.49-0test1 on your site are 64-bit.
Is not an html link mistake. I also cheked the files listed on http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/
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The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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Does that mean Wish86.exe was 64-bit?
Yes.
I think pd.exe (the real file) was 32 bit in the 32-bit version but could easily have it wrong.
pd.exe was 64 bit.
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On 9/13/2018 4:15 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Does that mean Wish86.exe was 64-bit? I think pd.exe (the real file) was 32 bit in the 32-bit version but could easily have it wrong.
thanks M
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 07:09:32PM +0000, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
Hi Miller,
Both Windows distributions of 0.49-0test1 on your site are 64-bit.
Is not an html link mistake. I also cheked the files listed on http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/
--
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On 9/11/2018 2:23 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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Sure enough - it looks like it's 32 bit in test2 but 64 bit in test1. I don't know how that happened - will double-check when putting out test3 :)
M
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 07:36:26PM +0000, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
Does that mean Wish86.exe was 64-bit?
Yes.
I think pd.exe (the real file) was 32 bit in the 32-bit version but could easily have it wrong.
pd.exe was 64 bit.
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On 9/13/2018 4:15 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Does that mean Wish86.exe was 64-bit? I think pd.exe (the real file) was 32 bit in the 32-bit version but could easily have it wrong.
thanks M
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 07:09:32PM +0000, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
Hi Miller,
Both Windows distributions of 0.49-0test1 on your site are 64-bit.
Is not an html link mistake. I also cheked the files listed on http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/
--
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On 9/11/2018 2:23 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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You can use the error log4 in the console. Deken will tell about pd.exe:
[deken] Platform re-detected: Windows-i386-float32
or
[deken] Platform re-detected: Windows-amd64-float32
:)
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On 9/13/2018 4:45 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Sure enough - it looks like it's 32 bit in test2 but 64 bit in test1. I don't know how that happened - will double-check when putting out test3 :)
M
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 07:36:26PM +0000, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
Does that mean Wish86.exe was 64-bit?
Yes.
I think pd.exe (the real file) was 32 bit in the 32-bit version but could easily have it wrong.
pd.exe was 64 bit.
--
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On 9/13/2018 4:15 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Does that mean Wish86.exe was 64-bit? I think pd.exe (the real file) was 32 bit in the 32-bit version but could easily have it wrong.
thanks M
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 07:09:32PM +0000, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
Hi Miller,
Both Windows distributions of 0.49-0test1 on your site are 64-bit.
Is not an html link mistake. I also cheked the files listed on http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/
--
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On 9/11/2018 2:23 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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Also I'm hearing the 64bit win installer puts the program in 'Program Files (x86)' instead of 'Program Files'.
m.
On 13.09.2018 21:45, Miller Puckette wrote:
Sure enough - it looks like it's 32 bit in test2 but 64 bit in test1. I don't know how that happened - will double-check when putting out test3 :)
M
On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 07:36:26PM +0000, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
Does that mean Wish86.exe was 64-bit?
Yes.
I think pd.exe (the real file) was 32 bit in the 32-bit version but could easily have it wrong.
pd.exe was 64 bit.
--
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On 9/13/2018 4:15 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:
Does that mean Wish86.exe was 64-bit? I think pd.exe (the real file) was 32 bit in the 32-bit version but could easily have it wrong.
thanks M
On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 07:09:32PM +0000, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
Hi Miller,
Both Windows distributions of 0.49-0test1 on your site are 64-bit.
Is not an html link mistake. I also cheked the files listed on http://msp.ucsd.edu/Software/
--
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On 9/11/2018 2:23 AM, Miller Puckette wrote:
The first test version of Pd 0.49-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data
cheers Miller
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