There is an external for Festival Lite - think it's called flite; was tricky to compile the last time I used it; it renders sentences to audio in tables iirc - was a while ago I tried it. I think pd-radio used it too, but I could be wrong...

hard off wrote:

is there a 'pd speak' abstraction or external somewhere?

i have never seen one.

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On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 10:15 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:

Hallo, Claude Heiland-Allen hat gesagt: // Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:

...

There is an external for Festival Lite - think it's called flite; was tricky to compile the last time I used it; it renders sentences to audio in tables iirc - was a while ago I tried it. I think pd-radio used it too, but I could be wrong...

There also is ratts, which is very cool.

i found the external in:

<pd-cvs>/abstractions/rradical/instruments/speakerboxx/ratts.pd_linux

but i couldn't find a help file. also when i create it, i get the message:

ratts: Realtime Analog Text-To-Speech externals v0.04 by Bryan Jurish ratts: Based on text-to-speech code by Nick Ing-Simmons and Jon Iles ratts: and PD external code by Orm Finnendahl and Travis Newhouse

but the object doesn't get any inlets nor outlets. maybe you can tell us a bit more about this external?

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On 2007-06-02 12:34:18, Georg Holzmann grhPD@gmx.at appears to have written:

Hallo!

Bryan Jurish is the speech expert in pd world ;) ... you can find all his stuff here: http://www.ling.uni-potsdam.de/~moocow/projects/pd/

Thanks for plugging my site Georg... saves me some typing ;-)

There are the ratts and flite externals. I think he also made an external for the mbrola speech synthesizer, but did not release it ...

Sorry, never made an mbrola external -- mbrola is closed-source free-as-in-beer-ware. Somebody (I forget who) wrote a MAX external for mbrola a few years back, and unto him did I praise and extol the wonders and glories of flext, but lo, the release was binary, and it was only unto the Mac, and there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I did make an ugly-hack patch at one point using ext13 (pipein~?) to talk to mbrola over named fifos, but it never worked particularly well.

I have another (far, far uglier but at least functional) system that looks like (pd <--(OSC)--> perl <--(TCP)--> festival --(system calls?)--> mbrola --> temp files --> pd), but the guts are all freely available (SayWhat is the perl part, festival works "out-of-the-box", and my patches basically require my entire patch library, which I'm too lazy to package at the moment). If anyone is terribly interested, I can tar up my whole pd patch library and point you at the relevant patches.

Yes, for the pd radio I used the flite external, which is quite okay but only english ...

It's allegedly possible to compile a flite library for any festival language-model built with the festvox tools (note: this does not include German: AFAIK the only festival support for German is from IMS Stuttgart, they've stopped supporting it, and I personally have never gotten it to compile, even after much wailing, gnashing of teeth, etc.)

I'm not sure how well the pd flite interface actually supports multiple languages -- I've only ever tested it with the default english models. It should be pretty straightforward to compile & link it against an alternate flite library though. If anyone succeeds, I'm happy to discuss how to go about generalizing the build procedure.

marmosets, Bryan

Le vendredi 08 juin 2007 à 17:21 +0200, patrice colet a écrit :

the -fPIC flag was missing, so I've added this one at line 3845:

WFLAGS="-Wall -fPIC"

I had to do the same thing with [ratts], at line 4389:

OFLAGS="-O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing

-fPIC"

It wasn't enough, [flite] dependances has been installed with apt-get, then the flite headers and libraries wasn't in a place expected by the configure file (I didn't have chace with --with-flite-dir option).

This time, the configure script has found the flite headers without modifying anything or putting any tag, cool!

Patko.

PS: sorry for the bad english...

Hello!

Le samedi 09 juin 2007 à 01:22 +0200, Bryan Jurish a écrit :

-fPIC should be linux-safe; I'm actually surprised it wasn't there already... at any rate, it's there now (in cvs): thanks for the report. just for the record, what happened when you tried to compile without -fPIC ?

The source files came from http://www.ling.uni-potsdam.de/~moocow/projects/pd/:

$ ./configure checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking for gawk... gawk checking whether make sets $(MAKE)... yes checking for gcc... gcc checking for C compiler default output file name... a.out checking whether the C compiler works... yes checking whether we are cross compiling... no checking for suffix of executables... checking for suffix of object files... o checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler... yes checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes checking for gcc option to accept ISO C89... none needed checking for style of include used by make... GNU checking dependency style of gcc... gcc3 checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c checking for flite.h... yes checking for flite_init in -lflite... yes checking for cmu_lex_init in -lflite_cmulex... yes checking for usenglish_init in -lflite_usenglish... yes checking for register_cmu_us_kal in -lflite_cmu_us_kal16... yes checking whether we are building a debug version... no configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating config/Makefile config.status: WARNING: config/Makefile.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting config.status: creating Makefile config.status: WARNING: Makefile.in seems to ignore the --datarootdir setting config.status: creating config.h config.status: config.h is unchanged config.status: executing depfiles commands

$ make make all-recursive Making all in config if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/local/pd/src -I/usr/include/flite -O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -MT flite.o -MD -MP -MF ".deps/flite.Tpo" -c -o flite.o flite.c;
then mv -f ".deps/flite.Tpo" ".deps/flite.Po"; else rm -f ".deps/flite.Tpo"; exit 1; fi gcc -O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -o flite.pd_linux -L/usr/lib -export_dynamic -shared flite.o -lflite_cmu_us_kal16 -lflite_usenglish -lflite_cmulex -lflite -lm /usr/bin/ld: flite.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `a local symbol' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC flite.o: could not read symbols: Bad value

...

The attached file is a modification of the help patch I've made for resolving a buffer issue, I've just added a banged message [;array const 0( before flite computes the voice, for emptying the buffer, it's one method among many others...

what happens on your system if you don't explicitly zero the array before re-synthesis?

If I want to process a long sentence and after, a short one, I still have the end of the long sentence into the table. Thanks for the configure advice, Patko

Hi list,

I've toyed around with Ratts quite a bit and when you do have the
help files it makes everything seem more complicated than it really
is. So, here's a little patch that contains the bare essentials that
you need to do start experimenting with Ratts:

ratsass.pd:

#N canvas 87 74 462 312 10; #X obj 259 232 dac~; #X obj 221 96 guessphones; #X obj 221 179 klatt~; #X obj 335 105 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj 220 117 phones2holmes f; #X obj 271 203 freeverb~; #X obj 335 125 metro 15; #X msg 155 120 basec $1; #X floatatom 155 102 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 14 7 I wanna be your witch doktah oh yeah; #X msg 142 148 f0decl 20; #X obj 216 140 holmes f0decl 0 topc -30; #X msg 14 49 this is SO crazy; #X msg 14 28 yo homes; #X msg 14 71 browthoom koma blessooth yoelin; #X obj 334 85 loadbang; #X connect 1 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 0 1; #X connect 2 0 5 0; #X connect 3 0 6 0; #X connect 4 0 11 0; #X connect 5 0 0 0; #X connect 5 1 0 1; #X connect 6 0 11 0; #X connect 7 0 11 0; #X connect 8 0 7 0; #X connect 9 0 1 0; #X connect 10 0 11 0; #X connect 11 0 2 0; #X connect 12 0 1 0; #X connect 13 0 1 0; #X connect 14 0 1 0; #X connect 15 0 3 0;

On 2-Jun-07, at 5:53 AM, Roman Haefeli wrote:

On Sat, 2007-06-02 at 10:15 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:

...

Hallo, Claude Heiland-Allen hat gesagt: // Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:

...

There is an external for Festival Lite - think it's called flite;
was tricky to compile the last time I used it; it renders sentences
to audio in tables iirc - was a while ago I tried it. I think pd-radio
used it too, but I could be wrong...

There also is ratts, which is very cool.

i found the external in:

<pd-cvs>/abstractions/rradical/instruments/speakerboxx/ratts.pd_linux

but i couldn't find a help file. also when i create it, i get the message:

ratts: Realtime Analog Text-To-Speech externals v0.04 by Bryan Jurish ratts: Based on text-to-speech code by Nick Ing-Simmons and Jon Iles ratts: and PD external code by Orm Finnendahl and Travis Newhouse

but the object doesn't get any inlets nor outlets. maybe you can
tell us a bit more about this external?

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Hi Bryan, No need to apologize. I wasn't trying to suggest that there was
anything wrong with Ratts. I think Ratts is really cool and I used it
in a recent online project called "On Everything" (http:// pallit.lhi.is/on_everything). But when I started looking at voice
synthesis through PD, I wasn't looking for anything complex with lots
of capabilities. I just wanted a really synthy sounding voice inside
PD. It took me a while to glean from the help files, the bare
essentials to getting PD+ratts to "say" something and when I did, it
turned out to be a lot simpler than I felt that the sample and help
files made it look at first. So, perhaps it would be good to have one
patch with the help files that is just the bare minimum. Some of us
like to get that so we can then dive right in and start experimenting
with it ourselves.

But again, ratts is great and I expect to use it in some future
projects as well.

Pall

On 2-Jun-07, at 6:40 PM, Bryan Jurish wrote:

moin Pall, moin list,

Many apologies that the ratts help files seem to be less than entirely intuitive to first-time users; in my defense, I can only say: "sheesh, man, if you folks think the ratts pd API is poorly documented, y'all should see the rsynth code"...

ok, now that I've gotten that out of my system (no flame intended, honestly): do you have an immediate suggestion as to how I could
improve things? I realize that a ratts chain has more user-settable
parameters than you can shake a proverbial stick at, but the defaults should be sensible (if you want something that sounds vaguely like human
speech), and playing with those strange animals is half the fun ;-) I included the 'ratts~' abstraction so that users could get an idea how all those separate objects work together and/or just "make pd talk"; and I
rather hoped that the 'ratts-help.pd' help patch would suffice for an
overview of the objects in it... oh well...

marmosets, Bryan

On 2007-06-02 15:49:43, Pall Thayer palli@pallit.lhi.is appears to have written:

...

Hi list,

I've toyed around with Ratts quite a bit and when you do have the
help files it makes everything seem more complicated than it really is.
So, here's a little patch that contains the bare essentials that you
need to do start experimenting with Ratts:

ratsass.pd:

[snip]

-- Bryan Jurish "There is *always* one more
bug." jurish@ling.uni-potsdam.de -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic
Entomology

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