On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Nicolas Lhommet wrote:
Hello, I'd like to know if user's questions are welcome in this mailinglist. You all discuss about bugs or implementation of new features, that's quite interesting, and I hope i will submit some externals or some bug-fix soon, but do you plan to create a new mailinglist dedicated to users, keeping this one for "developers" ?
I've been on this list long enought to know that the newbie questions are welcome and rarely ingored. I know that some couple of years ago i was threatening the list with a simple tutorial for total begginers but I never got to it because I didn't have access to a Linux box on a regular basis. This has now changed, I have a linux box at home and I already started writing a tutorial that is starting from zero. In a week or two (I'm doing it in my spare time, of which I have very little) I should have something that will be worth putting up somewhere. I'm sure the guys at pure-data.org will not object to putting it up there for everyone to use. I'm doing it in html right away. I will announce it when it's done.
In the meantime, examples in the pd distribution are the way to go and since I'm not a developer I will perhaps get involved in answering the newbie questions. Looks like the number of newbies is slowly growing. While I'm at it, I'd like to see a show of hands of people who need a newbie tutorial... or think it'd be a good idea. I know that most pd users migrate from Opcode Max (or other MAx flavours) and they don't really need basic stuff but perhaps there are more newbies than I/we think...
Also, just out of curiosity, how many subscribers to the list?
cheers
./MiS
P.S. sorry Nicolas for sending the message to you rather than the list.....
On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Michal Seta wrote:
Also, just out of curiosity, how many subscribers to the list?
there are 310 subscribers.
i too am happy with just 1 pd-list - but this is just the egoistic point of view of the list mantainer :-)
miller once had the idea to make a web site which collects informations about projects which use pd. shall i start such a thing? i would really like to know what you all are using pd for...
norbert
Olaf Matthes wrote
I often feel that I have to re-invent things in Pd that still have been
done by
other people. .... I think it would be nice to have a place where people can 'publish'
information
(ore URLs) about projects they have worked on just to get an impression
what is
possible and what has been done so far. This might also be a helpfull
resource
for newbies to learn all the 'old tricks' necessary to use Pd...
Norbert Math wrote :
miller once had the idea to make a web site which collects informations about projects which use pd. shall i start such a thing? i would really like to know what you all are using pd for...
Yes, that could be great. I'm still a Pd newbie, and i'm making equalizers, or samplers, for training. And I'm always thinking "It would be nice to get a lot of examples from the different users, and i'm sure someone else has done this or that before". It's nice to re-invent the wheel, it helps you to understand better, but sometimes, I would like to go on an website, click on "users/generic/reverbs" and find fifty differents reverb patches, with a little description of each patch and the mail adress to contact the person. Or "external/control" to find an external for joystick control. The Pure Data Base is a search engine so you can't easily access to the whole list of files with arborescence.
A website which collects informations about a lot of projects, with patches (even buggy), would be nice. And why not : collected informations about specific soundcard/system, like "I got a Soundblaster AWE64 with Redhat 6.2, I got glitches, but with options "- frags 5 -fragsize 11" and OSS drivers, it's allright". And a big links page with different sections : projects, external, sound drivers, useful signal theory, ...
Yes, we got Miller's page, pure-data.org, iem.kug.ac.at/pd/, Guenther Geiger's links page, but I think it could be a good idea to centralize this a bit more, and we should try to find the best way to share our knowledge about Pd.
Nicolas Lhommet
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