Hi @ PD List
Just a quick question to ask if someone could help me with the bonk~ object I'd be most grateful :
a) Some more 'plain' information about bonk~ and it's 2 outputs. I've (naturally) read the 'help' patch on the object. b) How can I control (more precisely) the input level of this object? I did look at the terminal using a [print] object to see if I could control things a little better .... but, I haven't really understood the problem, and therefore the solution. I've also tried using [thresh( and [minvel( but they seem a little 'hit or miss' due to my lack of knowledge.
Thanks in advance Joe (Higham)
Hi Joe,
When you're searching for a good "minvel" setting, you should watch the 2nd number in the list from bonk's right outlet. Then play a few sample notes on the instrument you're trying to track to get a sense of typical velocities.
The threshold setting is a little less intuitive. To find the best values for that, you have to get a sense of how the sum of growth in all frequency bands is changing over time. I made the attached patch to explain this in a class, and it might be helpful for you. You'll have to download my [tabletool] extern for it to work though, which you can get here:
http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html#tabletool
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM, joe higham joehigham@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi @ PD List
Just a quick question to ask if someone could help me with the bonk~ object I'd be most grateful :
a) Some more 'plain' information about bonk~ and it's 2 outputs. I've (naturally) read the 'help' patch on the object. b) How can I control (more precisely) the input level of this object? I did look at the terminal using a [print] object to see if I could control things a little better .... but, I haven't really understood the problem, and therefore the solution. I've also tried using [thresh( and [minvel( but they seem a little 'hit or miss' due to my lack of knowledge.
Thanks in advance Joe (Higham)
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.. one small comment - the 'minvel' message might not be functioning in recent versions - I have to check this.
cheers Miller
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:47:49PM -0500, William Brent wrote:
Hi Joe,
When you're searching for a good "minvel" setting, you should watch the 2nd number in the list from bonk's right outlet. Then play a few sample notes on the instrument you're trying to track to get a sense of typical velocities.
The threshold setting is a little less intuitive. To find the best values for that, you have to get a sense of how the sum of growth in all frequency bands is changing over time. I made the attached patch to explain this in a class, and it might be helpful for you. You'll have to download my [tabletool] extern for it to work though, which you can get here:
http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html#tabletool
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM, joe higham joehigham@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi @ PD List
Just a quick question to ask if someone could help me with the bonk~ object I'd be most grateful :
a) Some more 'plain' information about bonk~ and it's 2 outputs. I've (naturally) read the 'help' patch on the object. b) How can I control (more precisely) the input level of this object? I did look at the terminal using a [print] object to see if I could control things a little better .... but, I haven't really understood the problem, and therefore the solution. I've also tried using [thresh( and [minvel( but they seem a little 'hit or miss' due to my lack of knowledge.
Thanks in advance Joe (Higham)
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Another small comment: there's a missing [list-drip] in the patch I just posted. Here's the right one :)
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
.. one small comment - the 'minvel' message might not be functioning in recent versions - I have to check this.
cheers Miller
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:47:49PM -0500, William Brent wrote:
Hi Joe,
When you're searching for a good "minvel" setting, you should watch the 2nd number in the list from bonk's right outlet. Then play a few sample notes on the instrument you're trying to track to get a sense of typical velocities.
The threshold setting is a little less intuitive. To find the best values for that, you have to get a sense of how the sum of growth in all frequency bands is changing over time. I made the attached patch to explain this in a class, and it might be helpful for you. You'll have to download my [tabletool] extern for it to work though, which you can get here:
http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html#tabletool
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM, joe higham joehigham@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi @ PD List
Just a quick question to ask if someone could help me with the bonk~ object I'd be most grateful :
a) Some more 'plain' information about bonk~ and it's 2 outputs. I've (naturally) read the 'help' patch on the object. b) How can I control (more precisely) the input level of this object? I did look at the terminal using a [print] object to see if I could control things a little better .... but, I haven't really understood the problem, and therefore the solution. I've also tried using [thresh( and [minvel( but they seem a little 'hit or miss' due to my lack of knowledge.
Thanks in advance Joe (Higham)
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“Great minds flock together” Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century
www.conflations.com
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Shall i remove the reference to the paper mentioned in the bonk~ helpfile or does it still exist somewhere? m.
Am 15.02.2012 um 05:59 schrieb Miller Puckette:
.. one small comment - the 'minvel' message might not be functioning in recent versions - I have to check this.
cheers Miller
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:47:49PM -0500, William Brent wrote:
Hi Joe,
When you're searching for a good "minvel" setting, you should watch the 2nd number in the list from bonk's right outlet. Then play a few sample notes on the instrument you're trying to track to get a sense of typical velocities.
The threshold setting is a little less intuitive. To find the best values for that, you have to get a sense of how the sum of growth in all frequency bands is changing over time. I made the attached patch to explain this in a class, and it might be helpful for you. You'll have to download my [tabletool] extern for it to work though, which you can get here:
http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html#tabletool
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM, joe higham joehigham@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi @ PD List
Just a quick question to ask if someone could help me with the bonk~ object I'd be most grateful :
a) Some more 'plain' information about bonk~ and it's 2 outputs. I've (naturally) read the 'help' patch on the object. b) How can I control (more precisely) the input level of this object? I did look at the terminal using a [print] object to see if I could control things a little better .... but, I haven't really understood the problem, and therefore the solution. I've also tried using [thresh( and [minvel( but they seem a little 'hit or miss' due to my lack of knowledge.
Thanks in advance Joe (Higham)
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-- William Brent www.williambrent.com
“Great minds flock together” Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century
www.conflations.com
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It's on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Publications/icmc98.ps .. the exact URL doesn't appear on the Pd vanilla help file for bonk~, which just points to my home page.
cheers Miller
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 04:26:16PM +0100, Max wrote:
Shall i remove the reference to the paper mentioned in the bonk~ helpfile or does it still exist somewhere? m.
Am 15.02.2012 um 05:59 schrieb Miller Puckette:
.. one small comment - the 'minvel' message might not be functioning in recent versions - I have to check this.
cheers Miller
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:47:49PM -0500, William Brent wrote:
Hi Joe,
When you're searching for a good "minvel" setting, you should watch the 2nd number in the list from bonk's right outlet. Then play a few sample notes on the instrument you're trying to track to get a sense of typical velocities.
The threshold setting is a little less intuitive. To find the best values for that, you have to get a sense of how the sum of growth in all frequency bands is changing over time. I made the attached patch to explain this in a class, and it might be helpful for you. You'll have to download my [tabletool] extern for it to work though, which you can get here:
http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html#tabletool
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM, joe higham joehigham@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi @ PD List
Just a quick question to ask if someone could help me with the bonk~ object I'd be most grateful :
a) Some more 'plain' information about bonk~ and it's 2 outputs. I've (naturally) read the 'help' patch on the object. b) How can I control (more precisely) the input level of this object? I did look at the terminal using a [print] object to see if I could control things a little better .... but, I haven't really understood the problem, and therefore the solution. I've also tried using [thresh( and [minvel( but they seem a little 'hit or miss' due to my lack of knowledge.
Thanks in advance Joe (Higham)
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“Great minds flock together” Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century
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i must have been blind. now i can find it on the listed publications. sorry for the noise. m.
Am 25.02.2012 um 19:59 schrieb Miller Puckette:
It's on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/Publications/icmc98.ps .. the exact URL doesn't appear on the Pd vanilla help file for bonk~, which just points to my home page.
cheers Miller
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 04:26:16PM +0100, Max wrote:
Shall i remove the reference to the paper mentioned in the bonk~ helpfile or does it still exist somewhere? m.
Am 15.02.2012 um 05:59 schrieb Miller Puckette:
.. one small comment - the 'minvel' message might not be functioning in recent versions - I have to check this.
cheers Miller
On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 11:47:49PM -0500, William Brent wrote:
Hi Joe,
When you're searching for a good "minvel" setting, you should watch the 2nd number in the list from bonk's right outlet. Then play a few sample notes on the instrument you're trying to track to get a sense of typical velocities.
The threshold setting is a little less intuitive. To find the best values for that, you have to get a sense of how the sum of growth in all frequency bands is changing over time. I made the attached patch to explain this in a class, and it might be helpful for you. You'll have to download my [tabletool] extern for it to work though, which you can get here:
http://williambrent.conflations.com/pages/research.html#tabletool
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM, joe higham joehigham@hotmail.com wrote:
Hi @ PD List
Just a quick question to ask if someone could help me with the bonk~ object I'd be most grateful :
a) Some more 'plain' information about bonk~ and it's 2 outputs. I've (naturally) read the 'help' patch on the object. b) How can I control (more precisely) the input level of this object? I did look at the terminal using a [print] object to see if I could control things a little better .... but, I haven't really understood the problem, and therefore the solution. I've also tried using [thresh( and [minvel( but they seem a little 'hit or miss' due to my lack of knowledge.
Thanks in advance Joe (Higham)
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“Great minds flock together” Conflations: conversational idiom for the 21st century
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