Hi List I have been looking but have not found the way to ask a slider for the ranges it has been set to.
Is there a way to get a slider to print all its propperties? This will be useful to create a tool that makes randomness to any slider for a percentage depending on the ranges it is already set to. I obviously know the ranges, but have a huge number of sliders and [knob] objects so it would be painful to try to get them all. Also, if such a method exists, the randomic thing I wanna do could be implemented to any object without having to look at ist propperties.
Would appreciate help or leads to workitout.
Thanks
D
From: D G mami.music@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 2:41 PM Subject: [PD] getting the ranges from a slider
Hi List I have been looking but have not found the way to ask a slider for the ranges it has been set to.
Is there a way to get a slider to print all its propperties? This will be useful to create a tool that makes randomness to any slider for a percentage depending on the ranges it is already set to. I obviously know the ranges, but have a huge number of sliders and [knob] objects so it would be painful to try to get them all. Also, if such a method exists, the randomic thing I wanna do could be implemented to any object without having to look at ist propperties.
I wrote a patch for a canvas "get" method:
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3308027&group_id=557...
The downside: whatever the programming equivalent of "through-composed" is, that would
describe the way I coded this. matju gave me some suggestions for making it easier to
register the symbols for the attributes. Also for iemguis, you probably want the results to
be sent by default to a 2nd outlet which you would add to the object. (I think there's a
patched version of [tgl] on the tracker that does this.)
One other downside: the only practical way I've found to print _all_ properties in response to
one message is as a sequence of messages that flow from the outlet or specified receive-name.
If you try to use such objects recursively Pd won't catch your buffer-overflow mistakes:
[r oops] | [60 1, 61 1, 62 1, 63 1, flush( | [bag] | [s oops]
-Jonathan
Would appreciate help or leads to workitout.
Thanks
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On 2012-02-21 20:41, D G wrote:
Hi List I have been looking but have not found the way to ask a slider for the ranges it has been set to.
Is there a way to get a slider to print all its propperties? This will be useful to create a tool that makes randomness to any slider for a percentage depending on the ranges it is already set to. I obviously know the ranges, but have a huge number of sliders and [knob] objects so it would be painful to try to get them all. Also, if such a method exists, the randomic thing I wanna do could be implemented to any object without having to look at ist propperties.
Would appreciate help or leads to workitout.
how about: normalize all slider ranges between 0..1 and transform the output to the desired range only afterwards?
i always thought, that the MIDI-based default scaling of sliders and the like was a step back, and that being able to specify the range has little gain (though of course i use it...)
fgm,asdr IOhannes
Hi guys
Hey Jonathan your patch was very nice, but the get method did not work for me. I had already tried it before writing to the list. Is there a real way to work this out?
IOhannes
how about: normalize all slider ranges between 0..1 and transform the output to the desired range only afterwards? Yes thats what i was trying to avoid. But seems that there is no other way.
i always thought, that the MIDI-based default scaling of sliders and the like was a step back, and that being able to specify the range has little gain (though of course i use it...)
That could be if seeking to simplify the settings of native gui objects in PD.
I agree with you on the MIDI based default... normalized could be simpler. Also easier to explain to a person that is just starting to learn PD. Sometimes when they ask "why is the range set to 127" you end up with a long talk about MIDI to a person that is getting started and wants to get his first sound out of PD.
back to the "get"... is there a way to doit?
D
2012/2/22 IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at
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On 2012-02-21 20:41, D G wrote:
Hi List I have been looking but have not found the way to ask a slider for the ranges it has been set to.
Is there a way to get a slider to print all its propperties? This will be useful to create a tool that makes randomness to any slider for a percentage depending on the ranges it is already set to. I obviously know the ranges, but have a huge number of sliders and [knob] objects so it would be painful to try to get them all. Also, if such a method exists, the randomic thing I wanna do could be implemented to any object without having to look at ist propperties.
Would appreciate help or leads to workitout.
how about: normalize all slider ranges between 0..1 and transform the output to the desired range only afterwards?
i always thought, that the MIDI-based default scaling of sliders and the like was a step back, and that being able to specify the range has little gain (though of course i use it...)
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From: D G mami.music@gmail.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [PD] getting the ranges from a slider
Hi guys
Hey Jonathan your patch was very nice, but the get method did not work for me. I had already tried it before writing to the list. Is there a real way to work this out?
It is only for getting the properties of a canvas (i.e., patch properties).
One could do a similar patch for the iemguis and atom boxes using that type of interface, but I haven't
made one.
-Jonathan
Le 22/02/2012 17:51, D G a écrit :
Hi guys
Hey Jonathan your patch was very nice, but the get method did not work for me. I had already tried it before writing to the list. Is there a real way to work this out?
IOhannes
how about: normalize all slider ranges between 0..1 and transform the output to the desired range only afterwards? Yes thats what i was trying to avoid. But seems that there is no other way.
i always thought, that the MIDI-based default scaling of sliders and the like was a step back, and that being able to specify the range has little gain (though of course i use it...)
That could be if seeking to simplify the settings of native gui objects in PD.
I agree with you on the MIDI based default... normalized could be simpler. Also easier to explain to a person that is just starting to learn PD. Sometimes when they ask "why is the range set to 127" you end up with a long talk about MIDI to a person that is getting started and wants to get his first sound out of PD.
back to the "get"... is there a way to doit?
D
2012/2/22 IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig@iem.at mailto:zmoelnig@iem.at>
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2012-02-21 20:41, D G wrote: > Hi List > I have been looking but have not found the way to ask a slider for the > ranges it has been set to. > > Is there a way to get a slider to print all its propperties? This will be > useful to create a tool that makes randomness to any slider for a > percentage depending on the ranges it is already set to. I obviously know > the ranges, but have a huge number of sliders and [knob] objects so it > would be painful to try to get them all. > Also, if such a method exists, the randomic thing I wanna do could be > implemented to any object without having to look at ist propperties. > > Would appreciate help or leads to workitout. > how about: normalize all slider ranges between 0..1 and transform the output to the desired range only afterwards? i always thought, that the MIDI-based default scaling of sliders and the like was a step back, and that being able to specify the range has little gain (though of course i use it...) fgm,asdr IOhannes -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk9EnSYACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS7GwCgpO45m+ngMiU9EHd3lLb5W7Pb FM8AoOQuzXgGVNP+jz+88rUKCfkiPfSz =NnuF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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Hello,
Here a small patch showing what IOhannes means. ++
Jack
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