yea - really great! should be in the PD introduction under "How to approach a problem in PD" or maybe "General notes on using PD"
At 19:16 03.05.2006, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
What a great piece of comedy on this dreary rainy Kansas day!
~Kyle
On 5/3/06, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
hmm, let's think: which object could do that? grabbing the keyboard...[keyboard]? argh, couldn't create; what now? actually i don't want the entire "keyboard" but just "keys", lets try [keys] - argh, couldn't create either; try [key]..couldn't..no wait this does something, let's have a look at the help.
alternative: hmm, let's think: which object could do that? grabbing the keyboard...[keyboard]? argh, couldn't create; what now? it really *should* be called keyboard, let's have a look at the list of objects (right-click on canvas, select "help"); it might be in here, but i cannot search this text-file, so forget it (ok, i could copy'n'paste the entire file into a text-editor and use the search in there, but who cares); what now? hmm, most objects have a help patch, so go to doc/5.reference/; whoa! there's a LOT of objects; keyboard,keyboard..let's have a look at "k", hmm: "key-help.pd" what's that, never heard of it, probably something useless; anyhow, i'll have a look at it, maybe it can serve me another time...
mfg.as.dr. IOhannes
Thanks Peter
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sven wrote:
yea - really great! should be in the PD introduction under "How to approach a problem in PD" or maybe "General notes on using PD"
Yes, maybe with further examples like "which object would I use to have numbers less than a certain value come out the left output and the rest to go out the right output?"
Martin
yes, that was pretty sarcastic... I think a sarcastic tutorial is a great idea. wait a minute...no one knows what I'm saying...what is this some kind of text based forum that can't encode inflections?
chuck
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Charles Henry wrote:
yes, that was pretty sarcastic... I think a sarcastic tutorial is a great idea. wait a minute...no one knows what I'm saying...what is this some kind of text based forum that can't encode inflections?
The problem is that such a message has several interpretations, it might be
The list should be a place where questions can be asked without fearing that someone makes fun of you in public, which was my interpretation of the message.
Günter
geiger wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Charles Henry wrote:
yes, that was pretty sarcastic... I think a sarcastic tutorial is a great idea. wait a minute...no one knows what I'm saying...what is this some kind of text based forum that can't encode inflections?
The problem is that such a message has several interpretations, it might be
- insulting (to the one who asked the question)
- funny
- express shortcomings in how pd works
- explain how to look for objects
- ...
The list should be a place where questions can be asked without fearing that someone makes fun of you in public, which was my interpretation of the message.
i definitely did not want to make fun of peter or anyone else. if he felt insulted, i feel sorry and apologize.
what i did try was to encourage people (in general) to look out for built-in objects. ...
and obviously i forgot puredatabase (most likely because this option for finding option lies somewhat within my responsibility): hmm, let's think: which object could do that? grabbing the keyboard...let's search the pdb.. http://pd.iem.at/pdb/query.html?all=y&alb=y&qry=keyboard ... hmm, no object found;
note to myself: put a HUGE error message on the pdb-website that it is out of order and doesn't find _any_ object.
mfg.adr. IOhannes
Yes, the reason that I thought IOhannes was funny wasn't because of insult, but becaust he actually had a good point about how difficult it can be to find the right object. Some kind of keyword/tag-based system would be nice for searching for those vague tools that you can't quite recall the names of.
~Kyle
On 5/4/06, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
geiger wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Charles Henry wrote:
yes, that was pretty sarcastic... I think a sarcastic tutorial is a great idea. wait a minute...no one knows what I'm saying...what is this some kind of text based forum that can't encode inflections?
The problem is that such a message has several interpretations, it might be
- insulting (to the one who asked the question)
- funny
- express shortcomings in how pd works
- explain how to look for objects
- ...
The list should be a place where questions can be asked without fearing that someone makes fun of you in public, which was my interpretation of the message.
i definitely did not want to make fun of peter or anyone else. if he felt insulted, i feel sorry and apologize.
what i did try was to encourage people (in general) to look out for built-in objects. ...
and obviously i forgot puredatabase (most likely because this option for finding option lies somewhat within my responsibility): hmm, let's think: which object could do that? grabbing the keyboard...let's search the pdb.. http://pd.iem.at/pdb/query.html?all=y&alb=y&qry=keyboard ... hmm, no object found;
note to myself: put a HUGE error message on the pdb-website that it is out of order and doesn't find _any_ object.
mfg.adr. IOhannes
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Yes, I think the sarcastic interpretation was mine, only. I guess one tends to see in others their own behavior (i.e. if you're angry, the whole world looks angry) Oh, what wonders this does when drunk!
Sorry for the unneeded comments, Chuck
On 5/4/06, Kyle Klipowicz kyleklip@gmail.com wrote:
Yes, the reason that I thought IOhannes was funny wasn't because of insult, but becaust he actually had a good point about how difficult it can be to find the right object. Some kind of keyword/tag-based system would be nice for searching for those vague tools that you can't quite recall the names of.
~Kyle
On 5/4/06, IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at wrote:
geiger wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2006, Charles Henry wrote:
yes, that was pretty sarcastic... I think a sarcastic tutorial is a great idea. wait a minute...no one knows what I'm saying...what is this some kind of text based forum that can't encode inflections?
The problem is that such a message has several interpretations, it might be
- insulting (to the one who asked the question)
- funny
- express shortcomings in how pd works
- explain how to look for objects
- ...
The list should be a place where questions can be asked without fearing that someone makes fun of you in public, which was my interpretation of the message.
i definitely did not want to make fun of peter or anyone else. if he felt insulted, i feel sorry and apologize.
what i did try was to encourage people (in general) to look out for built-in objects. ...
and obviously i forgot puredatabase (most likely because this option for finding option lies somewhat within my responsibility): hmm, let's think: which object could do that? grabbing the keyboard...let's search the pdb.. http://pd.iem.at/pdb/query.html?all=y&alb=y&qry=keyboard ... hmm, no object found;
note to myself: put a HUGE error message on the pdb-website that it is out of order and doesn't find _any_ object.
mfg.adr. IOhannes
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