Hello!
Hard off said I could do the next connection to avoid clicks between slices:
[tabread4~] | | [0 5. 0 5 5( | | | [vline~] | | [*~ ]
The main problem with this is I would get silence between the slices, instead of one continuous loop. It could work for rythmic stuff, but not for vocals or longer non-rythmic sounds...
Ill keep searching, if I fix it, I'll let you know
thanx,
Rodrigo
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On 01/10/2007, at 17.57, F R E N K wrote:
The main problem with this is I would get silence between the
slices, instead of one continuous loop.
The silence will be very short. I'd be surprised if you can hear it.
Other then Hard Off's solution i believe one could either make sure
the slices are zero-crossing (that the endpoint that the end points
are 0 (or at-least the same value)) or to interpolate between the
endpoints of the slices.
Hey
I think with a 5ms fade, as per Hard Off's suggestion, you might not hear the silence.
cheers dafydd
On 10/1/07, Steffen Juul stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 01/10/2007, at 17.57, F R E N K wrote:
The main problem with this is I would get silence between the slices, instead of one continuous loop.
The silence will be very short. I'd be surprised if you can hear it.
Other then Hard Off's solution i believe one could either make sure the slices are zero-crossing (that the endpoint that the end points are 0 (or at-least the same value)) or to interpolate between the endpoints of the slices.
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Anybody have strategies for crossfading in this situation?
On 10/1/07, Steffen Juul stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 01/10/2007, at 18.33, Steffen Juul wrote:
I'd be surprised if you can hear it.
Hmm. Maybe I should take that back.
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Dafydd Hughes wrote:
Anybody have strategies for crossfading in this situation?
Alternate between two [tabread~]'s. 5 ms before tabread 1 is finished you start the second one with the next slice, so that the 5 ms fade-out of the first coincides with the fade-in of the second. gr,
Tim
On 10/1/07, Steffen Juul stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 01/10/2007, at 18.33, Steffen Juul wrote:
I'd be surprised if you can hear it.
Hmm. Maybe I should take that back.
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hm.. i've searched the archives and millers book, but i couldn't find, what i was looking for. probably someone else can point us to the right direction.
iirc, somewhere in millers book, there is a technique described, which allows seamingless transition from one sample to the other (or from loop end to loop start) by adding a little ramp to the second sample in order to make the first sample of the next coming audiosample the same value as the last sample of the previous audiosample.
iirc, frank had once a question about this technique and that is why there is a thread about this technique in the archive, but i couldn't find it.
since this techniques doesn't use any kind of fading and thus doesn't require any overlapping, i found it quite useful.
roman
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 19:17 +0200, tim wrote:
Dafydd Hughes wrote:
Anybody have strategies for crossfading in this situation?
Alternate between two [tabread~]'s. 5 ms before tabread 1 is finished you start the second one with the next slice, so that the 5 ms fade-out of the first coincides with the fade-in of the second. gr,
Tim
On 10/1/07, Steffen Juul stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 01/10/2007, at 18.33, Steffen Juul wrote:
I'd be surprised if you can hear it.
Hmm. Maybe I should take that back.
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federico found it for me:
http://www-crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/v0.01/book-html/node59.html
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 23:10 +0200, Roman Haefeli wrote:
hm.. i've searched the archives and millers book, but i couldn't find, what i was looking for. probably someone else can point us to the right direction.
iirc, somewhere in millers book, there is a technique described, which allows seamingless transition from one sample to the other (or from loop end to loop start) by adding a little ramp to the second sample in order to make the first sample of the next coming audiosample the same value as the last sample of the previous audiosample.
iirc, frank had once a question about this technique and that is why there is a thread about this technique in the archive, but i couldn't find it.
since this techniques doesn't use any kind of fading and thus doesn't require any overlapping, i found it quite useful.
roman
On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 19:17 +0200, tim wrote:
Dafydd Hughes wrote:
Anybody have strategies for crossfading in this situation?
Alternate between two [tabread~]'s. 5 ms before tabread 1 is finished you start the second one with the next slice, so that the 5 ms fade-out of the first coincides with the fade-in of the second. gr,
Tim
On 10/1/07, Steffen Juul stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 01/10/2007, at 18.33, Steffen Juul wrote:
I'd be surprised if you can hear it.
Hmm. Maybe I should take that back.
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Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote:
hm.. i've searched the archives and millers book, but i couldn't find, what i was looking for. probably someone else can point us to the right direction.
iirc, somewhere in millers book, there is a technique described, which allows seamingless transition from one sample to the other (or from loop end to loop start) by adding a little ramp to the second sample in order to make the first sample of the next coming audiosample the same value as the last sample of the previous audiosample.
iirc, frank had once a question about this technique and that is why there is a thread about this technique in the archive, but i couldn't find it.
It's called "switch-and-ramp", the thread also has these words in it. In the book it's here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node63.html
An example is attached. Note that this doesn't really work with vline~.
Ciao
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On Mon, 2007-10-01 at 23:29 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote:
hm.. i've searched the archives and millers book, but i couldn't find, what i was looking for. probably someone else can point us to the right direction.
iirc, somewhere in millers book, there is a technique described, which allows seamingless transition from one sample to the other (or from loop end to loop start) by adding a little ramp to the second sample in order to make the first sample of the next coming audiosample the same value as the last sample of the previous audiosample.
iirc, frank had once a question about this technique and that is why there is a thread about this technique in the archive, but i couldn't find it.
It's called "switch-and-ramp", the thread also has these words in it. In the book it's here: http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/techniques/latest/book-html/node63.html
thanks frank for being a librarian :-)
An example is attached. Note that this doesn't really work with vline~.
not that i implemented this technique myself yet, but isn't it supposed to work with [vline~], when audio data is stored in tables? in that case you don't need [snapshot~] to get the ramp value, but you just read it from the table (beforehand). or am i overseeing something?
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Hallo, Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman Haefeli wrote:
An example is attached. Note that this doesn't really work with vline~.
not that i implemented this technique myself yet, but isn't it supposed to work with [vline~], when audio data is stored in tables? in that case you don't need [snapshot~] to get the ramp value, but you just read it from the table (beforehand). or am i overseeing something?
No, no, you're right. What I meant to express was that what I originally wanted to do in the old thread was to snapshot a signal in the middle of a block and then switch-and-ramp it starting there with vline~, which doesn't work. For smoothing samples read from tables it should be very easy.
Ciao
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Dafydd Hughes a écrit :
Anybody have strategies for crossfading in this situation?
On 10/1/07, Steffen Juul stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 01/10/2007, at 18.33, Steffen Juul wrote:
I'd be surprised if you can hear it.
Hmm. Maybe I should take that back.
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hello, you might be interested by [trapezoid~] from cyclone library
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