You can just use the linux input API to get the wacom data, [hid]
works with wacoms in GNU/Linux, at least last time I tried.
.hc
On May 11, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Stephen Sinclair wrote:
Isn't there actually a reverse engineered Wacom driver for Linux? Couldn't this be used instead of having to ask permission from Wacom?
http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/
I too think it would be great to have cross-platform wacom support, but I think it would be even better if there was a "libwacom" C API for all operating systems for which the Pd "wacom" object was a simple wrapper.
Steve
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, João Pais
jmmmpais@googlemail.com wrote:Hello Pd developers and programmers,
we - me and Johannes Kreidler for now - wanted to ask if anyone
would be interested in programming a version of Thomas Grill's [wacom] for
windows (and unix, if possible). This external is used to take data from
wacom tablets - so in case anyone else is interested in this please say
something.The features/work would include:
- be compatible with general wacom architecture - and specially
with the Intuos3 (which is the tablet we own)
- take all parameters from the tablet connected
- not forgetting tilt+inclination, touch strips and keys (these
aren't covered by [wintablet])
- put the compiled binaries in a svn folder packaged with Pd
Extended (see below)
- be willing to do some maintenance now and then, specially until
things get stable (after that, I guess the work would be kind of finished)
According to T Grill, the developer(s) that work on this must
register with Wacom as developer(s), so that they have access to the wacon
API. Also, the source code cannot be given away, so they must sign a non-disclosure contract (from what Thomas said, not as complicated
as it sounds). I couldn't find exact information about this, but at http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html might be something more clear.It would be perfect if someone would be interested in porting the
code just because. In case that doesn't happen, we - me, Johannes
Kreidler and whoever wants to join in - would be interested in giving a small
payment for the work. We're poor people (just like you), so we can't really
pay what a professional programmer should get for the work. In that
case, just get in discussion with us, and we'll see what can be done.Again, if this interests someone else - either as developper or contributor - please forward this mail away.
Best,
João Pais
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I use [linuxevent /dev/wacom] in linux... plus an abstraction. Works fine and provides everything I need. [hid] does work, but you have to know exactly what /dev/* file to tell it to look at (it won't take the /dev/wacom symlink).
Windows should be the only one that needs the official wacom driver.
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
You can just use the linux input API to get the wacom data, [hid] works with wacoms in GNU/Linux, at least last time I tried.
.hc
On May 11, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Stephen Sinclair wrote:
Isn't there actually a reverse engineered Wacom driver for Linux?
Couldn't this be used instead of having to ask permission from Wacom?
http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/
I too think it would be great to have cross-platform wacom support, but I think it would be even better if there was a "libwacom" C API for all operating systems for which the Pd "wacom" object was a simple wrapper.
Steve
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, João Pais jmmmpais@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello Pd developers and programmers,
we - me and Johannes Kreidler for now - wanted to ask if anyone would be interested in programming a version of Thomas Grill's [wacom] for windows (and unix, if possible). This external is used to take data from wacom tablets - so in case anyone else is interested in this please say something.
The features/work would include:
- be compatible with general wacom architecture - and specially with the
Intuos3 (which is the tablet we own)
- take all parameters from the tablet connected
- not forgetting tilt+inclination, touch strips and keys (these aren't
covered by [wintablet])
- put the compiled binaries in a svn folder packaged with Pd Extended
(see below)
- be willing to do some maintenance now and then, specially until things
get stable (after that, I guess the work would be kind of finished)
According to T Grill, the developer(s) that work on this must register with Wacom as developer(s), so that they have access to the wacon API. Also, the source code cannot be given away, so they must sign a non-disclosure contract (from what Thomas said, not as complicated as it sounds). I couldn't find exact information about this, but at http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html might be something more clear.
It would be perfect if someone would be interested in porting the code just because. In case that doesn't happen, we - me, Johannes Kreidler and whoever wants to join in - would be interested in giving a small payment for the work. We're poor people (just like you), so we can't really pay what a professional programmer should get for the work. In that case, just get in discussion with us, and we'll see what can be done.
Again, if this interests someone else - either as developper or contributor - please forward this mail away.
Best,
João Pais
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You can use the [print( message and look for the wacom in the Pd window.
.hc
On May 12, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Rich E wrote:
I use [linuxevent /dev/wacom] in linux... plus an abstraction.
Works fine and provides everything I need. [hid] does work, but you
have to know exactly what /dev/* file to tell it to look at (it
won't take the /dev/wacom symlink).Windows should be the only one that needs the official wacom driver.
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans@at.or.at wrote:You can just use the linux input API to get the wacom data, [hid]
works with wacoms in GNU/Linux, at least last time I tried..hc
On May 11, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Stephen Sinclair wrote:
Isn't there actually a reverse engineered Wacom driver for Linux? Couldn't this be used instead of having to ask permission from Wacom?
http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/
I too think it would be great to have cross-platform wacom support, but I think it would be even better if there was a "libwacom" C API for all operating systems for which the Pd "wacom" object was a simple wrapper.
Steve
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, João Pais
jmmmpais@googlemail.com wrote: Hello Pd developers and programmers,we - me and Johannes Kreidler for now - wanted to ask if anyone
would be interested in programming a version of Thomas Grill's [wacom] for
windows (and unix, if possible). This external is used to take data from wacom tablets - so in case anyone else is interested in this please say
something.The features/work would include:
- be compatible with general wacom architecture - and specially with
the Intuos3 (which is the tablet we own)
- take all parameters from the tablet connected
- not forgetting tilt+inclination, touch strips and keys (these
aren't covered by [wintablet])
- put the compiled binaries in a svn folder packaged with Pd
Extended (see below)
- be willing to do some maintenance now and then, specially until
things get stable (after that, I guess the work would be kind of finished)
According to T Grill, the developer(s) that work on this must register with Wacom as developer(s), so that they have access to the wacon API. Also, the source code cannot be given away, so they must sign a non-disclosure contract (from what Thomas said, not as complicated
as it sounds). I couldn't find exact information about this, but at http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html might be something more clear.It would be perfect if someone would be interested in porting the code just because. In case that doesn't happen, we - me, Johannes
Kreidler and whoever wants to join in - would be interested in giving a small
payment for the work. We're poor people (just like you), so we can't really
pay what a professional programmer should get for the work. In that
case, just get in discussion with us, and we'll see what can be done.Again, if this interests someone else - either as developper or contributor - please forward this mail away.
Best,
João Pais
-- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp
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On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
You can use the [print( message and look for the wacom in the Pd window.
.hc
Can you think of a way to route this information back to [hid]? The main reason I use [linuxevent] instead of [hid] is because I don't have to click anything in order to initialize the wacom.. it is automatically looking at the correct /dev/*
On May 12, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Rich E wrote:
I use [linuxevent /dev/wacom] in linux... plus an abstraction. Works fine and provides everything I need. [hid] does work, but you have to know exactly what /dev/* file to tell it to look at (it won't take the /dev/wacom symlink).
Windows should be the only one that needs the official wacom driver.
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
You can just use the linux input API to get the wacom data, [hid] works with wacoms in GNU/Linux, at least last time I tried.
.hc
On May 11, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Stephen Sinclair wrote:
Isn't there actually a reverse engineered Wacom driver for Linux?
Couldn't this be used instead of having to ask permission from Wacom?
http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/
I too think it would be great to have cross-platform wacom support, but I think it would be even better if there was a "libwacom" C API for all operating systems for which the Pd "wacom" object was a simple wrapper.
Steve
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, João Pais jmmmpais@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello Pd developers and programmers,
we - me and Johannes Kreidler for now - wanted to ask if anyone would be interested in programming a version of Thomas Grill's [wacom] for windows (and unix, if possible). This external is used to take data from wacom tablets - so in case anyone else is interested in this please say something.
The features/work would include:
- be compatible with general wacom architecture - and specially with the
Intuos3 (which is the tablet we own)
- take all parameters from the tablet connected
- not forgetting tilt+inclination, touch strips and keys (these aren't
covered by [wintablet])
- put the compiled binaries in a svn folder packaged with Pd Extended
(see below)
- be willing to do some maintenance now and then, specially until things
get stable (after that, I guess the work would be kind of finished)
According to T Grill, the developer(s) that work on this must register with Wacom as developer(s), so that they have access to the wacon API. Also, the source code cannot be given away, so they must sign a non-disclosure contract (from what Thomas said, not as complicated as it sounds). I couldn't find exact information about this, but at http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html might be something more clear.
It would be perfect if someone would be interested in porting the code just because. In case that doesn't happen, we - me, Johannes Kreidler and whoever wants to join in - would be interested in giving a small payment for the work. We're poor people (just like you), so we can't really pay what a professional programmer should get for the work. In that case, just get in discussion with us, and we'll see what can be done.
Again, if this interests someone else - either as developper or contributor - please forward this mail away.
Best,
João Pais
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Check the help patch, there are some subpatches on the top
illustrating alternate methods of specifying the device. vendorid/
productid is quite useful, but I forgot if that is implemtned in GNU/
Linux. There are other ways too.
.hc
On May 13, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Rich E wrote:
Can you think of a way to route this information back to [hid]?
The main reason I use [linuxevent] instead of [hid] is because I
don't have to click anything in order to initialize the wacom.. it
is automatically looking at the correct /dev/*
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans@at.or.at wrote:You can use the [print( message and look for the wacom in the Pd
window..hc
On May 12, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Rich E wrote:
I use [linuxevent /dev/wacom] in linux... plus an abstraction.
Works fine and provides everything I need. [hid] does work, but
you have to know exactly what /dev/* file to tell it to look at (it
won't take the /dev/wacom symlink).Windows should be the only one that needs the official wacom driver.
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@at.or.at
wrote:
You can just use the linux input API to get the wacom data, [hid]
works with wacoms in GNU/Linux, at least last time I tried..hc
On May 11, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Stephen Sinclair wrote:
Isn't there actually a reverse engineered Wacom driver for Linux? Couldn't this be used instead of having to ask permission from Wacom?
http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/
I too think it would be great to have cross-platform wacom support, but I think it would be even better if there was a "libwacom" C API for all operating systems for which the Pd "wacom" object was a
simple wrapper.Steve
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, João Pais
jmmmpais@googlemail.com wrote: Hello Pd developers and programmers,we - me and Johannes Kreidler for now - wanted to ask if anyone
would be interested in programming a version of Thomas Grill's [wacom] for
windows (and unix, if possible). This external is used to take data from
wacom tablets - so in case anyone else is interested in this please say
something.The features/work would include:
- be compatible with general wacom architecture - and specially
with the Intuos3 (which is the tablet we own)
- take all parameters from the tablet connected
- not forgetting tilt+inclination, touch strips and keys (these
aren't covered by [wintablet])
- put the compiled binaries in a svn folder packaged with Pd
Extended (see below)
- be willing to do some maintenance now and then, specially until
things get stable (after that, I guess the work would be kind of finished)
According to T Grill, the developer(s) that work on this must
register with Wacom as developer(s), so that they have access to the wacon
API. Also, the source code cannot be given away, so they must sign a non-disclosure contract (from what Thomas said, not as complicated
as it sounds). I couldn't find exact information about this, but at http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html might be something more clear.It would be perfect if someone would be interested in porting the
code just because. In case that doesn't happen, we - me, Johannes
Kreidler and whoever wants to join in - would be interested in giving a small
payment for the work. We're poor people (just like you), so we can't really
pay what a professional programmer should get for the work. In that
case, just get in discussion with us, and we'll see what can be done.Again, if this interests someone else - either as developper or contributor - please forward this mail away.
Best,
João Pais
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On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
Check the help patch, there are some subpatches on the top illustrating alternate methods of specifying the device. vendorid/productid is quite useful
I tried these for a couple hours, quite a long time ago.. trying to compare the output string with the one I expected for my device. I couldn't get anything near as consistent (or even working) as well as just making [linuxevent /dev/wacom] and sending it a poll message. I'll try again soon and tell you what happens.
, but I forgot if that is implemtned in GNU/Linux. There are other ways too.
.hc
On May 13, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Rich E wrote:
Can you think of a way to route this information back to [hid]? The main reason I use [linuxevent] instead of [hid] is because I don't have to click anything in order to initialize the wacom.. it is automatically looking at the correct /dev/*
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
You can use the [print( message and look for the wacom in the Pd window.
.hc
On May 12, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Rich E wrote:
I use [linuxevent /dev/wacom] in linux... plus an abstraction. Works fine and provides everything I need. [hid] does work, but you have to know exactly what /dev/* file to tell it to look at (it won't take the /dev/wacom symlink).
Windows should be the only one that needs the official wacom driver.
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@at.or.atwrote:
You can just use the linux input API to get the wacom data, [hid] works with wacoms in GNU/Linux, at least last time I tried.
.hc
On May 11, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Stephen Sinclair wrote:
Isn't there actually a reverse engineered Wacom driver for Linux?
Couldn't this be used instead of having to ask permission from Wacom?
http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/
I too think it would be great to have cross-platform wacom support, but I think it would be even better if there was a "libwacom" C API for all operating systems for which the Pd "wacom" object was a simple wrapper.
Steve
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, João Pais jmmmpais@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello Pd developers and programmers,
we - me and Johannes Kreidler for now - wanted to ask if anyone would be interested in programming a version of Thomas Grill's [wacom] for windows (and unix, if possible). This external is used to take data from wacom tablets - so in case anyone else is interested in this please say something.
The features/work would include:
- be compatible with general wacom architecture - and specially with
the Intuos3 (which is the tablet we own)
- take all parameters from the tablet connected
- not forgetting tilt+inclination, touch strips and keys (these aren't
covered by [wintablet])
- put the compiled binaries in a svn folder packaged with Pd Extended
(see below)
- be willing to do some maintenance now and then, specially until
things get stable (after that, I guess the work would be kind of finished)
According to T Grill, the developer(s) that work on this must register with Wacom as developer(s), so that they have access to the wacon API. Also, the source code cannot be given away, so they must sign a non-disclosure contract (from what Thomas said, not as complicated as it sounds). I couldn't find exact information about this, but at http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html might be something more clear.
It would be perfect if someone would be interested in porting the code just because. In case that doesn't happen, we - me, Johannes Kreidler and whoever wants to join in - would be interested in giving a small payment for the work. We're poor people (just like you), so we can't really pay what a professional programmer should get for the work. In that case, just get in discussion with us, and we'll see what can be done.
Again, if this interests someone else - either as developper or contributor - please forward this mail away.
Best,
João Pais
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You could try hidio, which is in SVN in externals/io/hidio. I
specifically worked on these kind of issues there. It should be
useable. I plan on making a proper release of it this summer.
.hc
On May 15, 2009, at 9:31 AM, Rich E wrote:
I tried these for a couple hours, quite a long time ago.. trying to
compare the output string with the one I expected for my device. I
couldn't get anything near as consistent (or even working) as well
as just making [linuxevent /dev/wacom] and sending it a poll
message. I'll try again soon and tell you what happens.On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 7:27 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner
hans@at.or.at wrote:Check the help patch, there are some subpatches on the top
illustrating alternate methods of specifying the device. vendorid/ productid is quite useful, but I forgot if that is implemtned in GNU/Linux. There are other
ways too..hc
On May 13, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Rich E wrote:
Can you think of a way to route this information back to [hid]?
The main reason I use [linuxevent] instead of [hid] is because I
don't have to click anything in order to initialize the wacom.. it
is automatically looking at the correct /dev/*On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 4:10 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@at.or.at
wrote:
You can use the [print( message and look for the wacom in the Pd
window..hc
On May 12, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Rich E wrote:
I use [linuxevent /dev/wacom] in linux... plus an abstraction.
Works fine and provides everything I need. [hid] does work, but
you have to know exactly what /dev/* file to tell it to look at
(it won't take the /dev/wacom symlink).Windows should be the only one that needs the official wacom driver.
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 7:48 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@at.or.at
wrote:
You can just use the linux input API to get the wacom data, [hid]
works with wacoms in GNU/Linux, at least last time I tried..hc
On May 11, 2009, at 1:11 PM, Stephen Sinclair wrote:
Isn't there actually a reverse engineered Wacom driver for Linux? Couldn't this be used instead of having to ask permission from
Wacom?http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/
I too think it would be great to have cross-platform wacom support, but I think it would be even better if there was a "libwacom" C API for all operating systems for which the Pd "wacom" object was a
simple wrapper.Steve
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 12:48 PM, João Pais
jmmmpais@googlemail.com wrote: Hello Pd developers and programmers,we - me and Johannes Kreidler for now - wanted to ask if anyone
would be interested in programming a version of Thomas Grill's [wacom] for
windows (and unix, if possible). This external is used to take data from
wacom tablets - so in case anyone else is interested in this please say
something.The features/work would include:
- be compatible with general wacom architecture - and specially
with the Intuos3 (which is the tablet we own)
- take all parameters from the tablet connected
- not forgetting tilt+inclination, touch strips and keys (these
aren't covered by [wintablet])
- put the compiled binaries in a svn folder packaged with Pd
Extended (see below)
- be willing to do some maintenance now and then, specially until
things get stable (after that, I guess the work would be kind of finished)
According to T Grill, the developer(s) that work on this must
register with Wacom as developer(s), so that they have access to the wacon
API. Also, the source code cannot be given away, so they must sign a non-disclosure contract (from what Thomas said, not as complicated
as it sounds). I couldn't find exact information about this, but at http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html might be something
more clear.It would be perfect if someone would be interested in porting the
code just because. In case that doesn't happen, we - me, Johannes
Kreidler and whoever wants to join in - would be interested in giving a small
payment for the work. We're poor people (just like you), so we can't
really pay what a professional programmer should get for the work. In that
case, just get in discussion with us, and we'll see what can be done.Again, if this interests someone else - either as developper or contributor - please forward this mail away.
Best,
João Pais
-- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmpais@googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp
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-
Hans-Christoph Steiner -
Rich E