On Oct 1, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Uğur Güney wrote:

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Who wants to lead their own language? kim istemek -e doğru götürmek onların kendi dil? (umm, yes, these might be silly since they are machine
translations :D )

# This is an awful terrible translation. :-) So the turkish translation can not be leaved to AI's. One should take the responsibility! And I am volunteering for this work. -ugur guney-

Ok, I created it:

http://wiki.puredata.info/tr/

Create an account and tell me what your account name is, and I'll add
it as admin. Also, if you want, we can run the import of the
existing English content into the Turkish pdpedia, if you think that
would be helpful. It would at least lay out the framework.

You can see that content here:

http://wiki.puredata.info/test/Special:Allpages

.hc

On 10/1/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:

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Now we are ready to start setting up sites in whatever language people want. Here's the key: in order to setup a given language, we need at least one volunteer to be the maintainer of that language section. You will then be given "bureaucrat" and "sysop" status so that you can admin that site.

.hc

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Plus imports show up as normal edits, so you can do them at any time,
and if oyu mistakenly overwrite something, it'll be in the history.

.hc

On Oct 1, 2007, at 8:13 PM, marius schebella wrote:

what I did was working with database files. I found it much easier
to edit in one big file than to edit every page. so for
translations, you could use that. there is a way to generate page- textfiles from a csv file and then import them into the wiki. marius.

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

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On Oct 1, 2007, at 3:35 PM, Uğur Güney wrote:

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Who wants to lead their own language? kim istemek -e doğru götürmek onların kendi dil? (umm, yes, these might be silly since they are machine
translations :D )

# This is an awful terrible translation. :-) So the turkish translation can not be leaved to AI's. One should take the responsibility! And I am volunteering for this work. -ugur guney-

Ok, I created it: http://wiki.puredata.info/tr/ Create an account and tell me what your account name is, and I'll
add it as admin. Also, if you want, we can run the import of
the existing English content into the Turkish pdpedia, if you
think that would be helpful. It would at least lay out the
framework. You can see that content here: http://wiki.puredata.info/test/Special:Allpages .hc

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On 10/1/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:

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Now we are ready to start setting up sites in whatever language people want. Here's the key: in order to setup a given
language, we need at least one volunteer to be the maintainer of that language section. You will then be given "bureaucrat" and "sysop" status so that you can admin that site.

.hc

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I would start with the english version, and then translate it bit by bit. you can translate the infobox, then the page structure, and then the sites. you can do translation before you upload the object sites in a database file. you will have colomns with english and can translate from one column to the next. but you also could just leave english text and translate it later online. to setup a wiki for your language you will also have to create wiki specific templates in your language like the infobox and stylesheet (copy and paste from english). marius.

João Miguel Pais wrote:

hi,

is there an "pdpedia administrator for dummies" guide? (if not, I could make one as I go) What are the steps to be made? Should I wait until the english version is more structured and then copy/translate everything? (I wasn't in the discussions and just jumped into this, but I guess that all languages should have the same structure, right?)

Joao

Am 02.10.2007, 03:51 Uhr, schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org:

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Plus imports show up as normal edits, so you can do them at any time, and if oyu mistakenly overwrite something, it'll be in the history.

create a site called Template:Infobox_Objectclass and copy and paste the text from the english http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Template:Infobox_Objectclass into it. then go to http://wiki.puredata.info/en/MediaWiki:Common.css and copy the content to http://wiki.puredata.info/pt/MediaWiki:Common.css that's it. marius.

João Miguel Pais wrote:

Hans was saying something about setting up the infobox, so I think I should wait for him.

meanwhile I created http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Wiki_administrator_how-to. this might be useful to the next guys that decide to join up.

Am 02.10.2007, 14:12 Uhr, schrieb marius schebella marius.schebella@gmail.com:

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I would start with the english version, and then translate it bit by bit. you can translate the infobox, then the page structure, and then the sites. you can do translation before you upload the object sites in a database file. you will have colomns with english and can translate from one column to the next. but you also could just leave english text and translate it later online. to setup a wiki for your language you will also have to create wiki specific templates in your language like the infobox and stylesheet (copy and paste from english). marius.

not all of these fields are used right now, but maybe later. the text in curly brackets{} is only in the background. the text in brackets [] will be displayed in the infobox.

{{{name}}} {{{example_image}}} {{{caption|''caption''}}} [[Description]] {{{description|''description is required''}}} [[Abbreviation]]{{{abbreviation|}}} [[Library]]{{{library|}}} [[Author|Author(s)]]: {{{author|}}} [[Developer|Developer(s)]]{{{developer|}}} [[Release version]]{{{release version|}}} [[Release date]]{{{release date|}}} [[Status]]{{{status|}}} [[Dependencies]]{{{dependencies |}}} [[License]]{{{license|<!---''this text is displayed if License not defined''--->}}} [[Website]]{{{website|<!---''this text is displayed if URL not defined''--->}}} [[Programming Language]]{{{programming language|}}} [[Platform|Platform(s)]]{{{platform|please add supported platforms}}} [[Operating Systems|OS(es)]]{{{operating system|}}} [[Language]]{{{language|}}} [[Genre]]{{{genre|}}} [[Data type|Data type(s)]]{{{data type|}}} [[CPU use index]]{{{cpu use index|}}} [[Helppatch]]{{{helppatch name|}}} [[Distribution(s)]]{{{distributions|}}}

João Miguel Pais wrote:

exactly which text of the infobox page should be translated?

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create a site called Template:Infobox_Objectclass and copy and paste the text from the english http://wiki.puredata.info/en/Template:Infobox_Objectclass into it. then go to http://wiki.puredata.info/en/MediaWiki:Common.css and copy the content to http://wiki.puredata.info/pt/MediaWiki:Common.css

You'll need to use the same terms that you sent for the template
generation. They'll need to have the same case and spacing:

# infobox $name = "Nome"; $description = "Descrição"; $abbreviation = "Abreviatura"; $library = "Bbiblioteca"; $author = "Autor"; $developer = "Programador"; $releaseVersion = "Nº de versão"; $releaseDate = "Data de lançamento"; $dependencies = "Dependências"; $license = "Licença"; $website = "Website"; $programmingLanguage = "Linguagem de programação"; $platform = "Plataforma"; $operatingSystem = "Sistema operativo"; $language = "Linguagem"; $dataType = "Tipo de dado"; $distributions = "Distribuição";

.hc

On Oct 2, 2007, at 11:49 AM, João Miguel Pais wrote:

sorry, but your answer wasn't clear.

there are 2 sections in the file Template:Infobox Objectclass, the
2nd one in the <noinclude> part. Which text from it must be
translated?

• all text?
• text between {{{}}}?
• text between [[]]?
• Urls - {{{ | }}}?
• the "Infobox Objectclass" text?

I know things are just beginning, but it's better to say things
clearly and slowly to be more efficient. That's why I'm documenting
everything in the how-to page. If you want write a line of
translated text in german, and it will be clear.

Joao

Am 02.10.2007, 17:24 Uhr, schrieb marius schebella
marius.schebella@gmail.com:

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not all of these fields are used right now, but maybe later. the text in curly brackets{} is only in the background. the text
in brackets [] will be displayed in the infobox.

{{{name}}} {{{example_image}}} {{{caption|''caption''}}} [[Description]] {{{description|''description is required''}}} [[Abbreviation]]{{{abbreviation|}}} [[Library]]{{{library|}}} [[Author|Author(s)]]: {{{author|}}} [[Developer|Developer(s)]]{{{developer|}}} [[Release version]]{{{release version|}}} [[Release date]]{{{release date|}}} [[Status]]{{{status|}}} [[Dependencies]]{{{dependencies |}}} [[License]]{{{license|<!---''this text is displayed if License not
defined''--->}}} [[Website]]{{{website|<!---''this text is displayed if URL not
defined''--->}}} [[Programming Language]]{{{programming language|}}} [[Platform|Platform(s)]]{{{platform|please add supported platforms}}} [[Operating Systems|OS(es)]]{{{operating system|}}} [[Language]]{{{language|}}} [[Genre]]{{{genre|}}} [[Data type|Data type(s)]]{{{data type|}}} [[CPU use index]]{{{cpu use index|}}} [[Helppatch]]{{{helppatch name|}}} [[Distribution(s)]]{{{distributions|}}}

João Miguel Pais wrote:

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exactly which text of the infobox page should be translated?

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create a site called Template:Infobox_Objectclass and copy and
paste the text from the english http://wiki.puredata.info/en/ Template:Infobox_Objectclass into it. then go to http://wiki.puredata.info/en/MediaWiki:Common.css and copy the content to http://wiki.puredata.info/pt/MediaWiki:Common.css

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