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dears, i am using pd -pdp - pidip since a couple of years, both on macosx and gentoo ppc.
lately i had to change my hard drive, so it happened to me to install the newest version of osx (before i was using panter, osx 3).
instead of X11, i installed xfree from the darwin port.
then i started to struggle around pure data. i tried pd-extended 0.38, the pdp is not working, it doesn't find the quicktime library.
so i went back to the version i was using before, i installed everything following mas o meno sara kolster instructions that you can find here: http://www.umatic.nl/pdp_install.html
plus some more documentation on line and yves installation notes for macosx.
after that, i installed the X11 apple package.
now, if i start pd, and even if i do not try to load the pdp libraries, pd crashes and i get the following error:
tried /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_darwin and succeeded dyld: NSLinkModule() error dyld: Symbol not found: _gluOrtho2D Referenced from: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pdp.pd_darwin Expected in: /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.1.dylib
pd_gui: pd process exited
/Applications/Pd.command: line 3: 6748 Trace/BPT trap
/usr/local/bin/pd -rt
logout
[Process completed]
so i disinstalled xfree, and reinstalled X11 from the apple package. but the error is still there.
yves told me it should be a problem with the x server, rama told me i should find a command for apple to analizeand find symbols,
i am asking the list if is there anyone who installed pdp on macosx 4, and who has it working, which means not only that the library is loaded, but also that you can actually play videos so the xserver works.
at the same time i would like to know if anyone knows this error (i found something already in the lists archive, but it is still not very clear to me what to do)
dyld: Symbol not found: _gluOrtho2D
thanks in advance for your help, looking forward to get in touch with other pd-pdp/macosx users (there are not many or i do not know them)
love
xname.
Hi xname,
xname@scii.nl wrote:
i am asking the list if is there anyone who installed pdp on macosx 4, and who has it working, which means not only that the library is loaded, but also that you can actually play videos so the xserver works.
I got PDP to run with HC's 0.38.4-extended-RC8 installer. Sara Kolster and I used the following instructions for several workshops:
mv pdp_pidip_osx.tar.gz / cd / sudo tar xvfz pdp_pidip_osx.tar.gz cd /usr/local/lib/pd/pdp_pidip_osx cp pdp.pd_darwin /Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC8.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ sudo cp /usr/local/lib/pd/pdp_pidip_osx/fonts/* /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF
The source of this pdp_pidip_osx.tar.gz was:
http://tdegoyon.free.fr/pdp_pidip_osx.tar.gz
I don't know if Yves has updated it since we downloaded it and kept an archival copy. We also used the X11 installer from Apple.
PDP runs and we can do all the direct video synthesis stuff with it. However, I do have problems with Quicktime playback using this, as did quite a few workshop participants. Our "reference" clips, encoded with the PhotoJPEG codec, won't play for me. My guess is that the Apple's Quicktime is to blame, but I haven't spent much time looking into it since we dropped PDP from our workshops simply because it was so much more complicated to get running than GEM, not to mention the cross-platform issues.
If video playback is what you are looking for, I can highly recommend using GEM. Both [pix_film] and [pix_video] are much more reliable and work with much less overhead than PDP does in general on OSX . I'm afraid PDP is another one of those things in the PD world that is much more highly developed for Linux, and also Tom has included a lot of optimizations for Intel architecture in PDP that make me think that running it on a (non-Intel) Mac isn't really the best deal anyway. For example, Sara Kolster's OSX performance patches, which capture and mix a live Firewire cam with prerecorded clips in a total of four buffers, were all made in PDP first and redone later in GEM at less than half the CPU cost.
grtz to the ASCII crew! d.
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hi derek,
thank you for your answer. i spent some time looking at gem, that is good alternative, but for a different kind of performance from what i am doing atm. i am using my own patch mixer, a modified version derived from one by tatiana de la o, that was derived from the vj pacth by lluis gomez.
so, by the time, deformation took place, and identity came out.
i know pdp is not very fast, but the language i am developing with it is quite simple and it does not require high speed: lets say, i often managed to play audio and video from the same machine, a little 12 inches.
though i will have a look at gem soon, to make something out of it.
for public utilities:
i tried the pd-extended you told me, following your instructions: it loads the pdp-pidip library, but crashes (with me) if you try to open a video. actually all the extended versions i tried tend to crash. pd-pdp-pidip, at least in the old installation i made with you, sara, tom and aymeric in montevideo was slow, but it never crashed, not one time in two years of intense use. unless of course if i was loading a video with the wrong codec or something improper like that.
so last night i decided to disinstall everything, and start from zero again.
the problem was xfree in conflict with X11.
the installer from Hans-Christoph Steiner works on mac osx 4, and pdp as well.
i have it running now, with my patch.
it took me quite a while, but i can assure it is possible to install it and Sara Kolster instructions are not yet out of date: i found them very handy (thanks :*)
so, i am quite happy, time to go for a walk in my home town, its a sunny hot day :D see you soon, let me know when are you around amsterdam, maybe we can do something nice in ascii.
ciao ciao
xname.
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 12:18:40AM +0200, derek holzer wrote:
Hi xname,
xname@scii.nl wrote:
i am asking the list if is there anyone who installed pdp on macosx 4, and who has it working, which means not only that the library is loaded, but also that you can actually play videos so the xserver works.
I got PDP to run with HC's 0.38.4-extended-RC8 installer. Sara Kolster and I used the following instructions for several workshops:
mv pdp_pidip_osx.tar.gz / cd / sudo tar xvfz pdp_pidip_osx.tar.gz cd /usr/local/lib/pd/pdp_pidip_osx cp pdp.pd_darwin /Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC8.app/Contents/Resources/extra/ sudo cp /usr/local/lib/pd/pdp_pidip_osx/fonts/* /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TTF
The source of this pdp_pidip_osx.tar.gz was:
http://tdegoyon.free.fr/pdp_pidip_osx.tar.gz
I don't know if Yves has updated it since we downloaded it and kept an archival copy. We also used the X11 installer from Apple.
PDP runs and we can do all the direct video synthesis stuff with it. However, I do have problems with Quicktime playback using this, as did quite a few workshop participants. Our "reference" clips, encoded with the PhotoJPEG codec, won't play for me. My guess is that the Apple's Quicktime is to blame, but I haven't spent much time looking into it since we dropped PDP from our workshops simply because it was so much more complicated to get running than GEM, not to mention the cross-platform issues.
If video playback is what you are looking for, I can highly recommend using GEM. Both [pix_film] and [pix_video] are much more reliable and work with much less overhead than PDP does in general on OSX . I'm afraid PDP is another one of those things in the PD world that is much more highly developed for Linux, and also Tom has included a lot of optimizations for Intel architecture in PDP that make me think that running it on a (non-Intel) Mac isn't really the best deal anyway. For example, Sara Kolster's OSX performance patches, which capture and mix a live Firewire cam with prerecorded clips in a total of four buffers, were all made in PDP first and redone later in GEM at less than half the CPU cost.
grtz to the ASCII crew! d.
-- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 83: "How would someone else do it?"
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