If you remove the gem package, you also can't install all the gem-plugins that you may want to be managed by apt-get
That's my question: On Linux, installing Gem via Deken is not enough, we need installing it with "apt-get".
Goal: I want to know the installation process in order to compress a Pd project for other computers with no need steps of installation. I hope it is possible to share Pd projects using Gem with just .zip directory.
Thx j
On 09/27/2017 05:47 PM, abel.jerome@free.fr wrote:
On Linux, installing Gem via Deken is not enough, we need installing it with "apt-get".
hopefully there is no deken package for Gem on linux. (i see that it has been uploaded as part of the pdx batch-backport; it should be removed).
gfamdsr IOhannes
On 2017년 09월 28일 08:20, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
On 09/27/2017 05:47 PM, abel.jerome@free.fr wrote:
On Linux, installing Gem via Deken is not enough, we need installing it with "apt-get".
hopefully there is no deken package for Gem on linux. (i see that it has been uploaded as part of the pdx batch-backport; it should be removed).
Well, in theory the gem on deken could be a different (newer) version then the one coming through the package management, especially if you are on a release based distribution like ubuntu, mint, etc.
The reality though it that it's actually an older one in deken: Gem-v-0.0.extended-(Linux-i386-32(Linux-amd64-64-externals.tar.gz Uploaded by ch15m @ 2015-08-07
vs. the one in the repositories: GEM: ver: 0.93.3 GEM: compiled: Nov 11 2015
On 09/28/2017 06:33 PM, Max wrote:
Well, in theory the gem on deken could be a different (newer) version then the one coming through the package management, especially if you are on a release based distribution like ubuntu, mint, etc.
so?
as the maintainer of Gem i'm pretty well aware of it's dependency chain and as a co-developer of deken i firmly believe that it is not up to handling such things.
gfamrds IOhannes
On 2017년 09월 28일 19:36, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
On 09/28/2017 06:33 PM, Max wrote:
Well, in theory the gem on deken could be a different (newer) version then the one coming through the package management, especially if you are on a release based distribution like ubuntu, mint, etc.
so?
as the maintainer of Gem i'm pretty well aware of it's dependency chain and as a co-developer of deken i firmly believe that it is not up to handling such things.
understood.
that only is true for gem on linux though, because there is no system package management on win/osx. Maybe it would be a good idea to make a message appear: "Please install Gem via the package manager (apt,yum, etc)" if people search for Gem in deken. So that poor linux beginners don't get too frustrated when they follow some random tutorial by an apple/ms user how to install Pd/Gem.
my 0.5ct
This is news to me. I thought deken was now the way to install gem regardless of platform. I see a LOT of new users attempting this and struggling. I also know that people coming from extended are being told they should use deken. Gem is often one of the first things extended users try to install via deken. I imagine this could be at the root of a lot of people just going straight back to extended.
I agree that it really should be removed from deken repos asap if that isn't a good way to get it running.
On Sep 28, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Max abonnements@revolwear.com wrote:
On 2017년 09월 28일 19:36, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:
On 09/28/2017 06:33 PM, Max wrote:
Well, in theory the gem on deken could be a different (newer) version then the one coming through the package management, especially if you are on a release based distribution like ubuntu, mint, etc.
so? as the maintainer of Gem i'm pretty well aware of it's dependency chain and as a co-developer of deken i firmly believe that it is not up to handling such things.
understood.
that only is true for gem on linux though, because there is no system package management on win/osx. Maybe it would be a good idea to make a message appear: "Please install Gem via the package manager (apt,yum, etc)" if people search for Gem in deken. So that poor linux beginners don't get too frustrated when they follow some random tutorial by an apple/ms user how to install Pd/Gem.
my 0.5ct
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