Hello HC Steiner, where can I find this mapping library for OSX??
I have been working in two new instruments and that library could be really helpfull. Your paper is a good reflection of the situation of people making new instruments...
below is a normalizer or autoscale as you call it in your paper that takes input values 0 - n. If you have some time to see it, let me know what you think of it, for I am using it all around the place and maybe it could be optimized. (below that are two abstractions it needs to work).
have a good day,
Jaime
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It's included in the Pd-extended builds 0.39.2 or newer. The library
is called "mapping". These objects are in the same spirit as the
mapping objects, like [autoscale] , [track_min], and [track_max].
Plus cyclone has [minimum] and [maximum], which are very close to the
built-in [min] and [max] IIRC. These ones duplicate ones we already
have, but we are interested in contributions.
Right now, we are building a collection of every kind of mapping
object we can think of. After a bit, we'll look and see if natural
categories are forming.
.hc
On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
Hello HC Steiner, where can I find this mapping library for OSX??
I have been working in two new instruments and that library could be really helpfull. Your paper is a good reflection of the situation of people making new instruments...
below is a normalizer or autoscale as you call it in your paper that takes input values 0 - n. If you have some time to see it, let me know what you think of it, for I am using it all around the place and maybe it could be optimized. (below that are two abstractions it needs to work).
have a good day,
Jaime
Mother patch "norm"
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abstraction "maximum"
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Can I make it work with Pd 0.40-1 or only with the extended builds?
thanks,
Jaime
On 2/1/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
It's included in the Pd-extended builds 0.39.2 or newer. The library is called "mapping". These objects are in the same spirit as the mapping objects, like [autoscale] , [track_min], and [track_max]. Plus cyclone has [minimum] and [maximum], which are very close to the built-in [min] and [max] IIRC. These ones duplicate ones we already have, but we are interested in contributions.
Right now, we are building a collection of every kind of mapping object we can think of. After a bit, we'll look and see if natural categories are forming.
.hc
On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
Hello HC Steiner, where can I find this mapping library for OSX??
I have been working in two new instruments and that library could be really helpfull. Your paper is a good reflection of the situation of people making new instruments...
below is a normalizer or autoscale as you call it in your paper that takes input values 0 - n. If you have some time to see it, let me know what you think of it, for I am using it all around the place and maybe it could be optimized. (below that are two abstractions it needs to work).
have a good day,
Jaime
Mother patch "norm"
#N canvas 688 157 155 248 10; #X obj 72 9 inlet; #X obj 7 10 inlet; #X obj 71 36 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 8 96 -; #X obj 46 96 -; #X obj 7 123 / 0; #X floatatom 7 150 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 6 173 outlet; #X floatatom 42 126 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 86 124 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X text 1 198 assumes input >= 0; #X obj 34 63 minmax; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 11 0; #X connect 2 0 11 1; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 4 0 5 1; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 11 0 3 1; #X connect 11 0 4 1; #X connect 11 0 8 0; #X connect 11 1 4 0; #X connect 11 1 9 0;
abstraction "minmax"
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abstraction "maximum"
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On 02/02/2007, at 10.43, Jaime Oliver wrote:
Can I make it work with Pd 0.40-1 or only with the extended builds?
Looking at the CVS home of mapping[1], it tells that there is no
externals in the lib, only abstractions as there is only .pd files in
there, no .c(pp) or the like. Attached is a list of objs used in the
mapping lib (made with grep, cut, sort, uniq). It shows that it (the
mapping lib) at least uses pol2cart and cart2pol from zexy, besides
using float_argument and symbol_argument from purepd. purepd is
placed in the abstactions section of cvs so i guess it's fair to
assume it doesn't use any externals. But you anyways need zexy to use
the mapping objects cartesian and vector.
[1] http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/externals/mapping/
Thanks for generating this list.
As I posted before, I think that it's very important to start including the [import needed_external] with every help patch that requires it. Perhaps this is something that can be contained in the Pd-meta subpatches that I (vaguely from my away-from-pd day job) recall seeing in various help docs?
~Kyle
On 2/2/07, Steffen stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 02/02/2007, at 10.43, Jaime Oliver wrote:
Can I make it work with Pd 0.40-1 or only with the extended builds?
Looking at the CVS home of mapping[1], it tells that there is no externals in the lib, only abstractions as there is only .pd files in there, no .c(pp) or the like. Attached is a list of objs used in the mapping lib (made with grep, cut, sort, uniq). It shows that it (the mapping lib) at least uses pol2cart and cart2pol from zexy, besides using float_argument and symbol_argument from purepd. purepd is placed in the abstactions section of cvs so i guess it's fair to assume it doesn't use any externals. But you anyways need zexy to use the mapping objects cartesian and vector.
[1] http://pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net/pure-data/externals/mapping/
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What would be really sweet would be to mod that script to have a search function that matches against a pd-vanilla object list, and if the object is not included, find what library it needs, then add an [import needed_object] to the required help file.
That would make it so that the -lib command would be fairly obsolete, if a help file is loaded first. This would be great for Pd-extended users who might be exploring the documentation browser and want 'plug-n-play' lib action.
~Kyle
On 2/2/07, Steffen stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 02/02/2007, at 16.31, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
Thanks for generating this list.
No problem, it's essentially just a one-liner - attached as a bash script.
Hallo!
What would be really sweet would be to mod that script to have a search function that matches against a pd-vanilla object list, and if the object is not included, find what library it needs, then add an [import needed_object] to the required help file.
Yes, good idea - but it won't work in a perfect way, because of various nameclashes in externals ...
LG Georg
Hallo, Georg Holzmann hat gesagt: // Georg Holzmann wrote:
What would be really sweet would be to mod that script to have a search function that matches against a pd-vanilla object list, and if the object is not included, find what library it needs, then add an [import needed_object] to the required help file.
Yes, good idea - but it won't work in a perfect way, because of various nameclashes in externals ...
At least the external [import] doesn't nameclash AFAIK. ;)
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
this mapping thing is something like the FUN equations of the kurzweil k2000 ?
if so that will save me some work, cos i was gonna convert all the FUN equations to pd files.
What are the FUN equations? Do you have any info on them?
.hc
On Feb 4, 2007, at 6:30 AM, hard off wrote:
this mapping thing is something like the FUN equations of the
kurzweil k2000 ?if so that will save me some work, cos i was gonna convert all the FUN equations to pd files.
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Yeah, it should be that way, it's mostly a matter of someone doing
the work. The PDDP group is just finalizing the help file template,
then we can start porting existing help files to it, including the
required [import] statements.
.hc
On Feb 2, 2007, at 4:18 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
What would be really sweet would be to mod that script to have a search function that matches against a pd-vanilla object list, and if the object is not included, find what library it needs, then add an [import needed_object] to the required help file.
That would make it so that the -lib command would be fairly obsolete, if a help file is loaded first. This would be great for Pd-extended users who might be exploring the documentation browser and want 'plug-n-play' lib action.
~Kyle
On 2/2/07, Steffen stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 02/02/2007, at 16.31, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
Thanks for generating this list.
No problem, it's essentially just a one-liner - attached as a bash script.
--
http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com
(((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO
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If help is needed, please let me know what I can do to help with the PDDP project. I'm not a coder, but I would love to help clean up Pd's documentation. It would also give me some technical writing practice ;-).
~Kyle
On 2/5/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
Yeah, it should be that way, it's mostly a matter of someone doing the work. The PDDP group is just finalizing the help file template, then we can start porting existing help files to it, including the required [import] statements.
.hc
On Feb 2, 2007, at 4:18 PM, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
What would be really sweet would be to mod that script to have a search function that matches against a pd-vanilla object list, and if the object is not included, find what library it needs, then add an [import needed_object] to the required help file.
That would make it so that the -lib command would be fairly obsolete, if a help file is loaded first. This would be great for Pd-extended users who might be exploring the documentation browser and want 'plug-n-play' lib action.
~Kyle
On 2/2/07, Steffen stffn@dibidut.dk wrote:
On 02/02/2007, at 16.31, Kyle Klipowicz wrote:
Thanks for generating this list.
No problem, it's essentially just a one-liner - attached as a bash script.
--
http://theradioproject.com http://perhapsidid.blogspot.com
(((())))(()()((((((((()())))()(((((((())()()())()))) (())))))(()))))))))))))(((((((((((()()))))))))((()))) ))(((((((((((())))())))))))))))))))__________ _____())))))(((((((((((((()))))))))))_______ ((((((())))))))))))((((((((000)))oOOOOOO
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It's all written in Pd, so it should work with any version from the
past couple years.
.hc
On Feb 2, 2007, at 4:43 AM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
Can I make it work with Pd 0.40-1 or only with the extended builds?
thanks,
Jaime
On 2/1/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote:
It's included in the Pd-extended builds 0.39.2 or newer. The library is called "mapping". These objects are in the same spirit as the mapping objects, like [autoscale] , [track_min], and [track_max]. Plus cyclone has [minimum] and [maximum], which are very close to the built-in [min] and [max] IIRC. These ones duplicate ones we already have, but we are interested in contributions.
Right now, we are building a collection of every kind of mapping object we can think of. After a bit, we'll look and see if natural categories are forming.
.hc
On Feb 1, 2007, at 5:38 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote:
Hello HC Steiner, where can I find this mapping library for OSX??
I have been working in two new instruments and that library
could be
really helpfull. Your paper is a good reflection of the
situation of
people making new instruments...
below is a normalizer or autoscale as you call it in your paper
that
takes input values 0 - n. If you have some time to see it, let
me know
what you think of it, for I am using it all around the place and
maybe
it could be optimized. (below that are two abstractions it needs to work).
have a good day,
Jaime
Mother patch "norm"
#N canvas 688 157 155 248 10; #X obj 72 9 inlet; #X obj 7 10 inlet; #X obj 71 36 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 8 96 -; #X obj 46 96 -; #X obj 7 123 / 0; #X floatatom 7 150 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 6 173 outlet; #X floatatom 42 126 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 86 124 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X text 1 198 assumes input >= 0; #X obj 34 63 minmax; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 11 0; #X connect 2 0 11 1; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 4 0 5 1; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 7 0; #X connect 11 0 3 1; #X connect 11 0 4 1; #X connect 11 0 8 0; #X connect 11 1 4 0; #X connect 11 1 9 0;
abstraction "minmax"
#N canvas 143 22 146 291 10; #X obj 86 11 inlet; #X obj 42 11 inlet; #X obj 86 32 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 42 52 maximum; #X obj 11 81 -; #X obj 10 205 outlet; #X obj 59 205 outlet; #X obj 10 107 abs; #X obj 10 130 maximum; #X obj 9 154 -; #X obj 9 177 abs; #X text 12 230 min; #X text 64 230 max; #X floatatom 9 250 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 60 249 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 7 43 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 86 109 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 78 170 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X connect 0 0 2 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 4 0; #X connect 1 0 15 0; #X connect 2 0 3 1; #X connect 2 0 8 1; #X connect 3 0 4 1; #X connect 3 0 6 0; #X connect 3 0 9 1; #X connect 3 0 14 0; #X connect 3 0 16 0; #X connect 4 0 7 0; #X connect 7 0 8 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 8 0 17 0; #X connect 9 0 10 0; #X connect 10 0 5 0; #X connect 10 0 13 0;
abstraction "maximum"
#N canvas 475 22 151 200 10; #X obj 77 6 inlet; #X obj 7 8 inlet; #X floatatom 6 35 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 7 85 >; #X floatatom 8 113 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 9 137 sel 1 0; #X obj 9 159 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X floatatom 78 111 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 76 28 0; #X obj 7 55 t f f; #X obj 78 87 f; #X obj 78 143 outlet; #X connect 0 0 8 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 9 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 4 0 5 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 6 0 10 0; #X connect 7 0 3 1; #X connect 7 0 11 0; #X connect 8 0 3 1; #X connect 9 0 3 0; #X connect 9 1 10 1; #X connect 10 0 7 0;
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