today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this.
now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent.
further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
best hans
open an issue on github https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues I'll do it
Em sex., 25 de jun. de 2021 às 16:30, hans w. koch hansw.koch@gmail.com escreveu:
today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this.
now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent.
further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
best hans
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went ahead and did it. (didn´´t find a way to add a label for documentation though) https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1345
Am 25.06.2021 um 22:11 schrieb Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com:
open an issue on github https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues I'll do it
Em sex., 25 de jun. de 2021 às 16:30, hans w. koch hansw.koch@gmail.com escreveu: today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this.
now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent.
further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
best hans
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or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
This.
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
Christof
On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote:
today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this.
now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent.
further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
best hans
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Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double"
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On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
This.
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
Christof
On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote:
today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this.
now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent.
further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
best hans
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I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double"
d'oh. I didn't catch that.
On 25.06.2021 22:41, Lucas Cordiviola wrote:
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double"
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On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
This.
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
Christof
On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote:
today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this.
now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent.
further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
best hans
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yes, i am already using pd double. not every object is double ready though in my experience. sometimes hard to tell apart...
@alexandre: thanks for the offer to file a feature request for the helpfile change. i can do it too, but wasn´t sure if i should flood the long list with this trivia.
best hans
Am 25.06.2021 um 22:41 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double"
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On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
This.
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
Christof
On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote:
today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this.
now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent.
further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
best hans
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not every object is double ready though in my experience.
It would be very useful if you tell whats not ready. Either here on the "list" or issues on https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues
:)
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On 6/25/2021 6:01 PM, hans w. koch wrote:
yes, i am already using pd double. not every object is double ready though in my experience. sometimes hard to tell apart...
@alexandre: thanks for the offer to file a feature request for the helpfile change. i can do it too, but wasn´t sure if i should flood the long list with this trivia.
best hans
Am 25.06.2021 um 22:41 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double"
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On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
This.
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
Christof
On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote:
today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this.
now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent.
further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
best hans
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yes, of course :-) i stated here for [div] and [mod]: https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2020-09/128152.html and on git: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1150
Am 25.06.2021 um 23:20 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
not every object is double ready though in my experience.
It would be very useful if you tell whats not ready. Either here on the "list" or issues on https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues
:)
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On 6/25/2021 6:01 PM, hans w. koch wrote:
yes, i am already using pd double. not every object is double ready though in my experience. sometimes hard to tell apart...
@alexandre: thanks for the offer to file a feature request for the helpfile change. i can do it too, but wasn´t sure if i should flood the long list with this trivia.
best hans
Am 25.06.2021 um 22:41 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double"
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On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
This.
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
Christof
On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote:
today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this.
now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent.
further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
best hans
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thumbs up.
:)
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On 6/25/2021 6:28 PM, hans w. koch wrote:
yes, of course :-) i stated here for [div] and [mod]: https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2020-09/128152.html and on git: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues/1150
Am 25.06.2021 um 23:20 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
not every object is double ready though in my experience.
It would be very useful if you tell whats not ready. Either here on the "list" or issues on https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/issues
:)
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On 6/25/2021 6:01 PM, hans w. koch wrote:
yes, i am already using pd double. not every object is double ready though in my experience. sometimes hard to tell apart...
@alexandre: thanks for the offer to file a feature request for the helpfile change. i can do it too, but wasn´t sure if i should flood the long list with this trivia.
best hans
Am 25.06.2021 um 22:41 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola lucarda27@hotmail.com:
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
I might be missing something but Hans said he was using "vanilla double"
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On 6/25/2021 5:30 PM, Christof Ressi wrote:
or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
This.
Also, all numbers in Pd are 32-bit floats while all numbers in JS are 64-bit doubles.
Christof
On 25.06.2021 21:27, hans w. koch wrote:
today to my amazement, i discovered, that the midi decimals in mtof equal cents :-) sorry, for stating the obvious. better late then never, at least for me…i literally hit my head when i recognized this. i´ve searched the archives for "mtof cents” and didn´t find a mention of this.
now that i´ve outed myself as a dummie, forward on with one suggestion: wouldn´t it be helpful for future slowfoxes like me, to mention that somehow in mtofs helpfile? at the moment it reads: You can specify microtonal pitches as in "69.5" (a quarter tone higher than 69). my suggestion would be to add: The decimals specify cents as in .01 = 1 cent.
further question: i am working in a recent pd vanilla double and was expecting to see more decimals e.g. pd: 69.031 into mtof gives 440.789 javascript: 440 + 3.1 cent gives: 440.78858311490677 its not that i would claim to hear a difference between 440.789 and 440.7885 hz, but i could imagine cases, where working further these roundings accumulate. or maybe another case of limitation on the display-side of things?
best hans
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