Frank,

Thanks for the attachment. You're right about the block~ size; I was thinking about if you wanted to later use it in recursive delay networks, but I had forgotten that an abstraction will block~ to its parent patch (yes?).

As a note, to make it compatible with earlier versions of PD, you can't embed $0 in the middle of a symbol -- to send a message to pd-$0-name you have to use [makefilename] or some such (this would currently be important for users of the vanilla subset within extended, say under planetccrma).

Thanks,

Matt

Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2008 11:24:34 +0200 From: Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org Subject: Re: [PD] Cyclone in vanilla? To: pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 20080423092434.GJ9293@fliwatut.scifi Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hallo, Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote:

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Actually, for those of us who insist on vanilla and do everything with expr/expr~/fexpr~ or abstractions, is it possible to implement [z~] in fexpr~ for a delay larger than its vector size? You could do it with an abstraction using [delwrite~] and [delread~], setting the [block~] to 1, and then set the delay as a ratio to the [samplerate~] -- the difficulty in making it work correctly here is setting the size of the [delwrite~] efficiently (this could maybe be done with a loadbang routine that would send a message to a subpatch in the abstraction instance to add and connect a delwrite~ with the proper delay allocation...).

You don't need to set the block~-size to 1, and personally I would just make the delwrite~ "big enough". It's cheap to store things in a delay. But anyway, attached is a z~-clone with delwrite~/delread~ that uses a helper abstraction created dynamically.

Ciao

Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__