Hi List,
I'm looking for something suitable to use in developing generative audio-visual pieces that I can distribute as CDROMs.
At the moment, I'm using Macromedia Director, which does the job, but has rather limited A-V capabilities. I'd also rather not use a piece of proprietary software.
Whilst considering other options, such as C++/DirectX, Java and "Processing" (www.Proce55ing.net), I stumbled across PD, and noticed the following comments by Guenter, in a recent thread :
The ultimate goal would be to be able to build your director-like GUI within pd directly. .. or implement a flashplayer etc .. :)
PD/GEM looks like an incredibly flexible and powerful A-V development environment, but am I right in thinking you need both installed and configured on a target machine in order to run a completed patch/abstraction?
If so, are there any plans to develop a PD "Projector" or equivalent, so that performances can be played on machines that don't have PD installed?
Forgive me if any of the above seems idiotic, but your comments, nevertheless, would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Richard Skelton
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Hallo, Richard Skelton hat gesagt: // Richard Skelton wrote:
PD/GEM looks like an incredibly flexible and powerful A-V development environment, but am I right in thinking you need both installed and configured on a target machine in order to run a completed patch/abstraction?
You need a rather complete Pd, there is no "Pd runtime" like there is a Max/MSP runtime. Most peeps here don't see this as a problem (I suppose), because Pd is free software and can thus be distributed freely. Just include Pd in your CD-ROMs in versions for the popular operating systems Win, Mac and Linux. You can run Pd completely from CD, and with things like Knoppix you don't even need to have an OS installed.
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
What kind of functionality are you actually looking for? I think most visual libs will cause audio glitches so you may need to have two PDs running simultaneously communicating to one and other.
There are libs such as PDP-PiDiP (2D video centric) Gem (OpenGL centric) Gridflow (2D/ matrix centric). This may not all run on all PD OSs!
Good luck.
Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Skelton" Richard.Skelton@bainesandernst.com To: pd-list@iem.at Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:20 AM Subject: [PD] PD "Projector", Executables or similar
Hi List,
I'm looking for something suitable to use in developing generative audio-visual pieces that I can distribute as CDROMs.
At the moment, I'm using Macromedia Director, which does the job, but has rather limited A-V capabilities. I'd also rather not use a piece of proprietary software.
Whilst considering other options, such as C++/DirectX, Java and
"Processing"
(www.Proce55ing.net), I stumbled across PD, and noticed the following comments by Guenter, in a recent thread :
The ultimate goal would be to be able to build your director-like GUI within pd directly. .. or implement a flashplayer etc .. :)
PD/GEM looks like an incredibly flexible and powerful A-V development environment, but am I right in thinking you need both installed and configured on a target machine in order to run a completed patch/abstraction?
If so, are there any plans to develop a PD "Projector" or equivalent, so that performances can be played on machines that don't have PD installed?
Forgive me if any of the above seems idiotic, but your comments, nevertheless, would be appreciated.
Many thanks
Richard Skelton
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On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 11:28:45AM -0500, B. Bogart wrote:
There are libs such as PDP-PiDiP (2D video centric) Gem (OpenGL centric) Gridflow (2D/ matrix centric). This may not all run on all PD OSs!
Richard Skelton wrote:
I'm looking for something suitable to use in developing generative audio-visual pieces that I can distribute as CDROMs.
You could go Linux and distribute your project as a "live cd", using Knoppix (based on Debian). But it would work only on PCs and you need to know your Linux.
Here's an interesting article about Knoppix remastering:
http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2003/11/20/knoppix.html
And the HOWTO:
http://www.knoppix.net/docs/index.php/KnoppixRemasteringHowto
Probably the easiest (and smallest) Knoppix derivative to start with: http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
For fullscreen support, the ratpoison window manager is great: http://ratpoison.sf.net/
The nice thing about this solution is that you don't need to care much about the configuration of the target PC, at least for a while, and as long as your work doesn't require an OpenGL accelerated card (because of all those proprietary drivers). It's perfect for public kiosks and installations, without much technical support. It can be installed to run directly from a hard drive. The best part is that it's free (as in software), so no problem with distribution.
-- Marc
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