Frank Barknecht wrote:
Acutally except for numeric symbols and for the "whitespace symbols" [keyname] sometime generates one doesn't meet "strange symbols" a lot in real life, so it's not a real issue in practice.
One doesn't meet those strange symbols in real life, and it's because those symbols are a real issue in practice, so, people avoid them carefully.
The reason you call those symbols strange, is because of the way that pd handles them; it's not because of their own characteristics.
I agree with Mathieu.
Maybe one doesn't meet (or even need) those symbols *a lot*, but that would only imply that is not a *big* issue, not that it is not a *real* one.
Also, it should be up to the programmer/user (I mean the PD user) to choose whether s/he needs or not to use them.
If there are things that PD can load from a patch but cannot save, I think that is an issue that should be corrected.
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Hallo, Matteo Sisti Sette hat gesagt: // Matteo Sisti Sette wrote:
Maybe one doesn't meet (or even need) those symbols *a lot*, but that would only imply that is not a *big* issue, not that it is not a *real* one.
That's what I meant: To me it's not a big issue. I think I've never felt the need to use a these numeric symbols in my Pd patching life, and I don't think I'm doing much different things than other Pd users. So solving that issue is not high on my wishlist. Other things however are.
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sorry if i haven't followed this discussion properly,
but i have had trouble with making abstractions that can take either a symbol or float as an argument.
the only way i could manage was to make a (f $1) object and a (symbol $1) object...and then direct them both to (list2symbol)
but it gives errors in the pd window.
hard off wrote:
sorry if i haven't followed this discussion properly,
but i have had trouble with making abstractions that can take either a symbol or float as an argument.
the only way i could manage was to make a (f $1) object and a (symbol $1) object...and then direct them both to (list2symbol)
[list append $1] | [list trim]
Hallo, Claude Heiland-Allen hat gesagt: // Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
hard off wrote:
sorry if i haven't followed this discussion properly,
but i have had trouble with making abstractions that can take either a symbol or float as an argument.
the only way i could manage was to make a (f $1) object and a (symbol $1) object...and then direct them both to (list2symbol)
[list append $1] | [list trim]
I'd say minus the [list trim], though. However this isn't related to numeric symbols as generated by makefilename. I'll have to admit that I wanted to use this as well in the past, when I wanted to label a [cnv] with just a number. But with makefilename it works.
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