This will probably seem like a newbie question to some, but let me declare first that I've been using PD-extended for a long time, and I did search for an answer to my question on the list archives and on the pure-data.info site. There is a lot of conflicting and out-of-date information so it's difficult to get an answer.

My understanding is that with PD-extended dead, it is desirable to move to using PD-Vanilla and use deken to find and download libraries. I get that. I am utterly confused about how to make this work.

The OSX PD vanilla is a packaged app, which I assume goes in the "Applications" folder. (Do correct me if I got this wrong.) The package contents have no "lib" or "extra" or other folders, and this suggests that it's not where the packages should go.

There are some documentation references that tell to install libraries in ~/Library/Pd. I've done that, but no matter what I put in "Preferences->Path" and "Preferences->Startup", nothing seems to get found.

For "Preferences->Path", I select "new" and then navigate to a folder (e.g. ~/Library/Pd/libdir). That sticks.

For "Preferences->Startup", I select "new" and then type something such as "-lib libdir" (quotes not included, obviously).

I have installed deken, which works because it finds and downloads packages.

Here's what I get in the console:

-lib libdir: can't load library -lib Gem: can't load library -lib zexy: can't load library -lib creb: can't load library -lib pmpd: can't load library -lib bsaylor: can't load library -lib cream: can't load library -lib HOAlib: can't load library deken-plugin.tcl (Pd externals search) in /Users/martindupras/Library/Pd/deken-plugin loaded. Platform detected: Darwin-x86_64-32bit 'deken-plugin.tcl' already loaded, ignoring: '/Users/martindupras/Library/Pd/deken-plugin/deken-plugin.tcl'

I am confused.

Can anyone clarify? Or point me to recent and detailed explanations?

Many thanks!

• martin