Hello all,
I'd like to set up a meeting for the discussion around the PD documentation. This is an especially interesting time considering the max vs pd thread on this list.
Documentation includes:
- Workshops (PD curriculum)
- Help Patches (PDDP)
- Manuals
- How PD relates to networks and physical media
Anything else that serves as newbie access to the world of Pure-Data+.
When?
Tuesday November 22nd @ 9.00 Pacific Time 12.00 Eastern Time 17.00 UTC 18.00 Central European
Please let us know if you would like to make it but can't do that date. Miller can you make it?
Where?
#dataflow on irc.freenode.net
Who should attend?
Anyone who has taught a PD workshop. Anyone who has attended a workshop that they know could be improved. Anyone who would like to develop standards around how documentation works. Anyhow who wants to contribute to documentation or coding to make documentation better (pddplink etc..)
Agenda:
What steps have been made?
Discussion about the wiki pages below.
Philosophy
- How PD should be taught.
- Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
PDDP changes
- Template for help-patches (ready)
- Template for all_about (unchanged)
- Template for tutorials (new)
- Template for GUI elements
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
- Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
- "Help" menu
Structure of a future wiki to separate the different aspects of the
project.
This list is a starting point that runs over many of the Documentation issues. I don't think we'll figure out a lot of these things, just casting the net and trolling for ideas. There are other issues not mentioned here either.
Required Reading: (Check out before you come!)
- https://puredata.org/docs/workshops/FrontPage/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDWorkshops/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDDocumentationStructure/
Thanks all, hope to see you there.
b.
how about on the access grid instead?
On Nov 18, 2005, at 5:38 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hello all,
I'd like to set up a meeting for the discussion around the PD documentation. This is an especially interesting time considering the max vs pd thread on this list.
Documentation includes:
- Workshops (PD curriculum)
- Help Patches (PDDP)
- Manuals
- How PD relates to networks and physical media
Anything else that serves as newbie access to the world of Pure-Data+.
When?
Tuesday November 22nd @ 9.00 Pacific Time 12.00 Eastern Time 17.00 UTC 18.00 Central European
Please let us know if you would like to make it but can't do that date. Miller can you make it?
Where?
#dataflow on irc.freenode.net
Who should attend?
Anyone who has taught a PD workshop. Anyone who has attended a workshop that they know could be improved. Anyone who would like to develop standards around how documentation works. Anyhow who wants to contribute to documentation or coding to make documentation better (pddplink etc..)
Agenda:
What steps have been made?
Discussion about the wiki pages below.
Philosophy
- How PD should be taught.
- Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
PDDP changes
- Template for help-patches (ready)
- Template for all_about (unchanged)
- Template for tutorials (new)
- Template for GUI elements
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
- Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
- "Help" menu
Structure of a future wiki to separate the different aspects of the
project.
This list is a starting point that runs over many of the Documentation issues. I don't think we'll figure out a lot of these things, just casting the net and trolling for ideas. There are other issues not mentioned here either.
Required Reading: (Check out before you come!)
- https://puredata.org/docs/workshops/FrontPage/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDWorkshops/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDDocumentationStructure/
Thanks all, hope to see you there.
b.
PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082
Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082
Hi Pat,
I will not be in the lab on that day, and somhow I think only You, Miller and I would have access to it...
.b.
Patrick Pagano wrote:
how about on the access grid instead?
On Nov 18, 2005, at 5:38 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hello all,
I'd like to set up a meeting for the discussion around the PD documentation. This is an especially interesting time considering the max vs pd thread on this list.
Documentation includes:
- Workshops (PD curriculum)
- Help Patches (PDDP)
- Manuals
- How PD relates to networks and physical media
Anything else that serves as newbie access to the world of Pure-Data+.
When?
Tuesday November 22nd @ 9.00 Pacific Time 12.00 Eastern Time 17.00 UTC 18.00 Central European
Please let us know if you would like to make it but can't do that date. Miller can you make it?
Where?
#dataflow on irc.freenode.net
Who should attend?
Anyone who has taught a PD workshop. Anyone who has attended a workshop that they know could be improved. Anyone who would like to develop standards around how documentation works. Anyhow who wants to contribute to documentation or coding to make documentation better (pddplink etc..)
Agenda:
What steps have been made?
Discussion about the wiki pages below.
Philosophy
- How PD should be taught.
- Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
PDDP changes
- Template for help-patches (ready)
- Template for all_about (unchanged)
- Template for tutorials (new)
- Template for GUI elements
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
- Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
- "Help" menu
Structure of a future wiki to separate the different aspects of the
project.
This list is a starting point that runs over many of the Documentation issues. I don't think we'll figure out a lot of these things, just casting the net and trolling for ideas. There are other issues not mentioned here either.
Required Reading: (Check out before you come!)
- https://puredata.org/docs/workshops/FrontPage/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDWorkshops/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDDocumentationStructure/
Thanks all, hope to see you there.
b.
PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082
Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082
PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, B. Bogart wrote:
I will not be in the lab on that day, and somhow I think only You, Miller and I would have access to it... Patrick Pagano wrote:
how about on the access grid instead?
Right. The Access Grid is not particularly accessible. It's a high-tech high-cost solution reserved to some universities and some research centres.
IRC, on the other hand, is a low-bandwidth protocol invented in 1988, standardized by IETF, and supported by hundreds of programs on many OSes and which can run on a 9600 bps modem if that's all one has.
Text-based meetings also have several advantages over audio-based meetings, such that several conversations can happen at once and so it's easy to take your time saying something without disturbing anyone. With text, no-one is fighting for the microphone.
Mathieu Bouchard - tél:+1.514.383.3801 - http://artengine.ca/matju Freelance Digital Arts Engineer, Montréal QC Canada
On Nov 19, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, B. Bogart wrote:
I will not be in the lab on that day, and somhow I think only You, Miller and I would have access to it... Patrick Pagano wrote:
how about on the access grid instead?
Right. The Access Grid is not particularly accessible. It's a high-tech high-cost solution reserved to some universities and some research centres.
IRC, on the other hand, is a low-bandwidth protocol invented in 1988, standardized by IETF, and supported by hundreds of programs on many
OSes and which can run on a 9600 bps modem if that's all one has.Text-based meetings also have several advantages over audio-based meetings, such that several conversations can happen at once and so
it's easy to take your time saying something without disturbing anyone. With text, no-one is fighting for the microphone.
But that can also be a disadvantage. It often becomes very hard to
follow a thread of discussion and it becomes fragmented. Moderation is
often very helpful in meetings. But I think for this purpose, an IRC
meeting will be OK.
.hc
"Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic.
It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and
expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on
terrorism."
-
retired U.S. Army general, William Odom
http://www.vrvs.org is a free alternative.
On Nov 19, 2005, at 4:08 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:
On Nov 19, 2005, at 1:13 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote:
On Sat, 19 Nov 2005, B. Bogart wrote:
I will not be in the lab on that day, and somhow I think only You, Miller and I would have access to it... Patrick Pagano wrote:
how about on the access grid instead?
Right. The Access Grid is not particularly accessible. It's a high-tech high-cost solution reserved to some universities and some research centres.
Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082
Patrick Pagano, B.S.,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082
Hi All
I can't attend but I'd love to know what gets said. Is there a way
of accessing a transcript of the proceedings?
cheers dafydd
On 18-Nov-05, at 5:38 PM, B. Bogart wrote:
Hello all,
I'd like to set up a meeting for the discussion around the PD documentation. This is an especially interesting time considering the max vs pd thread on this list.
Documentation includes:
- Workshops (PD curriculum)
- Help Patches (PDDP)
- Manuals
- How PD relates to networks and physical media
Anything else that serves as newbie access to the world of Pure-Data+.
When?
Tuesday November 22nd @ 9.00 Pacific Time 12.00 Eastern Time 17.00 UTC 18.00 Central European
Please let us know if you would like to make it but can't do that
date. Miller can you make it?Where?
#dataflow on irc.freenode.net
Who should attend?
Anyone who has taught a PD workshop. Anyone who has attended a workshop that they know could be improved. Anyone who would like to develop standards around how documentation
works. Anyhow who wants to contribute to documentation or coding to make documentation better (pddplink etc..)Agenda:
What steps have been made?
Discussion about the wiki pages below.
Philosophy
- How PD should be taught.
- Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
PDDP changes
- Template for help-patches (ready)
- Template for all_about (unchanged)
- Template for tutorials (new)
- Template for GUI elements
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
- Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
- "Help" menu
Structure of a future wiki to separate the different aspects of
the project.
This list is a starting point that runs over many of the Documentation issues. I don't think we'll figure out a lot of these things, just casting the net and trolling for ideas. There are other issues not mentioned here either.
Required Reading: (Check out before you come!)
- https://puredata.org/docs/workshops/FrontPage/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDWorkshops/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDDocumentationStructure/
Thanks all, hope to see you there.
b.
PD-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ listinfo/pd-list
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