I'm using Pd as part of the engine for an interactive art project. The setup is an old PII laptop running xubuntu Dapper. I'm stuck on a few things:
Thanks,
-John
Hallo!
- It's a long story but the bottom line is that it appears that I have to use this crappy computer as well as its less-than-steller internal sound card, and that the internal sound card or driver has some sort of bug which requires me to switch to ALSA *after* starting Pd. Everything else produces no sound. And OSS is completely inoperative. So is there a way I can do this in a patch? (The sound card is a Yamaha OPL3-SA23 BTW.)
I guess you already tried pd -alsa ...
- I'd like Pd to be able to send commands to the OS such as shutdown -h "now" when the gallery closes each evening. Is there a way to send such commands from a patch? The only thing I could think to do is send a message to a Python script using sockets....seems rather clumsy.
you can also use the [shell] external ... or you could write a cron job out of pd ...
LG Georg
I've searched all over the CVS and can't find the shell external. Where is it?
-john
Georg Holzmann wrote:
Hallo!
- It's a long story but the bottom line is that it appears that I
have to use this crappy computer as well as its less-than-steller internal sound card, and that the internal sound card or driver has some sort of bug which requires me to switch to ALSA *after* starting Pd. Everything else produces no sound. And OSS is completely inoperative. So is there a way I can do this in a patch? (The sound card is a Yamaha OPL3-SA23 BTW.)
I guess you already tried pd -alsa ...
- I'd like Pd to be able to send commands to the OS such as shutdown
-h "now" when the gallery closes each evening. Is there a way to send such commands from a patch? The only thing I could think to do is send a message to a Python script using sockets....seems rather clumsy.
you can also use the [shell] external ... or you could write a cron job out of pd ...
LG Georg
externals/ggee/control/shell.c
If you are on a UNIXish system, you can do this:
hans@sla:externals > find ~/cvs/pure-data/externals/ -name '*shell*' ./build/src/shell.c ./build/src/shell.pd_darwin ./ggee/control/shell-help.pd ./ggee/control/shell.c
.hc
On Apr 11, 2006, at 9:18 PM, John Harrison wrote:
I've searched all over the CVS and can't find the shell external.
Where is it?-john
Georg Holzmann wrote:
Hallo!
- It's a long story but the bottom line is that it appears that I
have to use this crappy computer as well as its less-than-steller internal sound card, and that the internal sound card or driver has some sort of bug which requires me to switch to ALSA *after* starting Pd. Everything else produces no sound. And OSS is completely inoperative. So is there a way I can do this in a patch? (The sound card is a Yamaha OPL3-SA23 BTW.)
I guess you already tried pd -alsa ...
- I'd like Pd to be able to send commands to the OS such as
shutdown -h "now" when the gallery closes each evening. Is there a way to send such commands from a patch? The only thing I could think to do is send a message to a Python script using sockets....seems rather clumsy.
you can also use the [shell] external ... or you could write a cron job out of pd ...
LG Georg
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John Harrison wrote:
I'm using Pd as part of the engine for an interactive art project. The setup is an old PII laptop running xubuntu Dapper. I'm stuck on a few things:
- It's a long story but the bottom line is that it appears that I have to use this crappy computer as well as its less-than-steller internal sound card, and that the internal sound card or driver has some sort of bug which requires me to switch to ALSA *after* starting Pd. Everything else produces no sound. And OSS is completely inoperative. So is there a way I can do this in a patch? (The sound card is a Yamaha OPL3-SA23 BTW.)
Create a little patch like:
[receive pd] | [print]
Then use Pd's audio dialogue to set the audio up the way you want it, which should print a long cryptic message. Then recreate this message in Pd, like this:
[loadbang] | "message that was printed with audio settings" | [send pd]
Alternatively you can send this audio settings message from the command line that starts Pd, with the -send command line option. Something like 'pd -send "; pd dsp 1"' works for activating DSP, the same technique works for audio settings.
However: this has the side-effect of opening the audio settings dialogue window, and I don't know how to close this window programmatically
This is the only way I have managed to get pd-0.39.2 to start with JACK ports enabled, without having to manually activate them in the dialogue window. Needless to say it is very inconvenient, and it would be much better if Pd really did obey the command line parameters for audio settings.
- I'd like Pd to be able to send commands to the OS such as shutdown -h "now" when the gallery closes each evening. Is there a way to send such commands from a patch? The only thing I could think to do is send a message to a Python script using sockets....seems rather clumsy.
There is the [shell] Pd external, but I've never used it myself. I'm thinking there would be permissions issues, depending if the user running Pd has the right to shutdown the computer or not (I'm not familiar with Ubuntu). If the user running Pd doesn't have that permission, I think socket communication is a logical way to send information to a script run by a user with the permission.
But, cron is designed for running commands at certain times, so it might be easier to use that.
Thanks,
-John
Hope this helps,
Okay this solution of [receive pd] and [print] works great! Yes the resulting patch leaves the dialog box open but, oh well. Nobody is going to see the laptop screen anyway. Cron I guess isn't going to work because I don't know beforehand the specified times I want shutdown to occur. In terms of [shell] I could be reckless and run from root. This is a dedicated machine so should be OK..
Thanks so much!
-John
Claude Heiland-Allen wrote:
John Harrison wrote:
I'm using Pd as part of the engine for an interactive art project. The setup is an old PII laptop running xubuntu Dapper. I'm stuck on a few things:
- It's a long story but the bottom line is that it appears that I have to use this crappy computer as well as its less-than-steller internal sound card, and that the internal sound card or driver has some sort of bug which requires me to switch to ALSA *after* starting Pd. Everything else produces no sound. And OSS is completely inoperative. So is there a way I can do this in a patch? (The sound card is a Yamaha OPL3-SA23 BTW.)
Create a little patch like:
[receive pd] | [print]
Then use Pd's audio dialogue to set the audio up the way you want it, which should print a long cryptic message. Then recreate this message in Pd, like this:
[loadbang] | "message that was printed with audio settings" | [send pd]
Alternatively you can send this audio settings message from the command line that starts Pd, with the -send command line option.
Something like 'pd -send "; pd dsp 1"' works for activating DSP, the same technique works for audio settings.However: this has the side-effect of opening the audio settings dialogue window, and I don't know how to close this window programmatically
This is the only way I have managed to get pd-0.39.2 to start with JACK ports enabled, without having to manually activate them in the dialogue window. Needless to say it is very inconvenient, and it would be much better if Pd really did obey the command line parameters for audio settings.
- I'd like Pd to be able to send commands to the OS such as shutdown -h "now" when the gallery closes each evening. Is there a way to send such commands from a patch? The only thing I could think to do is send a message to a Python script using sockets....seems rather clumsy.
There is the [shell] Pd external, but I've never used it myself. I'm thinking there would be permissions issues, depending if the user running Pd has the right to shutdown the computer or not (I'm not familiar with Ubuntu). If the user running Pd doesn't have that permission, I think socket communication is a logical way to send information to a script run by a user with the permission.
But, cron is designed for running commands at certain times, so it might be easier to use that.
Thanks,
-John
Hope this helps,
Claude
Hallo!
to see the laptop screen anyway. Cron I guess isn't going to work because I don't know beforehand the specified times I want shutdown to
okay, so you are right and it's maybe better to use [shell] ...
occur. In terms of [shell] I could be reckless and run from root. This is a dedicated machine so should be OK..
you could add "shutdown" to the sudoers-list (visudo), than you can run the command as user with "sudo shutdown ..."
LG Georg