Thomas and everybody else who's interested,
So what do you use the most and why?
Here are some specific questions based on what you wrote:
How does the Pd GriPd system compare to the patcher system for creating a good GUI inside of MAX/MSP? (AND is it possible in the future to use Pd as a signal processor in larger programs created with, for instance Fl/Tck in Linux or Visual C++ or Borland in Windows? It would be nice to use the processing and programming paradigm of Pd but interact with it via a pretty GUI in a larger standalone program.)
How does GEM compare to Jitter?
On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Thomas Grill wrote:
Hi, i've been using Max/MSP and PD for quite a while now and i see the following points:
Max:
- very good documentation and tutorials
- good patcher system which lets you create real user interfaces
- good configurable audio system with low latency
- OS9 version is quite unstable (or is (was!) it OS9?), OSX version is quite
ok.
- makes use of AltiVec on PPC
- Jitter is great
PD:
- it's free and open source
- very low latency for linux
- audio and midi system is often complicated to configure
- really bad user interface and documentation
The extendibility is in principle the same, although Max has more (but mostly commercial) packages. The support (due to the mailing lists) is equally good.
jMax has not had much success as it has been unstable and very sluggish due to its Java user interface. Version 4 has a different API which makes all externals written for older versions incompatible. However, it seems that the new jMax API is quite well-designed and can make use of multiple processors.
best greetings, Thomas
----- Original Message ----- From: "J. Scott Hildebrand" jshildebrand@ucdavis.edu To: pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 10:43 PM Subject: [PD] Pd vs. MAX
right now i'm writing a report on the effectiveness of Pd for use inspatial audio. i'm also somewhat comparing it to its competition; csound, reaktor, and of course the various versions of MAX. it's been very hard trying to understand the current state of things, for example which is more widely used and has more people working on it?
i've read a lot about the various incarnations of MAX including jMAX,MAX/MSP, Pd, and all the old stuff like MAX/Opcode, MAX/FTS, Patcher, ISPW stuff, etc.
have any of you tried several different things and have any usefulcomparison info? how are the expansions in jMAX and MAX/MSP comparable to the expansions in Pd like GEM and GriPD? thanks,
scott
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