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Re: [PD] maxlib on OSX version?
by Dan Wilcox 20 Sep '23

20 Sep '23

I believe [scale] is also available in the cyclone library. There are also pd vanilla implementations such as the [m_scale] abstraction in rjlib: https://github.com/rjdj/rjlib/tree/master/rj > On Sep 19, 2023, at 11:33 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2023 23:33:14 +0200 > From: rafael.raccuia(a)blindekinder.com <mailto:rafael.raccuia@blindekinder.com> > To: Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Subject: [PD] maxlib on OSX version? > Message-ID: > <20230919233314.Horde.7ACIk__Zu_0RKonAfNQh2Sz(a)webmail.blindekinder.com <mailto:20230919233314.Horde.7ACIk__Zu_0RKonAfNQh2Sz@webmail.blindekinder.com>> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed"; > DelSp="Yes" > > Hej!! > I can't find maxlib on 0.54 OSX version. I seached in Deken and on the > web. I need [scale] object. > I build the patch on Linux and now it will run on a mac for the intallation. > > thank you in advance! > > rph-r -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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use 2nd keyboard for note and control input to pd even when other apps have focus
by Billy Stiltner 17 Sep '23

17 Sep '23

hey, i remember a long time ago maybe Miller or Hans told us how to use maybe xinput or hid or somethin to keep keyboard mouse input going to one program even ifvanother program has focus. Anyone remember how to do that on linux? i like patch surfing on sirge and dexed whike playing in microtonal scales with custom keyboard layouts and switching modes , all my mode and keyboard stuff is handled by puredata patches and if i click on surge or dexed while playing , their virtual keyboard gains focus and screws up what im playin on the keyboard.

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Re: [PD] Problem with this (involved) abstraction for XY
by Dan Wilcox 13 Sep '23

13 Sep '23

Not to toll (really!), but I can always suggest an old/used iPad with TouchOSC to send to your machine. You can then make your own Lemur-esque layouts with good multi-touch. The only requirement would be an Apple ID to be able to have TouchOSC and I can understand if people do not want to join the Apple-verse, even for this specific case. However I can *always* recommend the hardware. > On Sep 13, 2023, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 22:37:15 -0400 > From: Billy Stiltner <billy.stiltner(a)gmail.com <mailto:billy.stiltner@gmail.com>> > To: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Problem with this (involved) abstraction for XY > Message-ID: > <CAFCi2M7oU++TL+Ev_ghfPwysVhAGQ7WOwZjXgLQqj04NUj_RfA(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAFCi2M7oU++TL+Ev_ghfPwysVhAGQ7WOwZjXgLQqj04NUj_RfA@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > the multitouch xy object > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list//2018-10/123713.html > this plus the rust app microwave which uses bevy game engine > is the only thing ive seen that actually works with multitouch laptop > screen on linux , its lije even the apps like surge that have touchscreen > mode, the virtual keyboard only treats touches like a single mouse pointer > thus only monophonic input. > i guess thats a bit off subject, can start a new thread to rant about lack > of multitouch input on linux , you would think there were tons of programs > for playing polyphonic music and twidlin more than one control at a time in > this day and age -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Problem with this (involved) abstraction for XY
by rolfm＠dds.nl 13 Sep '23

13 Sep '23

Pierre Alexandre Tremblay schreef op 30-08-2023 9:27: > Dear Miller and Christof > > I’m sorry to be the cause of pain - I will amend the patch now but > what is strange in this one is that recoding it actually changes its > behaviour. > > In all cases, I wish I had seen the changelog entry that would tell me > how the hidden but essential donecanvasdialog settings / behaviour has > changed. In all case, I hope this unexpected behaviour report is > somewhat helpful. WHERE IS THIS CHANGELOG ENTRY TO BE FOUND? ROLF > I know my desire to stay vanilla complicates things too, but again, so > many combinations of hardware and oses I think might justify my > self-inflicted pain > > p > >> On 29 Aug 2023, at 23:36, Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com> >> wrote: >> >> Sigh. >> >> @Miller Can we please finally get >> https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/627? This PR has been >> sitting around for more than 4 years now. In the meantime, people kept >> abusing the private "donecanvasdialog" message in place of a better >> and officially supported alternative, and they will continue to do >> so... >> >> Christof >> >> On 30.08.2023 00:14, Pierre Alexandre Tremblay wrote: >>> Ok a lot more investigations later, I have isolated the change of >>> behaviour. >>> >>> donecanvasdialog 1 -1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 >>> >>> Which was used to reset the patcher’s sub patchers at the top left is >>> corrupting the ability for a struct to broadcast its click through a >>> graph. Now, can anyone on the Pd dev confirm this? >>> >>> How to reproduce: >>> >>>> https://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/10854/xy-abstraction-to-get-mouse-clic… >>> >>> In pd 0.53.2 it works >>> >>> In pd 0.54.0 it doesn’t receive the click from the #0-rectangle (so >>> it draws and emits nothing) >>> >>> To fix it, remove top left the donecanvasdialog elements (2 of them) >>> >>> Then reinstantiate the 3 pd Subpatches on the right >>> >>> (Or you can just try the one I attach) >>> >>> It is not fixed completely yet but the click gets through now. I >>> really wonder what has changed there… >>> >>> Any pointer (pun intended) welcome >>> >>> p >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Uploading an abstraction to Deken
by Chris McCormick 08 Sep '23

08 Sep '23

Hello list, Is there a webpage which explains how to provision and upload a simple abstractions library to Deken in 2023? Cheers, Chris. -- https://mccormick.cx/

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ELSE 1.0-0 rc-9 - [sfont~] issue under Manjaro Linux 23
by Linux Rouen Normandie 06 Sep '23

06 Sep '23

ELSE 1.0-0 rc-9 released on August 31st 2023 You have Pd Vanilla 0.54-0, you're good! But [sfont~] issue under Manjaro Linux 23 (Arch Linux based): /home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/sfont~.l_amd64: libpcre.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory else/sfont~ -g 0.3 ... couldn't create In Else 1.0-0 rc-8 we had: /home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/libpcre-1.w64 /home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/amd64/libpcre.so.3 But in Else 1.0-0 rc-9 we have only the closest fits: /home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/libpcre2-8-0.w64 /home/joe/Pure-Data/externals/else/amd64/libpcre.1.dylib Thanks, Joseph Gastelais

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[PD-announce] plugdata v0.8.0-test is out now
by Timothy Schoen 05 Sep '23

05 Sep '23

Hi everyone! I've just put out a release candidate for plugdata v0.8.0 <https://github.com/plugdata-team/plugdata/releases/tag/v0.8.0-test>. Give it a try, and let me know if you experience any issues. If you haven't heard, plugdata is a relatively new pure-data flavour that aims to be compatible with pd-vanilla, while offering a new GUI, more built-in objects, the ability to run inside the DAW, and the ability to export Pd patches to C++ code or embedded platforms. Here's some highlights: - Updated to pd-0.54 with multichannel signals (thanks to pure-data developers), and ELSE-rc9 with many new objects and multi-channel support(thanks to porres) - Many UI improvements, we've redesigned all dialogs and menus in the whole app, and also polished the whole user experience - New activity overlay will highlight objects that are generating messages - DAW parameters can now be float, int, exponential float or logarithmic float, and their order can be changed - Integrated Heavy exporter can now generate pd externals, is more stable and now supports MIDI on Electro-Smith Daisy - Many stability improvements - Much more, this is one of the biggest releases yet! Cheers, Tim _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] SOLVED!: Building ELSE for Pd Vanilla (here RPi OS 11 32-bit)
by Linux Rouen Normandie 01 Sep '23

01 Sep '23

Hello Alexandre & IOhannes, 1- Thanks a lot for your guidance and help. 😎 ELSE 1.0-0 rc-9 Pre/Test (downloaded today from Git) is running well under Pd 0.54.0 / RPi OS-11 32-bit (armv7) base Debian 11 / RPi 400 (h/w). I tested it with one of my MIDI patch using, among other externals' objects, [else/midi], [else/keyboard] and [else/sfont~]. 2- For people interested, I recap what I did on my RPi 400. - Pd 0.51.4, 1st install from RPi repository (base on Debian 11 32-bit). - Then, successfully updated to Pd 0.53.0, 0.53.1 and 0.54.0 by compiling them from their source code downloaded from Miller's site <https://msp.puredata.info/software.html> and then installing them. - Latest ELSE external accessible thru Pd/Deken was v.1.0-0 rc-6. 3- As Else v.1.0-0 rc-9 for ARM is neither available thru Pd/Deken nor directly from Alexandre's Git, I decided to try to compil it. My 3rd and last trial was successful and it took about 10 minutes. - Download pd-else-master.zip <https://github.com/porres/pd-else/archive/refs/heads/master.zip> and uncompress it where you want, then follow Alexandre's Building instructions <https://github.com/porres/pd-else#building-else-for-pd-vanilla>. - With my RPi 400 setup this gives in a Terminal: . 1st pass in 2 steps: pi@RPi400:~/Downloads/pd-else-master $ make pdincludepath=/home/pi/Desktop/Pd-Compil_RPi400/pd-0.54-0/src pi@RPi400:~/Downloads/pd-else-master $ make install objectsdir=~/else-build . 2nd pass also in 2 steps, but only if needed for [sfont~], [sfz~] and [plaits~] pi@RPi400:~/Downloads/pd-else-master $ make sfont sfz plaits pdincludepath=/home/pi/Desktop/Pd-Compil_RPi400/pd-0.54-0/src pi@RPi400:~/Downloads/pd-else-master $ make sfont-install sfz-install plaits-install objectsdir=~/else-build - Move the new Else folder (which is now available within your /home/pi/else-build) to the place where the former Else external was. If needed rename the former one for keeping a copy of it in case of (it's always what I'm doing). - You are done! 4- Two remarks concerning the issues I was facing to: - As Pd 0.51.4 was first installed from RPi repository, installing my compiled Pd 0.53.0 above it was making an issue with the its Dev-Headers. For avoiding that, first clean Pd 0.51.4 installation by removing the remaining: puredata-dev/stable,now 0.51.4-1 - As the compilation of Else needs to have access to the ~/pd-0.54-0/src folder, make sure you have also available on your Raspberry Pi the source code of the latest Pd version you have used for compiling it. And don't skip the 1st command given by Alexandre. 5- The ELSE compiled folder / nb of file 1083 / size ~ 55 MB for RPi armv7 (32-bit) is available on demand. But it's missing both 'Live-Electronics-Tutorial' and 'pdlua' folders. Best, Joseph Gastelais

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cannot find ggee external - I need [shell] or [command]
by mick mengucci 01 Sep '23

01 Sep '23

Hi list I need the [shell] object to trigger python codes from within Pure Data. I am trying on raspberry os, with a raspberry 4, Pd version 0.51.4. But it would be usefull also for pc as in schools I rarely meet linux users, unfortunately. I checked here https://puredata.info/docs/ListOfPdExternals/ where it says that flatspace or ggee or flatspace/ggee would have this object. But in Dekken (Find externals) I do not get any result. I also saw that Alexandros suggests [command] but which external do I need installed? -- MKSTURA.EU MISTURAPURA.NET <http://WWW.MISTURAPURA.NET> mickmengucci.bandcamp.com facebook.com/mickmengucci3 facebook.com/Labio.pt pure mixture vibration since 1995

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Re [PD-announce] ELSE 1.0 rc9 and live electronics tutorial released. (Alexandre Torres Porres)
by Jim Ruxton 31 Aug '23

31 Aug '23

Thanks for such a great external. Just a note that in Ubuntu 22.04 when trying to load voices~ help file I get the following messages in my console. It seems a number of objects don't have .pd candidates in the else directory including those showing up as not loading below. Not sure whats up here. Thanks for any suggestions. I'm using PD version 0.54.0 . Many of the objects do work however. lse/voices 1 1 ... couldn't create else/wrap2 ... couldn't create else/wrap2 ... couldn't create else/wrap2 ... couldn't create else/voices ... couldn't create else/voices 1 1 ... couldn't create else/wrap2 ... couldn't create else/wrap2 ... couldn't create else/wrap2 ... couldn't create else/sum~ ... couldn't create else/vu~ ... couldn't create else/vu~ ... couldn't create else/vu~ ... couldn't create else/vu~ ... couldn't create else/voices ... couldn't create else/wrap2~ ... couldn't create else/wrap2 -0.5 0.5 ... couldn't create else/unmerge 2 ... couldn't create else/unmerge 3 3 ... couldn't create else/wrap2 ... couldn't create

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