Pd-list October 2021

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pure-data.info
by Iain Duncan 10 Oct '21

10 Oct '21

Hi folks, wondering if we can talk about pure-data.info. It's a real mess of brutally outdated pages mixed in with really helpful pages. What is the policy for become an editor? Is there anyone in charge of the site? I feel like a not-minor obstacle to people becoming more involved in Pd is wading through all the out of date pages trying to find the goods. At any rate, I'm about to tackle building s4pd for windows, so I could capture what I go through to update that area if it's helpful. thanks for listening iain

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Re: [PD] Pd in cross-platform frameworks
by Dan Wilcox 10 Oct '21

10 Oct '21

One of my goals for libpd is to implement a GUI communication abstraction layer, similar too and possibly building upon the work done for Purr Data's GUI. The end result would you could implement platform or framework-specific drawing but the main logic stays in "Pd land" so you don't have to recreate the widgets themselves as we've done in PdDroiudParty/PdParty. You'd only need to handle "draw rectangle here" etc. This would be similar to how libpd already gives you message and MIDI handling. When I can get to doing this for real is another question, largely depending on resources and time. > On Oct 9, 2021, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 08:55:47 -0700 > From: Daniel Iglesia <daniel.iglesia(a)gmail.com <mailto:daniel.iglesia@gmail.com>> > To: "hans w. koch" <hansw.koch(a)gmail.com <mailto:hansw.koch@gmail.com>> > Cc: Pd-list <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd in cross-platform frameworks > Message-ID: > <CANZ10W24dDk6O9cnR3gZV5o46S84dRVMHHfpdaKM7SMwomyPiA(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CANZ10W24dDk6O9cnR3gZV5o46S84dRVMHHfpdaKM7SMwomyPiA@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I use Flutter for my day job, which I highly prefer to native iOS and > Android development. > > (If I ever have the time and energy, I am considering rewriting MobMuPlat > in Flutter, which would unite 4 separate implementations (iOS, Android, > Java Swing for desktop, MacOs) into a single implementation.) > > While a Flutter GUI (and other layers of the app, e.g. data layer, > controllers, etc) is cross-platform, you will still need to have a 'native' > layer for iOS and Android in order to handle libpd integration and its > interaction with per-platform audio APIs. But that would operate the same > as existing iOS and Android native apps which use libpd; you would merely > add a 'plugin' wrapper (i.e. a Dart library which translates app logic into > calls to the native layer). -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] Fwd: random routing of 8 audio-streams to 8 outputs
by Dan Wilcox 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

I do this using throw~ and catch~ where the mapping happens in an abstraction within a clone object. I've used this heavily for spatialized projects at work up for up to 64 channels. Here is a simple solution using Han's c_urn suggestion to do the random number generation: https://github.com/danomatika/BangYourHead/tree/master/3.Audio/rand8player <https://github.com/danomatika/BangYourHead/tree/master/3.Audio/rand8player> This could be further cleaned by using an output abstraction that wraps a [dac~] without creation args so you can set the output channel. You could also integrate the [dac~] into the existing channel map abstraction too, but I figured it was easier to read using a single doc~ object as an example. if you want further heavy usage of this approach with multiple mapping layers, see https://github.com/zkmkarlsruhe/ZirkoniumSpatializationServer <https://github.com/zkmkarlsruhe/ZirkoniumSpatializationServer> > On Oct 5, 2021, at 4:12 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2021 00:08:22 +0200 > From: Simon Iten <itensimon(a)gmail.com <mailto:itensimon@gmail.com>> > To: Pd-list <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: [PD] Fwd: random routing of 8 audio-streams to 8 outputs > Message-ID: > <CAP9NQknMyn6OJSfP9UjBCf-ZNykr5QRP6qnbxA60pOcBLSUoLQ(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAP9NQknMyn6OJSfP9UjBCf-ZNykr5QRP6qnbxA60pOcBLSUoLQ@mail.gmail.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > is there a somewhat elegant way to route 8 audio outputs (from readsf~) to > 8 dac~ outputs randomly (on a bang for example)? > > i.e. out1 to dac4, out2 to dac7 etc. > > each output is allowed to one dac~ channel only. > > mathematically speaking that would be 8! 8x7x6x5x4x3x2x1 (40320) > possibilites, but i don?t see an easy way to program this in puredata. > > some way of dynamic patching maybe? or a throw~ and catch~ approach? i get > stuck on the random logic, since every ?step? that chooses a destinations > changes the subsequent outputs that are still allowed to be chosen. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] list of Pd forks?
by Dan Wilcox 07 Oct '21

07 Oct '21

> On Oct 6, 2021, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 11:55:30 +0200 > From: Christof Ressi <info(a)christofressi.com <mailto:info@christofressi.com>> > To: Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] list of Pd forks? > Message-ID: <c139da94-ed70-2fe4-9b5d-571a7deaaaba(a)christofressi.com <mailto:c139da94-ed70-2fe4-9b5d-571a7deaaaba@christofressi.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > * different/better font size handling Ouch. I hope this is your historical list and you *now* think vanilla has "better font size handling". :) -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Fwd: random routing of 8 audio-streams to 8 outputs
by Simon Iten 05 Oct '21

05 Oct '21

is there a somewhat elegant way to route 8 audio outputs (from readsf~) to 8 dac~ outputs randomly (on a bang for example)? i.e. out1 to dac4, out2 to dac7 etc. each output is allowed to one dac~ channel only. mathematically speaking that would be 8! 8x7x6x5x4x3x2x1 (40320) possibilites, but i don’t see an easy way to program this in puredata. some way of dynamic patching maybe? or a throw~ and catch~ approach? i get stuck on the random logic, since every “step” that chooses a destinations changes the subsequent outputs that are still allowed to be chosen.

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Can't launch DeepLearningWithAudio patches
by Yann Seznec 03 Oct '21

03 Oct '21

Hello hello, I’ve posted this issue on GitHub but I’m wondering if anyone on this list has run into this before me: https://github.com/SopiMlab/DeepLearningWithAudio/issues/8 <https://github.com/SopiMlab/DeepLearningWithAudio/issues/8> I’m trying to get started on the Deep Learning With Audio resources, and I’m reasonably certain I’ve managed to set up Python, Conda, Magenta, and PyExt correctly. However none of the Pd patches will launch. A few more details at the link above, but to be honest I’m finding it hard to track down any more clues as I’m not seeing any error messages anywhere and there are no crash logs or anything that I can see. I’m on a MacBook Pro M1, macOS 11.6, Pd 0.51.4. Any tips appreciated, Yann

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[PD-announce] command external v0.1
by Roman Haefeli 01 Oct '21

01 Oct '21

Hi The [command] external lets you execute commands from Pd. It is available on Deken for the following platforms: * Linux-amd64-32 * Linux-armv7-32 * Linux-i386-32 * Darwin-amd64-32 Not supported is Windows. More info here: https://github.com/pd-externals/command Roman _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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