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Re: [PD] [PD-dev] Binaural spatialisation in PD
by Christof Ressi 08 Sep '19

08 Sep '19

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Re: [PD] font in 0.50
by rolfm＠dds.nl 08 Sep '19

08 Sep '19

@christof i'm using i386. this is console output: pdfontloader loaded DejaVuSansMono.ttf pdfontloader loaded DejaVuSansMono-Bold.ttf 'pd-gui' connecting to 'pd' on localhost 5401 ... ------------------ done with main ---------------------- Tk 8.5.19 Detected font: DejaVu Sans Mono Using font: DejaVu Sans Mono bold rolf Christof Ressi schreef op 08-09-2019 11:31: > I've noticed you didn't reply to Lucas' mail: > https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2019-08/125829.html > > what font is Pd using? are you using 64-bit Pd? if yes, can you try > 32-bit and compare? > > Christof > >> Gesendet: Sonntag, 08. September 2019 um 11:16 Uhr >> Von: rolfm(a)dds.nl >> An: "Pd list" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> >> Betreff: Re: [PD] font in 0.50 >> >> hi, >> >> i'm really strugling with this change in size from 0.49. >> it feels like a disaster, until now i did not find something like a >> (partial) solution. >> >> i hope some people on the list can point me to something workable. >> (besides staying with 0.49). >> >> >> first a few things which could possibly help me: >> >> is it possible to let Pd ignore the font-size saved in the patch and >> use >> another given value? >> >> is it possible to change the standard distance between object boxes >> used >> while autopatching? >> >> is it possible to enlarge the area for the cursor to detect an outlet? >> >> >> then the obstacles: >> >> when, in Windows 10, i scale the system overall from the recommended >> 125% to 175% i'm still forced to sit close to my 15" screen to be able >> to read my existing patches. >> >> (while i need to find flexible comfortable ways to work with the >> computer in relation to RSI phenomena). >> >> the pd-windows are enlarged, but the content of the GOP's and the >> underlying patches stay in font-size 10. >> >> the same goes for Pd itself. >> the font for the console (font-size 12) can be changed but the change >> is >> not saved. >> the menu's stay anyhow in font-size 10. >> >> lots of help-patches are also in 10. >> watching the help-patch with the zoom could help, but is a hassle >> because one has to move the focus/cursor to the help-window, do Ctrl + >> , >> and maximize the window. >> >> the font-size variable in the command line only works on new patches, >> as >> does the zoom preference. >> >> >> what to do? >> there's the terrible option to change all my existing >> patches/abstractions to a larger font, what would also mean to >> reorganize the layout. >> >> of course i'm dreaming of a scalable overall zoom, even a few distinct >> levels would do. (which would also benefit the exchange of patches >> with >> other people). >> but... >> >> rolf >> >> >> >> Miller Puckette schreef op 25-08-2019 18:15: >> > Oops, correction: 64-bit 0.49 and 0.50, and 32-bit 0.50 look the same, >> > but >> > 32-bit 0.49 is larger and smudgy. (And let me know if you're seeing >> > something >> > different :) >> > >> > M >> > >> > On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 08:54:54AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: >> >> Hi Rolf - >> >> >> >> I compared 0.49 and 0.50. It looks to me like the 64 bit version of >> >> 0.49 and >> >> 0.50, and the 32 bit version of 0.49, all look the same, but the >> >> 32-bit >> >> version of 0.49 has everything larger and smudgy-looking (apparently >> >> because Tcl/Tk was rescaling everything). The i386 version of 0.49 >> >> shipped with Tcl/tk 8.5.10 and 0.50 with 8.5.19, which fixed various >> >> other >> >> problems. >> >> >> >> From the command line you can run Pd with "-font 16" for instance to >> >> get >> >> boxes bigger in new patches, but the only way to see an existing patch >> >> bigger is to use "zoom". Unfortunately, patches don't remember their >> >> zoom state (I now think that they probably should). >> >> >> >> cheers >> >> Miller >> >> >> >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 01:34:23PM +0200, rolfm(a)dds.nl wrote: >> >> > hi >> >> > >> >> > i'm on Windows 10. >> >> > font & object boxes & windows show up significant smaller in 0.50 then >> >> > in 0.49. >> >> > >> >> > how come? >> >> > and how to change without the command line? >> >> > >> >> > rolf >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> >> > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list >> >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list >> >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>

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Re: [PD] font in 0.50
by Christof Ressi 08 Sep '19

08 Sep '19

I've noticed you didn't reply to Lucas' mail: https://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2019-08/125829.html what font is Pd using? are you using 64-bit Pd? if yes, can you try 32-bit and compare? Christof > Gesendet: Sonntag, 08. September 2019 um 11:16 Uhr > Von: rolfm(a)dds.nl > An: "Pd list" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> > Betreff: Re: [PD] font in 0.50 > > hi, > > i'm really strugling with this change in size from 0.49. > it feels like a disaster, until now i did not find something like a > (partial) solution. > > i hope some people on the list can point me to something workable. > (besides staying with 0.49). > > > first a few things which could possibly help me: > > is it possible to let Pd ignore the font-size saved in the patch and use > another given value? > > is it possible to change the standard distance between object boxes used > while autopatching? > > is it possible to enlarge the area for the cursor to detect an outlet? > > > then the obstacles: > > when, in Windows 10, i scale the system overall from the recommended > 125% to 175% i'm still forced to sit close to my 15" screen to be able > to read my existing patches. > > (while i need to find flexible comfortable ways to work with the > computer in relation to RSI phenomena). > > the pd-windows are enlarged, but the content of the GOP's and the > underlying patches stay in font-size 10. > > the same goes for Pd itself. > the font for the console (font-size 12) can be changed but the change is > not saved. > the menu's stay anyhow in font-size 10. > > lots of help-patches are also in 10. > watching the help-patch with the zoom could help, but is a hassle > because one has to move the focus/cursor to the help-window, do Ctrl + , > and maximize the window. > > the font-size variable in the command line only works on new patches, as > does the zoom preference. > > > what to do? > there's the terrible option to change all my existing > patches/abstractions to a larger font, what would also mean to > reorganize the layout. > > of course i'm dreaming of a scalable overall zoom, even a few distinct > levels would do. (which would also benefit the exchange of patches with > other people). > but... > > rolf > > > > Miller Puckette schreef op 25-08-2019 18:15: > > Oops, correction: 64-bit 0.49 and 0.50, and 32-bit 0.50 look the same, > > but > > 32-bit 0.49 is larger and smudgy. (And let me know if you're seeing > > something > > different :) > > > > M > > > > On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 08:54:54AM -0700, Miller Puckette wrote: > >> Hi Rolf - > >> > >> I compared 0.49 and 0.50. It looks to me like the 64 bit version of > >> 0.49 and > >> 0.50, and the 32 bit version of 0.49, all look the same, but the > >> 32-bit > >> version of 0.49 has everything larger and smudgy-looking (apparently > >> because Tcl/Tk was rescaling everything). The i386 version of 0.49 > >> shipped with Tcl/tk 8.5.10 and 0.50 with 8.5.19, which fixed various > >> other > >> problems. > >> > >> From the command line you can run Pd with "-font 16" for instance to > >> get > >> boxes bigger in new patches, but the only way to see an existing patch > >> bigger is to use "zoom". Unfortunately, patches don't remember their > >> zoom state (I now think that they probably should). > >> > >> cheers > >> Miller > >> > >> On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 01:34:23PM +0200, rolfm(a)dds.nl wrote: > >> > hi > >> > > >> > i'm on Windows 10. > >> > font & object boxes & windows show up significant smaller in 0.50 then > >> > in 0.49. > >> > > >> > how come? > >> > and how to change without the command line? > >> > > >> > rolf > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > >> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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font in 0.50
by rolfm＠dds.nl 08 Sep '19

08 Sep '19

hi i'm on Windows 10. font & object boxes & windows show up significant smaller in 0.50 then in 0.49. how come? and how to change without the command line? rolf

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-font-size startup flag for Pd window and menus
by Lorenzo Sutton 07 Sep '19

07 Sep '19

This is on Linux. It seems that if one starts Pd with a -font-size flag (e.g. -font-size 16), this will only affect canvas objects. On the other hand setting the font size from the font menu in the Pd window will only affect the Font size for the Pd window text itself and all menus. Finally setting the font size from the font menu in a patch window will (only) set the font for canvas objects for that ans subsequent patches. Is there a start-up (or preferences) way to set the same font size for all of Pd window, menus _and_ objects? Lorenzo.

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IEMMATRIX - [mtx_.*] - error in newer version
by oliver 07 Sep '19

07 Sep '19

hi ! IOhannes, i think this is for you ... sorry to bug you once more ... i just noticed a newly introduced error in IEMMATRIX that was no error before ... attached is a patch (an excerpt of the help patch for [mtx_.*]) that used to work error-less with (old) version 0.2 of IEMMATRIX (deken's version numbering is "iemmatrix-v0.2-20150529iem") PD's console output is like this ====================================================================== iemmatrix 0.2 objects for manipulating 2d-matrices (c) 2001-2015 iem IOhannes m zmölnig Thomas Musil Franz Zotter compiled May 29 2015 : 22:45:53 matrix: 2 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 6 ====================================================================== with the newest version of IEMMATRIX (0.3.1) the same patch throws an error message and doesn't work anymore: ====================================================================== iemmatrix 0.3.1 objects for manipulating 2d-matrices (c) 2001-2015 iem IOhannes m zmölnig Thomas Musil Franz Zotter compiled Feb 4 2019 : 21:51:36 [mtx_.*]: invalid dimensions 0x1 ====================================================================== best oliver

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[menubutton] error on OSX
by oliver 05 Sep '19

05 Sep '19

hi, just discovered a serious error with the [menubutton] object (which is part of "TOF") on a recent OSX PD: 0.50.0 OSX: 10.13.6 TOF: tof-v0-0extended (that's the only one available via "find externals" ...) on loading [menubutton]'s helppatch the object crashes PD, as it will not be created and a Tcl/Tk error appears: ======================================================================= menubutton v0.12 tof, based on popup by Ben Bogart and button by ggee (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name ".x50ccf0.c" while executing ".x50ccf0.c create rectangle 26 538 158 560 -tags 50d820R -outline "purple" " ("uplevel" body line 1) invoked from within "uplevel #0 $docmds" ======================================================================= after that, PD then can no longer be used, because the following error appears constantly on any mouse move ... ======================================================================= .x100320920: no such object ======================================================================= and has to be force shut. funnily enough the [pmenu] object from the same TOF version works ! _______________________________________________________________________ on windows (PD 0.50.0, win 7/64), no such error is happening, but there's also a newer TOF version existing: tof[v0.2.1](Windows-amd64-32) best oliver -- \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ /////////////// http://pendler.klingt.org ////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ http://oliver.klingt.org \\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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[menubutton] error on OSX
by oliver 05 Sep '19

05 Sep '19

hi, sorry, forgot to mention that this crash didn't happen with PD 0.48 on a OSX machine (same TOF version) i can't recall the OSX version though, it's been a year ago i used it. iguess it was 10.11 ... best oliver

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[PD-announce] Ofelia runs in a web browser.
by Zack Lee 03 Sep '19

03 Sep '19

You can now run Ofelia patches in your web browser using Emscripten. Here are the instructions if you're interested: https://github.com/cuinjune/ofxOfelia#running-the-emscripten-example-in-a-w… ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GitHub repo: https://github.com/cuinjune/ofxOfelia User group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ofeliausers/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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[PD-announce] 0.50-0 released
by Miller Puckette 03 Sep '19

03 Sep '19

To Pd-announce: Pd version 0.50-0 is available on http://msp.ucsd.edu/software.htm or (source only) via github: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data. Several problems with zooming from 0.50test1 are fixed. There are numerous reported bugs still, but no show-stoppers, and I'm way late getting this out. So I'm putting off fixing many of them till the next release. cheers Miller _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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