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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches
by Dan Wilcox 12 Oct '18

12 Oct '18

Can y'all try this test build: Pd-0.49-0test3-keyfix4.zip <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.49-0test3-keyfix4.zip> > On Oct 11, 2018, at 1:15 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:59:28 +0200 > From: Edwin van der Heide <pd(a)evdh.net <mailto:pd@evdh.net>> > To: pd-list <pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:pd-list@iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches > Message-ID: <E1543228-34A5-464F-89A5-F4C9320119DF(a)evdh.net <mailto:E1543228-34A5-464F-89A5-F4C9320119DF@evdh.net>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > For me PD crashes when I create a new file, not when I overwrite an existing file. > >> On 11 Oct 2018, at 12:44, Dario Sanfilippo <sanfilippo.dario(a)gmail.com <mailto:sanfilippo.dario@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> I also get a seg fault: >> >> Segmentation fault: 11 >> gui socket 3 - >> closing audio... >> >> <http://dariosanfilippo.tumblr.com/ <http://dariosanfilippo.tumblr.com/>> >> >> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide <edwin(a)evdh.net <mailto:edwin@evdh.net> <mailto:edwin@evdh.net <mailto:edwin@evdh.net>>> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6. >> >> Bellow follows a part of the crash report. >> >> If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug mode. >> >> Best, >> >> Edwin -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches
by Philip Stone 12 Oct '18

12 Oct '18

Hi Miller, I can confirm that Dan’s [keyup] fix is working in your test version. Phil Stone UC Davis On Oct 12, 2018, at 3:00 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at<mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote: Message: 1 Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 21:37:30 -0700 From: Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu<mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>> To: Edwin van der Heide <pd(a)evdh.net<mailto:pd@evdh.net>> Cc: Dan Wilcox <danomatika(a)gmail.com<mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>>, Dario Sanfilippo <sanfilippo.dario(a)gmail.com<mailto:sanfilippo.dario@gmail.com>>, Pd-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at<mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> Subject: Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches Message-ID: <20181012043730.GB23917(a)ucsd.edu<mailto:20181012043730.GB23917@ucsd.edu>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks for the testing - may I ask you to test my builds, just to make sure? http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/misc/pd-0.49-1test1.mac.tar.gz http://msp.ucsd.edu/tmp/misc/pd-0.49-1test1-i386.mac.tar.gz thanks Miller On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 01:00:01AM +0200, Edwin van der Heide wrote: It does solve the problem for me! On 11 Oct 2018, at 17:24, Dan Wilcox <danomatika(a)gmail.com<mailto:danomatika@gmail.com>> wrote: Can y'all try this test build: Pd-0.49-0test3-keyfix4.zip <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/Pd-0.49-0test3-keyfix4.zip> On Oct 11, 2018, at 1:15 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at<mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> <mailto:pd-list-request@lists.iem.at> wrote: Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 12:59:28 +0200 From: Edwin van der Heide <pd(a)evdh.net<mailto:pd@evdh.net> <mailto:pd@evdh.net>> To: pd-list <pd-list(a)iem.at<mailto:pd-list@iem.at> <mailto:pd-list@iem.at>> Subject: Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches Message-ID: <E1543228-34A5-464F-89A5-F4C9320119DF(a)evdh.net<mailto:E1543228-34A5-464F-89A5-F4C9320119DF@evdh.net> <mailto:E1543228-34A5-464F-89A5-F4C9320119DF@evdh.net>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" For me PD crashes when I create a new file, not when I overwrite an existing file. On 11 Oct 2018, at 12:44, Dario Sanfilippo <sanfilippo.dario(a)gmail.com<mailto:sanfilippo.dario@gmail.com> <mailto:sanfilippo.dario@gmail.com>> wrote: I also get a seg fault: Segmentation fault: 11 gui socket 3 - closing audio... <http://dariosanfilippo.tumblr.com/ <http://dariosanfilippo.tumblr.com/>> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide <edwin(a)evdh.net<mailto:edwin@evdh.net> <mailto:edwin@evdh.net> <mailto:edwin@evdh.net <mailto:edwin@evdh.net>>> wrote: Hello, Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6. Bellow follows a part of the crash report. If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug mode. Best, Edwin -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com<http://danomatika.com/> <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com<http://robotcowboy.com/> <http://robotcowboy.com/> _______________________________________________ Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Re: [PD] "Could'nt create"...
by Dan Wilcox 12 Oct '18

12 Oct '18

That could also be one object: [declare -lib tof -lib iemlib -lib unauthorized] > On Oct 11, 2018, at 3:27 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2018 13:07:04 +0000 (UTC) > From: Ed Kelly <morph_2016(a)yahoo.co.uk <mailto:morph_2016@yahoo.co.uk>> > > ERRATA![declare -lib tof][declare -lib iemlib][declare -lib unauthorized] > THEN select all, deselect these 3 etc. > Never be afraid to admit you were wrong!ED -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Re: [PD] PD .49 crashing when saving patches
by Dario Sanfilippo 11 Oct '18

11 Oct '18

I also get a seg fault: Segmentation fault: 11 gui socket 3 - closing audio... <http://dariosanfilippo.tumblr.com> On Thu, 11 Oct 2018 at 12:33, Edwin van der Heide <edwin(a)evdh.net> wrote: > Hello, > > Yes, the same thing happens to me on macOS 10.13.6. > > Bellow follows a part of the crash report. > > If needed I could learn how to compile PD on OS X and run it in debug mode. > > Best, > > Edwin > ----------------------------------------- > > Process: Pd [4901] > Path: /Applications/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd > Identifier: org.puredata.pd.pd-gui > Version: 0.49.0 (0.49.0) > Code Type: X86-64 (Native) > Parent Process: ??? [1] > Responsible: Pd [4901] > User ID: 502 > > Date/Time: 2018-10-11 12:26:19.262 +0200 > OS Version: Mac OS X 10.13.6 (17G65) > Report Version: 12 > Bridge OS Version: 3.0 (14Y664) > Anonymous UUID: 4749B67C-5108-801A-4DA2-058DCFA8D84B > > Sleep/Wake UUID: EDB9ABA2-F223-4CB0-A8DF-C7D1077DB2DC > > Time Awake Since Boot: 100000 seconds > Time Since Wake: 12000 seconds > > System Integrity Protection: enabled > > Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread > > Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) > Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000 > Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY > > Termination Signal: Segmentation fault: 11 > Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 0xb > Terminating Process: exc handler [0] > > VM Regions Near 0: > --> > __TEXT 0000000100000000-0000000100005000 [ 20K] > r-x/rwx SM=COW | [/Applications/Pd-0.49-0.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd] > > Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread > 0 Tk 0x00000001000bfd0f XUngrabKeyboard > + 681 > 1 Tk 0x00000001000c01d6 XGrabKeyboard + > 956 > 2 Tk 0x00000001000c697f > Tk_MacOSXSetupTkNotifier + 692 > 3 Tcl 0x00000001001c8ebf Tcl_DoOneEvent > + 297 > 4 Tk 0x000000010001ba94 Tk_MainLoop + 24 > 5 Tk 0x0000000100028871 Tk_MainEx + 1797 > 6 Pd 0x000000010000447c 0x100000000 + > 17532 > 7 Pd 0x00000001000043d8 0x100000000 + > 17368 > > Thread 1: > 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff57bb8cf2 __select + 10 > 1 Tcl 0x00000001001fd1b3 > Tcl_InitNotifier + 1592 > 2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d80661 _pthread_body + > 340 > 3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d8050d _pthread_start > + 377 > 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d7fbf9 thread_start + > 13 > > Thread 2:: CVDisplayLink > 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff57bb8a16 __psynch_cvwait > + 10 > 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d815c2 > _pthread_cond_wait + 789 > 2 com.apple.CoreVideo 0x00007fff317eb3f3 > CVDisplayLink::waitUntil(unsigned long long) + 237 > 3 com.apple.CoreVideo 0x00007fff317ea9a4 > CVDisplayLink::runIOThread() + 500 > 4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d80661 _pthread_body + > 340 > 5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d8050d _pthread_start > + 377 > 6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d7fbf9 thread_start + > 13 > > Thread 3:: com.apple.NSEventThread > 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff57baf20a mach_msg_trap + > 10 > 1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff57bae724 mach_msg + 60 > 2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff2fc14785 > __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 341 > 3 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff2fc13ad7 __CFRunLoopRun > + 1783 > 4 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x00007fff2fc13153 > CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 483 > 5 com.apple.AppKit 0x00007fff2d2ebfc4 _NSEventThread > + 184 > 6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d80661 _pthread_body + > 340 > 7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d8050d _pthread_start > + 377 > 8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d7fbf9 thread_start + > 13 > > Thread 4: > 0 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d7fbdc start_wqthread > + 0 > 1 ??? 0x0000000000000b80 0 + 2944 > > Thread 5: > 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff57bb928a > __workq_kernreturn + 10 > 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d8020e > _pthread_wqthread + 1552 > 2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d7fbe9 start_wqthread > + 13 > > Thread 6: > 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff57bb928a > __workq_kernreturn + 10 > 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d8020e > _pthread_wqthread + 1552 > 2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d7fbe9 start_wqthread > + 13 > > Thread 7: > 0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff57bb928a > __workq_kernreturn + 10 > 1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d8020e > _pthread_wqthread + 1552 > 2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff57d7fbe9 start_wqthread > + 13 > > Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit): > rax: 0x00007ffeefbff720 rbx: 0x00007ffeefbff720 rcx: > 0x0000000000000020 rdx: 0xffffffffffffffe0 > rdi: 0x00007ffeefbff7c0 rsi: 0x0000000000000000 rbp: > 0x00007ffeefbff600 rsp: 0x00007ffeefbff5e0 > r8: 0x0000000000000001 r9: 0x0000000000000001 r10: > 0x00006040001161d0 r11: 0x000000010174b8a0 > r12: 0x0000000000000000 r13: 0x0000000000000000 r14: > 0x00007fff2de3f6fb r15: 0x0000000000000000 > rip: 0x00000001000bfd0f rfl: 0x0000000000010283 cr2: 0x0000000000000000 > > Logical CPU: 6 > Error Code: 0x00000004 > Trap Number: 14 > > > > > On 11 Oct 2018, at 11:16, Dario Sanfilippo <sanfilippo.dario(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hello. > > > > I just wanted to let you know that PD .49 crashes almost regularly after > saving a patch. I've just tested opening PD, saving a simple patch with an > inlet~ and another with an inlet, either with the DSP on or off, and it > crashes immediately after saving the patch. It does manage to write the > file, though. > > > > It doesn't crash if the patch that I save is empty. > > > > Has anything similar happened to you? I'm on OSZ 10.11.6. > > > > Dario > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >

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heavy, bela etc.
by Simon Iten 11 Oct '18

11 Oct '18

just as a quick update for those that did not yet realize it. (there was a short discussion about this on the list about a year back, but i cannot find it) bela, the low latency audio platform can run pd patches in two ways: -through libpd, so all vanilla objects are supported -through heavy which used to be an online closed source compiler that created optimized c code from pd patches (a substantial subset of vanilla objects) this service has recently been shutdown but the code has been opensourced. means you can run the heavy compiler locally! if somebody has interest in the codebase of heavy, or even wants to jump in and develop it further (adding more vanilla objects for example) check it out: https://github.com/enzienaudio/hvcc <https://github.com/enzienaudio/hvcc>

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PD .49 crashing when saving patches
by Dario Sanfilippo 11 Oct '18

11 Oct '18

Hello. I just wanted to let you know that PD .49 crashes almost regularly after saving a patch. I've just tested opening PD, saving a simple patch with an inlet~ and another with an inlet, either with the DSP on or off, and it crashes immediately after saving the patch. It does manage to write the file, though. It doesn't crash if the patch that I save is empty. Has anything similar happened to you? I'm on OSZ 10.11.6. Dario

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See "-d" flag's output on windows console
by Henri Augusto Bisognini 05 Oct '18

05 Oct '18

Hi I'm trying to use the windows console to get PD's debug output when using the "-d" flag. The only way i've managed to do that is by using pd.exe -d 3 1>log.txt 2>&1 But this writes the output to a file. Is there any way to see this output on the console itself? (like when running $ pd -d 3 on linux) Cheers Henri.

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Re: [PD] trouble enabling Jack on Ubuntu compile
by Dan Wilcox 05 Oct '18

05 Oct '18

As a followup: https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/INSTALL.txt#L165 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/blob/master/INSTALL.txt#L165> All other steps are very common for the autotools/make paradigm which is explained, more or less, step by step for beginners in the INSTALL.txt. However, I do recognize the fact that most people don't "read the manual" and just ./configure && make. This is great and I'm glad the whole autotools work is making things easier and more people are building Pd themselves. I can see the need for at least some sort of prompt to better suggest what the problem would be. Following Antoine's suggestion, we'll add warning print via https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/508 <https://github.com/pure-data/pure-data/pull/508>: checking for jack_set_xrun_callback in -ljack... no checking for jack_set_error_function in -ljack... no configure: WARNING: JACK development files not found... skipping (See INSTALL.txt) There is a similar pain point when missing the ALSA dev libraries, so we might want to rework the configure script to fail with an error message on Linux unless --disable-alsa is used. Maybe something like: checking for snd_pcm_info in -lasound... no configure: ERROR: ALSA development files not found... stopping (See INSTALL.txt) > On Oct 5, 2018, at 3:50 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Max <abonnements(a)revolwear.com <mailto:abonnements@revolwear.com>> > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] trouble enabling Jack on Ubuntu compile > Message-ID: <1e8afe88-b1fd-5121-a48c-98163745db2c(a)revolwear.com <mailto:1e8afe88-b1fd-5121-a48c-98163745db2c@revolwear.com>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed > > On 04.10.2018 21:59, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: >> On 10/4/18 6:19 PM, Max wrote: >>> This is a reoccurring issue/confusion, maybe there is a way that the >>> configure gives a better hint at what's missing? Or abort if >>> libjack-jack2-dev ist not present when --enable-jack is set (with a >>> proper error message)? >> >> or put it into the documentation, like INSTALL.txt? >> oh no, wait, it's already there. > > Ouch! -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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trouble enabling Jack on Ubuntu compile
by Liam Goodacre 05 Oct '18

05 Oct '18

While compiling Vanilla 0.49.0 on a fresh installation of Ubuntu 18.04, I'm having trouble configuring PD with the --enable-jack option. PD compiles fully, but I don't see Jack in the audio options, and in fact can't get any audio out of it at all. I have installed qjackctl and jack-tools. What am I missing? I'm attaching the output from './config --enable-jack'. The only lines in it which seem to relate to Jack are: checking for jack_set_xrun_callback in -ljack... no checking for jack_set_error_function in -ljack... no Any suggestions?

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weird error when choosing alsa midi linux
by pat pagano 05 Oct '18

05 Oct '18

when configuring alsa midi on 0.49 linux i get this : opened alsa client 129 in:1 out:1 (Tcl) INVALID COMMAND NAME: invalid command name "rase" while executing "rase "$id"" (procedure "pdtk_alsa_midi_dialog" line 67) invoked from within "pdtk_alsa_midi_dialog .gfxstub1a28270 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1" ("uplevel" body line 5) invoked from within "uplevel #0 $docmds"opened alsa client 129 in:2 out:2 opened alsa client 129 in:2 out:2 -- *Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A* Assistant Professor Entertainment Technology Howard Community College Interactive Media & Education Audio Projection & Performance Design *Columbia, Maryland USA* *http://shreeswifty.github.io <http://shreeswifty.github.io>* *(352)226-2016*

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