Pd-list October 2018

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Re: [PD] drag and drop - tkdnd on osx
by Dan Wilcox 01 Nov '18

01 Nov '18

It seems like the plugin could use a companion "drop target" object, like a cnv but registers drops and sends a message like "$arg $arg $arg was dropped on me." > On Oct 29, 2018, at 4:50 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 12:09:46 +0100 > From: oliver <oliver(a)klingt.org <mailto:oliver@klingt.org>> > To: "pd-list(a)mail.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@mail.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)mail.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@mail.iem.at>> > Subject: Re: [PD] drag and drop - tkdnd on osx > Message-ID: <334c4325-e6fe-4b8c-103a-8738ac598912(a)klingt.org <mailto:334c4325-e6fe-4b8c-103a-8738ac598912@klingt.org>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > > hi via Pd-list wrote: >> Hi Oliver, >> >> thanks for these examples. They both work great for me! And I have equiped my playlist with Drag’n’Drop. My structure is like this now (parent) -> (GOP-playlist) -> (GOP-track) so i drop the files into the track. Which works great if i place the GOP at margin 0/0. Now i can have several playlists in my parent and all is fine until the window gets scrolled, then the positions are off and drop is recognized at a wrong place. >> I just want to point to this problem, and have no clue about a solution since your abstractions worked so well but i didn’t really understand them with all the canvas magic. > > it's a really tricky mechanism that needs a lot of info-gathering and > re-calculating. IEMGUT's [receivecanvas] and [canvasposition] objects > are needed in several "nested"-levels to calculate the right > drop-coordinates. it took me a lot of time to figure it out to work more > or less reliably. > > so, for the moment, please stick to the convcention to use > margins "0,0" for GOPs and no scrolling in the parent window. > > you also want to wait a little for the "official" dnd-plugin release. > ATM we're doing the final tests to make it work on all platforms. > > best > > oliver -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Slider/Knob
by Clemens 29 Oct '18

29 Oct '18

Hello List, I would like to use knobs instead of sliders, where can I find them? Cheers Clemens

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drag and drop - tkdnd on osx
by oliver 29 Oct '18

29 Oct '18

hi, so i managed to use IOhannes' dnd plugin with tkdnd2.6 package on a windows machine with success and wanted to do the same on a mac. on the windows machine i put the tkdnd package (version 2.6) into PD's "lib" folder to make the .tcl plugin work on OSX, there seems to be no "lib" folder, nor did i find a "tcl8.5" or "tk8.5" folder anywhere. logically the .tcl plugin would not load and print an error in the PD console that the tkdnd package did not load. does anybody here have some experience with this package on OSX, i.e. where would i have to put it and what versions work with the latest PD ? and another one: WINDOWS MACHINE: WIN7/64, PD 0.49, tkdnd2.6 APPLE MACHINE: OSX 10.9.5, PD 0.49, tkdnd2.8 (didn't find an older version) thanks a lot for any help best oliver -- \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ /////////////// http://pendler.klingt.org ////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ http://oliver.klingt.org \\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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get GOP margins ? ...
by oliver 29 Oct '18

29 Oct '18

hi, is there any way to query a GOP's full coordinates ? i'm looking specifically for the margin values to do some nested GOP mouse tracking. i tried IEMGUTS [canvasposition] but, that only outputs the GOP's size, not its margins. [receivecanvas] ---> setbounds only outputs the coordinates of a real canvas, not a GOP may there be any undocumented voodoo method out there ? best oliver -- \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ /////////////// http://pendler.klingt.org ////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\ http://oliver.klingt.org \\\\\\\\\\\\\\ ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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Accurate midi timings Under Windows
by David Schaffer 27 Oct '18

27 Oct '18

Hi there, I’m using the [midirealtime] object to get precise timing/sync data From my DAW to pd using loopmidi as a virtual driver . It works but the timings seem odd at times, especially when measured with [timer]. I was wondering if anyone knew where exactly the problem is (DAW, OS, pd, midi driver… ?) and how to get around it. Thank you very much. D.S

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Re: [PD] Moving Window to Second Monitor In Ofelia (Jim Ruxton)
by Zack Lee 27 Oct '18

27 Oct '18

Hi Jim, I'm afraid that's not possible with the 1.0.8 version unless you add the feature and rebuild the ofelia external yourself. It will be possible in the 2.0 version and I'm currently working on creating help files. However, I should note that the new version will not be directly compatible with the previous 1.0 version. I will try to release the new version as soon as possible. Best Zack

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[PD-announce] jmmmp library Version 0.51
by João Pais 27 Oct '18

27 Oct '18

Hello everyone, The jmmmp library of abstractions has been updated. Granulator, a Pure Data port of Robert Henke's Granulator, has some new features for external control and audio input/output. You can download it through deken, or follow the link below. For more informations and a tarball file, visit http://bit.ly/jmmmp_051 Best, João Pais _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Multitouch inside Puredata (linux + laptop with touchscreen)
by Jean-Yves Gratius 27 Oct '18

27 Oct '18

Hello, I'd like to share some experiments with multitouch inside puredata native interface. video here <https://vimeo.com/292789121>, project here <https://github.com/jyg/PdMultitouch> To do this, I catch the MT (multitouch)- protocol (B) events from the touchscreen and generate demultiplexed mouse events in puredata. if someone want to test it, I'd be curious to know if it works on other multitouchscreen laptops. I don't know if MT protocol is implemented the same way on different touchscreens. Thanks in advance

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Re: [PD] drag and drop - tkdnd on osx
by Lucas Cordiviola 27 Oct '18

27 Oct '18

Forwarded to the list. -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: Re: [PD] drag and drop - tkdnd on osx Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2018 20:16:07 -0300 From: Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com><mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com> To: hi <joson.android(a)googlemail.com><mailto:joson.android@googlemail.com> Sorry, i make a big mistake and gave you a linux version. (i don't have a mac for testing). Try this new attached. You can safely delete the other one. The tkdnd folder (for OSX) we are testing is from: https://sourceforge.net/projects/tkdnd/files/OS%20X%20Binaries/TkDND%202.8/ Thanx for testing! Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. On 10/26/2018 7:53 PM, hi wrote: > no. Somehow the hole drag’n’drop is not functioning, so as the mouse is not changed with a plus underneeth like in the older dnd examples i found on my computer. Now the console message is: > > Loading plugin: /Volumes/DATA/uni/pd/externals/GUI-plugins/dnd-testing-plugin/dnd-testing-plugin.tcl > - > Drag and Drop on Window > Drag and Drop on Canvas > Usage: > See /Volumes/DATA/uni/pd/externals/GUI-plugins/dnd-testing-plugin/dnd-plugin-help.pd > - > ----------- > UNHANDLED ERROR: dlopen(/Volumes/DATA/uni/pd/externals/GUI-plugins/dnd-testing-plugin/tkdnd/libtkdnd2.8.so, 6): no suitable image found. Did find: > /Volumes/DATA/uni/pd/externals/GUI-plugins/dnd-testing-plugin/tkdnd/libtkdnd2.8.so: unknown file type, first eight bytes: 0x7F 0x45 0x4C 0x46 0x02 0x01 0x01 0x00 > while executing > "load $dir/$PKG_LIB_FILE $PACKAGE_NAME" > (procedure "tkdnd::initialise" line 92) > invoked from within > "tkdnd::initialise {/Volumes/DATA/uni/pd/externals/GUI-plugins/dnd-testing-plugin/tkdnd} libtkdnd2.8.so tkdnd" > ("package ifneeded tkdnd 2.8" script) > invoked from within > "package require tkdnd" > ("uplevel" body line 21) > invoked from within > "uplevel #0 $tclcode" > FAILED TO LOAD /Volumes/DATA/uni/pd/externals/GUI-plugins/dnd-testing-plugin/dnd-testing-plugin.tcl > ————— > > > > >> Am 26.10.2018 um 23:52 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com><mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com>: >> >> Try this complete OSX pkg (attached) >> >> uncompress the folder to your "externals" folder so that it gets loaded. >> >> Tell me if this works >> >> :) >> >> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. >> >> On 10/26/2018 6:41 PM, hi wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> what a great Plugin!!! >>> >>> only i don’t get it to work. None of the features work for me on Pd 0.49.0 on OSX 10.11.6. >>> I get this error in Pds console: >>> >>> - >>> Drag and Drop on Window >>> Drag and Drop on Canvas >>> Usage: >>> See /Volumes/DATA/uni/pd/externals/GUI-plugins/dnd-testing-plugin/dnd-plugin-help.pd >>> - >>> ----------- >>> UNHANDLED ERROR: couldn't read file "/Volumes/DATA/uni/pd/externals/GUI-plugins/dnd-testing-plugin/tkdnd/pkgIndex.tcl": no such file or directory >>> while executing >>> "source [file join $dir pkgIndex.tcl]" >>> ("uplevel" body line 19) >>> invoked from within >>> "uplevel #0 $tclcode" >>> FAILED TO LOAD /Volumes/DATA/uni/pd/externals/GUI-plugins/dnd-testing-plugin/dnd-testing-plugin.tcl >>> ————— >>> >>> Am i doing something wrong? Somehow i feel like something fundamental is wrong on my computer, like settings have to be deleted or something, but this is just a feeling. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Jonas >>>> Am 26.10.2018 um 23:21 schrieb Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com><mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com>: >>>> >>>> Hi, thanx for joining. >>>> >>>> Oliver and I did some mods to the plugin. It allows to drop any file and gives you the file info. >>>> >>>> I'm looking for some feedback. Can you test and tell us what you think? >>>> >>>> See attached. >>>> >>>> My idea is to make a PR on your GIT and then make a Deken release. >>>> >>>> Anyone else reading this is also invited to test. >>>> >>>> :) >>>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. >>>> On 10/26/2018 2:56 PM, me.grimm wrote: >>>>> yeah get rid of the "pd-". thats just for organizing. if I remember correctly just drop whole folder in "externals" and all should work. you should rename like johannes said to "dnd-plugin". the README in wrong. my fault :) >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 3:34 AM Lucas Cordiviola <lucarda27(a)hotmail.com><mailto:lucarda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> The Deken pkg is: >>>>> >>>>> <path>/pd-dnd-plugin/dnd-plugin.tcl >>>>> >>>>> it works out of the box. >>>>> True that the "pd-" in the folder name wasn't necessary. (will update the pkg soon). >>>>> >>>>> All the folder tree explanation was meant for Oliver who is trying to make it work on osx. >>>>> >>>>> Also true that [declare -path] has no effect. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. >>>>> On 10/24/2018 2:38 AM, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote: >>>>>> that's something that puzzled me with your deken package as well: >>>>>> instead of putting the plugin into <PATH> >>>>>> /pd-dnd-plugin/ >>>>>> , why don't you >>>>>> just install it it into <PATH>/dnd-plugin? (so you end up with a file >>>>>> <PATH>/dnd-plugin/dnd-plugin.tcl; with <PATH> in Pd's search path) >>>>>> no fuzzing around with preferences, path and lib whatnot. >>>>>> this is how all GUI-plugins are supposed to be installed. >>>>>> >>>>>> the "pd-" prefix of the github project is probably only there to >>>>>> organize the repositories on github, rather than meant as the canonical >>>>>> installation path. >>>>>> >>>>>> (as a sidenote, i doubt (having not tried it) whether [declare -path] >>>>>> does >>>>>> *anything* >>>>>> for GUI-plugins, as these are loaded on startup of >>>>>> pd-gui only) >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ____________________ >>>>> m.e.grimm, m.f.a, ed.m. >>>>> cornell u., tc3 >>>>> megrimm.net >>>>> ____________________ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> >>>>> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> >>>>> mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> <dnd-testing-plugin.zip>_______________________________________________ >>>> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at<mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> <dnd-testing-osx-plugin.zip>

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PdParty 1.2.0 is out
by Dan Wilcox 27 Oct '18

27 Oct '18

Howdy all, I'm happy to announce that PdParty <http://danomatika.com/code/pdparty> 1.2.0 is live on the iOS App Store. The fruit of your feedback and the last 6-9 months of using PdParty with robotcowboy. The important updates are: * audio update: multichannel support (experimental), speaker/earpiece toggle, bluetooth/airplay output * MIDI overhaul: virtual MIDI ports, bluetooth MIDI, multiple device mode to specify per-device channel sets (like desktop Pd) * updated to libpd 0.11.0 (pd 0.48-2) * min deployment target now iOS 8.0, iOS 6 is no longer supported * updated to support newer device screen sizes (iPhone X, etc) * updated RecordingScene to use AVPlayer with custom controls * speed up outgoing OSC by polling waiting pd messages using CVDisplayLink * updated app icon * fixed incorrect MIDI pitchbend range * show error alert and exit patch view if scene (re)loading failed See the Change Log for more details: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/danomatika/PdParty/master/CHANGES.txt <https://raw.githubusercontent.com/danomatika/PdParty/master/CHANGES.txt> The User Guide <http://danomatika.com/code/pdparty/guide> has been updated with info about the new MIDI mode and audio I/O. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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