Pd-list June 2017

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Re: [PD] Building Pd for MacOS (was MIDI timing FIFO overflowed receiving sysex)
by Dan Wilcox 28 Jun '17

28 Jun '17

> On Jun 27, 2017, at 9:18 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > Do you have Homebrew installed? This will make your life easier. > > $ brew install autoconf > > Building Pd on a Mac is a bit more difficult than previous replies have suggested. I can't recall, but you may need to also install: > > $ brew install automake > $ brew install libtool As mentioned in my previous mail, once we have a stable source distribution tarball after the next release, you will not need autoconf/automake/libtool in order to build Pd on macOS. The autotools are only needed if you're building from the git repo. This is normal behavior for autotools project and those on Linux as well. > You will need to install Tcl. The mac/osx-app.sh says it will do this for you but it won't. Go here and download 8.6.6.X > https://www.activestate.com/activetcl/downloads <https://www.activestate.com/activetcl/downloads> Nope. I wrote the script and I think you're misinterpreting what it does. It does NOT install Tcl/Tk to your system. The osx-app.sh script builds the Pd mac app by taking the Wish.app for the requested version of Tcl/Tk, renaming it, and then packing it with all the guts of the pd build for it to work. The default behavior is to build the app using the included (zipped) Tcl/TK 8.4 Wish.app in the mac folder. What you are referring to is the ability to set the requested version of Tk which can either use the version included in the OS (*not* recommended at this point, TK 8.5 has major issues gui-wise for Pd) or it can build using a newer version of Tcl/Tk. For the second option, the script then calls the tcltk-wish.sh script which simply downloads the Tcl/Tk sources for the requested version, builds the Wish.app as specified (required architectures aka 32 bit or 64 bit or both), and then the sox-app.sh script uses this newer wish to create the Pd app bundle. It installs the Tcl/Tk inside as well, so there is NO NEED to install this custom/newer version system wide. I thought it best to continue the practice of not requiring the user to alter their system in order to use Pd :) Also, if you, like me, end up doing lots of builds of Pd with different versions of Tcl/Tk, you can use the tcltk-wish.sh script directly to build the Wish.app for different versions. Then you can use the osx-app.sh with the -w option to specific which existing Wish.app to use. All of this is documented in the --help printout for both scripts. > But then the problem is that the mac/osx-app.sh script hardcodes the wrong path... you'll need to change the following: > > - cp -R $verbose /System/Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/$SYS_TK/Resources/Wish.app . > + cp -R $verbose /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework/Versions/$SYS_TK/Resources/Wish.app . > > (Basically just remove "/System" because your system Tk is now the one you just installed.) As mentioned above, this is not necessary and can be overridden by using the script command line options. Check --help. > This will allow you to ./osx-app.sh -s 0.47-1 which will create Pd-0.47-1.app and then you can safely delete the "-0.47-1". (I don't know why anyone thought adding this was mandatory...) The historical naming convention allows you to have and use multiple versions of Pd at the same time. Quite useful. OTOH I've been looking into renaming the app as suggested and writing the version string into the app bundle plist as per a "normal" macOS app. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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csoundapi~.pd
by Pagano, Patrick 28 Jun '17

28 Jun '17

Hello i would like to use csoundapi~ if it still exists? I am using debian on raspberry pi and arch linux for organelle, can someone point me to the place to find it? Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A Assistant Professor in Residence Digital Media & Design Web & Interactive Technologies University of Connecticut, Stamford (352)-226-2016

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track piano players score position?
by kubriel 27 Jun '17

27 Jun '17

hallo, i have live midi keyboard musician playing score which he recorded as midi data. i think it should be somehow possible to track position his live play with the help of midi this recording. i dont know how to search for informations about this problem. are there some tools for it? thanks, k -- http://kubriel.servus.at

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Re: [PD] Building Pd for MacOS (was MIDI timing FIFO overflowed receiving sysex)
by Dan Wilcox 27 Jun '17

27 Jun '17

> On Jun 27, 2017, at 9:18 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jun 2017, at 03:05 PM, Paul Rankin via Pd-list wrote: >> This will allow you to ./osx-app.sh -s 0.47-1 which will create Pd-0.47-1.app > > Correction: > > $ ./osx-app.sh -s 8.6 0.47-1 > > (i.e. include the Tk version) If you use the --tk option, you don't have to hack the script paths :) osx-app.sh --tk 8.6.5 0.47-1 -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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stripnote vs spigot
by Simon Iten 27 Jun '17

27 Jun '17

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GEM not working on windows 7 or 10
by Sofy Yuditskaya 26 Jun '17

26 Jun '17

Hello, I downloaded the lates Pd Vanilla for windows, installed on Windows 10 and 7, then used dekken to download and install GEM, but the GEM objects just say "couldn't create" any one have any troubleshooting techniques besides restarting? I'm ostensibly teaching a class with it July 10 lol. Lets see what happens. Sofy

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probability
by Rainer . 26 Jun '17

26 Jun '17

Hi, I wonder if there is an easy way to make probability happen for a gate/trigger sequencer. What I want to do is to set the probability for each step from 0-100% Very much like the Varigate4 from Malekko in the the modular world. Any suggestion/hint? Thanks, Rainer

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Re: [PD] MIDI timing FIFO overflowed receiving sysex
by Dan Wilcox 25 Jun '17

25 Jun '17

Note: On recent versions of macOS (10.7+), you do NOT need to install Xcode to build Pd. You only need to compiler chain & it’s associated tools which can be installed separately and easily by running the following in Terminal: xcode-select --install One of these days I will overhaul the install info :) > On Jun 25, 2017, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu <mailto:msp@ucsd.edu>> > Subject: Re: [PD] MIDI timing FIFO overflowed receiving sysex > Date: June 25, 2017 at 1:37:21 AM GMT+2 > To: mario buoninfante <mario.buoninfante(a)gmail.com <mailto:mario.buoninfante@gmail.com>> > Cc: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > > > If you don't mind recompiling Pd, you can control the MIDI queue size > by editing this line in s_midi.c: > > #define MIDIQSIZE 1024 > > I think it has to be a power of 2. You could make it 0x100000, for instance > (a million-ish). > > To easily recompile Pd on a Mac, install the developer package (compiler > chain which I think is now called Xcode), open a shell, Cd to > Pd-x.app/Contents/Resources/src, edit s_midi.c, and type "make". > > cheers > Miller -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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MIDI timing FIFO overflowed receiving sysex
by mario buoninfante 25 Jun '17

25 Jun '17

Hi All, I'm trying to record a bunch of sysex received from and external machine (sequencer/synthesizer). I tried using both [midiin] and [sysexin], and I've always got the same result: "MIDI timing FIFO overflowed" printed on the console, and a lot of data missing (I'm sure about that, cause I know how big the stored file should be, and also cause it's an external flash dump, so I should be able to send back this sysex to the unit, but when I do this the unit gets stuck). I know for sure that the unit is sending sysex at a really fast rate, as fast as it can (at the moment I don't remember how fast exactly, but I can double check). is there a way to setup a kind of buffer? something that allows you to accumulate this data before they pass through [midiin] or [sysex]. I'd like to give some context (and believe me, I don't really like this kind of comparisons, at all!). as it's something I'm doing for work reasons, I had to try using MaxMSP and I ended up with something that works. the only thing I had to do is changing the parameter related to the "scheduler time interval". so, what happens there is the following: Unit sends these messages as fast as it can, MaxMSP receives and accumulates all the messages, and pass them to the patch one after another at a slower rate then the Unit's one. do we have something similar on Pd? cheers, Mario

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expr issues
by Alexandre Torres Porres 25 Jun '17

25 Jun '17

Hi, given a recent bug I reported https://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/bugs/1293/ and someone's request that we should have a more complete and updated expr-help.pd file, I thought I'd make this more complete revision of the object, so I found another issue, and also have proposed some updates/features. And I'd also like to volunteer to create a complete/full documentation of expr functions to be included in the next pd release. cheers

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