Pd-list June 2017

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Re: [PD] HOA / spatialization approaches for a hemisphere
by Pierre Guillot 05 Jul '17

05 Jul '17

Hi Jesse, With Ambisonics, ideally your loudspeakers should discretize perfectly a sphere, you should have your head at the exact center of this sphere, etc. and perhaps if you forget that your head interferes and the loudspeakers don't generate plane waves you'll be able to reconstruct a coherent sound field... But to avoid these restrictions (because very few people have a full sphere of loudspeakers - or want to ask the audience to be completely crushed at the center of the sphere) there are several techniques : optimizations of the energy and/or velocity vectors, optimizations of the decoding, etc. The problem is that none of the solutions are completely generic. Your choice must be driven by your approach and your goal.The advantage of Ambisonics lies in its intermediary representation of the sound field that allows to apply transformations (rotation or whatever) and to decode for different loudspeakers configurations. But if you just want to spatialize individuals point sources, you can also use VBAP that is perhaps much more accessible. Nevertheless yes, you can surely find a way to decode the sound field for two ring of loudspeakers with Ambisonics (we can discuss it if you want). And one good rule is just to avoid placing sources where the loudspeakers are missing. I don't know if I really answer the question, I hope a bit :) Cheers, Pierre > Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:19:29 -0600 > From: jmejia(a)anestheticaudio.com > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > Subject: [PD] HOA / spatialization approaches for a hemisphere > Message-ID: <3149263781acf8439b762eef943d60e5(a)anestheticaudio.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi List, > > I'm putting together a 32 channel HDLA and looking for spatialization > advice. The configuration will be two rings, one higher than the other, > and I've been thinking a bit smaller/closer to approximate a hemisphere. > But that's flexible - they could be parallel rings if it simplifies > things. > > I have some (limited) experience using HoaLibrary + PD for 2D ambisonics > - so my initial thought was to try the 3d externals there - however I'm > not sure if it actually makes sense to build an abstraction setup for a > sphere of twice as many channels while limiting access to the upper > hemisphere only. I'm assuming there would be some problems with that > approach. > > I found a few papers on mixed-order ambisonics - by Chris Travis and > also the AmbiX crew - but I'm not sure if there's away to implement that > stuff with HoaLibrary. I'm also open to using different software if > something else is recommended instead. > > Thanks for any advice! > > -Jesse >

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legato portamento
by Simon Iten 03 Jul '17

03 Jul '17

dear list, i try to make a monoponic bass synth patch that glides from note to note, but only when more than one note is pressed. here is my attempt that works, but if i play very fast i get stuck notes and a stack overflow error. this seems to come from the counter. when i remove the counter part it all works as expected, but without glide... is there something wrong with my approach? or is there a better (more stable) way to do this? cheers

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deken doesn't find "+"
by Alexandre Torres Porres 30 Jun '17

30 Jun '17

when searching for externals, if you search for [+delay~] from soundhack, the soundhack library doesn't come up, but searching for "delay~" makes it appear. Seems deken has an issue searching for characters like "+", why is that? cheers

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windows 64bit builds
by patrice colet 30 Jun '17

30 Jun '17

Hello, my soundcard drivers are fully ASIO compatible on windows with a 64bit DAW, it's an UAD apollo twin, I'd like to access all I/O but it would only work then with a 64bit build of PureData. The option I've found yet is about compiling PureData with mingw64, so before giving a try I'd like to ask if there are 64bit windows binaries of PureData anywhere? pc

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Cyclone 0.3 beta 2 released
by Alexandre Torres Porres 30 Jun '17

30 Jun '17

We got a new release of Cyclone (0.3 beta 2) - the library that clones Max/MSP objects! Not much news here, but the fact that this version will be the first version from cyclone 0.3 to be included in the next Purr Data release soon. I know I said this about the release of "cyclone 0.3 beta 1", but this time this is for real ;) Most important changes from beta1 are: operators from the cyclone sub library (like >~, <~, etc) now accept the "cyclone/" prefix, to be compatible to Purr Data, which will not requite a library to load these objects as it has the [hexloader] external built-in. I hope vanilla could have [hexloader] built in, but this is too unlikely, so the plan is not only to keep using a library named cyclone to carry these operators, but also to include all objects from cyclone into this single binary pack, in the same way as cyclone was once originally distributed. A couple of other highlights is that we also made major fixes for old [sprintf] and took care of a bug we introduced to [funnel]. This should be up in deken in a day or so, but you can download it here if you like: https://github.com/porres/pd-cyclone/releases And stay tuned for the next Purr Data release cheers

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Re: [PD] Building Pd for MacOS (was MIDI timing FIFO overflowed receiving sysex)
by Dan Wilcox 29 Jun '17

29 Jun '17

> On Jun 27, 2017, at 9:18 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > I'm there > > ./autogen.sh <— you only need to run this if the configure script is not in the distribution (aka cloned from Github) > > so, I cloned from github, which means I need to do this, right? So, I do it, and this is what I get: > "./autogen.sh: line 21: autoreconf: command not found" > > and I'm stuck already :/ > > ./configure > > yeah, moving on, doesn't work, I get "./configure: No such file or directory" - proving I really needed "./autogen.sh" > > well, any ideas? > > thanks You are missing autoconf which is not installed with the command line tools. This is fine. Users are not expected to have the "autotools" in order to build an autotools project. This is the same as on Linux distress except that said tools are installed with the "build-essentials" while they are not on macOS. These autogenerated scripts are not added to the git repo as they likely change all the time and should be generated instead without checking them in. There are two ways to generate the configure script & makefiles (I recommend #1 for now): 1. I (or another developer/maintainer) create a distribution zip which has the configure script & makefiles already generated. This is equivalent to downloading source release. I've generated a distribution snapshot for you at http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/ <http://docs.danomatika.com/pdbuilds/>. Download the pd-0.47.1-* zip, unpack, and run your build from it's directory. As a note, once an autotools project is configured, you can create a distribution zip using: make dist 2. If you want to build from a clone from Github, you can install autoconf, automaker, & libtool, then the autopen script will work (this really only makes sense for developers). Easiest way to do this is to use Homebrew <https://brew.sh/>. Once HB is installed: brew install autoconf automake libtool -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/>

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Building Pd for MacOS (was MIDI timing FIFO overflowed receiving sysex)
by Alexandre Torres Porres 29 Jun '17

29 Jun '17

Hey Dan and all... I remember I tried building Pd a while ago on the Mac and it got all ruined, and I remember I needed to wait until a new "autotools" or something was taken. I got XCode and everything, what else do I need to compile Pd? What instructions should I follow? I'd like to test the newest things added to current development cheers 2017-06-25 8:36 GMT-03:00 Dan Wilcox <danomatika(a)gmail.com>: > Note: On recent versions of macOS (10.7+), you do NOT need to install > Xcode to build Pd. You only need to compiler chain & it’s associated tools > which can be installed separately and easily by running the following in > Terminal: > > xcode-select --install > > One of these days I will overhaul the install info :) > > On Jun 25, 2017, at 12:00 PM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > *From: *Miller Puckette <msp(a)ucsd.edu> > *Subject: **Re: [PD] MIDI timing FIFO overflowed receiving sysex* > *Date: *June 25, 2017 at 1:37:21 AM GMT+2 > *To: *mario buoninfante <mario.buoninfante(a)gmail.com> > *Cc: *pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > > > If you don't mind recompiling Pd, you can control the MIDI queue size > by editing this line in s_midi.c: > > #define MIDIQSIZE 1024 > > I think it has to be a power of 2. You could make it 0x100000, for > instance > (a million-ish). > > To easily recompile Pd on a Mac, install the developer package (compiler > chain which I think is now called Xcode), open a shell, Cd to > Pd-x.app/Contents/Resources/src, edit s_midi.c, and type "make". > > cheers > Miller > > > -------- > Dan Wilcox > @danomatika <http://twitter.com/danomatika> > danomatika.com > robotcowboy.com > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> https://lists.puredata.info/ > listinfo/pd-list > >

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GOP functionality of "text" object
by Orm Finnendahl 29 Jun '17

29 Jun '17

Hi, trying to reorganize the configuration of patches for distribution to instrumentalists, I'm starting to use the recent "text" object with its builtin editor from within pd rather than editing config files with an external editor. As there doesn't seem to be a way to catch the closing of the editor window automatically in order to reload the Text object's contents: It'd be awesome if the editor could get some sort of GOP functionality (an editable rectangular text area with scrollbars on the parent canvas), enabling the implementation of dialog windows with editable text and "ok" and "cancel" buttons in vanilla. Would that be feasible, Miller? -- Orm

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Pd on Tinker Board?
by xm 29 Jun '17

29 Jun '17

Hi all, I have to develop soon a project of Physical computing oriented to the Bee Health. Among other things well have to sonify several data from the hives. I worked previously in several projects with Pd in platforms RPI, or even a dual system RPI + Arduino. The point is that i saw an interesting PCb (Tinker Board) which has higher CPU performance than RPI. I've never worked with this platform, but according that TinkersOS is also based on Debian,.. i'm wondering if is possible to run Pd in this platform (i suppose yes) and if someone has already worked on it, therefore working with Pd in Tinker with no so much tricky proceeds on setting it up. Any experiences? Merci Xavier M.dAAX -- Xavier Manzanares [0034] 659 243 481 Recerca i Disseny d'Interacció Sonora http://noconventions.mobi/daax http://noconventions.mobi/oneshaptiques

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Re: [PD] loading Gem
by Lucas Cordiviola 28 Jun '17

28 Jun '17

Hi, Please also reply to the Pd-list. First find the “Gem” folder on your computer. This place has been selected by you when you downloaded the external. In my case is: C:\Users\Lucarda\AppData\Roaming\pd\Gem Start a new patch and create a [declare] object, like this: [declare -lib C:/Users/Lucarda/AppData/Roaming/pd/Gem] note that inside Pd I have changed the windows path “\” with this “/” . If the object was correctly created you will get this message on the console: ***** GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia GEM: ver: 0.93.3 GEM: compiled: Nov 10 2011 GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) GEM: Chris Clepper GEM: Cyrille Henry GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James Tittle, Hans-Christoph Steiner, et al. GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: GEM: homepage http://gem.iem.at/ GEM: bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ GEM: mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: SSE2 MMX GEM: using SSE2 optimization ****** If you don't, you will have to download “msvcr71.dll” and place it on the Gem folder. And restart Pd and create the [declare] object. Please report if this work, then we will move to the start-up flag if necessary. --- This is for Gem/0.93.3 Please note that I'm a regular audio Pd user, this only makes sure that Gem is correctly loaded, I have no experience on video. Salutti, Lucarda. Mensaje telepatico asistido por maquinas. ________________________________ From: Sofy Yuditskaya <marysghost(a)gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 5:48 PM To: lucarda27(a)hotmail.com Subject: loading Gem Yes hello, thank you for your clarification and reply! I am indeed not sure how to load GEM.

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