Pd-list January 2016

pd-list@lists.iem.at

71 participants
93 discussions

Fwd: Re: fftease 3.0 compatibility with Linux. Was Re: fftease compatibility with Pd-0.46-7
by Ivica Bukvic 28 Jan '16

28 Jan '16

Forgot to copy the list -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Associate Professor Computer Music ICAT Senior Fellow Director -- DISIS, L2Ork Virginia Tech School of Performing Arts – 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico(a)vt.edu www.performingarts.vt.edu disis.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Ivica Bukvic" <ico(a)vt.edu> Date: Jan 27, 2016 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [PD] fftease 3.0 compatibility with Linux. Was Re: fftease compatibility with Pd-0.46-7 To: "Samuel Burt" <composer.samuel.burt(a)gmail.com> Cc: Pd-l2ork is not binary compatible with vanilla, although non-gui objects compiled for pd-l2ork will likely work ok. -- Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Associate Professor Computer Music ICAT Senior Fellow Director -- DISIS, L2Ork Virginia Tech School of Performing Arts – 0141 Blacksburg, VA 24061 (540) 231-6139 ico(a)vt.edu www.performingarts.vt.edu disis.icat.vt.edu l2ork.icat.vt.edu ico.bukvic.net On Jan 27, 2016 5:42 PM, "Samuel Burt" <composer.samuel.burt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, Ivica. > > I assume I can just yank all the precompiled plug-ins out of the > extra/lyon/ folder. There shouldn't be any problem with that as long as I > point my path to the right place? > > Sam > > > > On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 5:29 PM Ivica Bukvic <ico(a)vt.edu> wrote: > >> Pd-l2ork for RPi comes prepackaged with it. >> >> -- >> Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. >> Associate Professor >> Computer Music >> ICAT Senior Fellow >> Director -- DISIS, L2Ork >> Virginia Tech >> School of Performing Arts – 0141 >> Blacksburg, VA 24061 >> (540) 231-6139 >> ico(a)vt.edu >> www.performingarts.vt.edu >> disis.icat.vt.edu >> l2ork.icat.vt.edu >> ico.bukvic.net >> On Jan 27, 2016 5:20 PM, "Samuel Burt" <composer.samuel.burt(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Eric, >>> >>> I've been so excited by the results I got after fine tuning my patch >>> with [pvoc~]. [pvoc~] runs so efficiently. I never quite got [mindwarp~] >>> functioning without major audio problems that I didn't have with a previous >>> version, though. It wasn't a big deal, because the audio routine I've >>> created sounds find without it. >>> >>> Now, that I've got fftease 3.0 running smoothly, I discovered I can't >>> run it on my Raspberry Pi. Would it be possible for me to compile it on >>> Linux? or is 3.0 tuned just for the Mac, these days? Do I need to redo my >>> code to use fftease 2.5? >>> >>> Thanks for the help. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:03 PM Samuel Burt < >>> composer.samuel.burt(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It's working well, now. I think there were also some compatibility >>>> issues with the way the objects used to work and the way they work now. I >>>> was also getting crashes, but limited the warp factor input to mindwarp~ to >>>> be 1/16 to 16. I must have been sending really bad numbers. >>>> >>>> I didn't make clean at the end and I should check my path to make sure >>>> both folders are included. Other libraries I've noticed use only one >>>> folder. Any particular reason to keep them separate? >>>> >>>> Sam >>>> >>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)lists.iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>>

1 0

Re: [PD] fftease compatibility with Pd-0.46-7
by Samuel Burt 27 Jan '16

27 Jan '16

It's working well, now. I think there were also some compatibility issues with the way the objects used to work and the way they work now. I was also getting crashes, but limited the warp factor input to mindwarp~ to be 1/16 to 16. I must have been sending really bad numbers. I didn't make clean at the end and I should check my path to make sure both folders are included. Other libraries I've noticed use only one folder. Any particular reason to keep them separate? Sam On Tue, Jan 26, 2016, 12:04 PM Eric Lyon <ericlyon(a)vt.edu> wrote: > Hi Sam, > > Thanks for the report. I cannot replicate this since I'm not working with > deken. > > To make sure that everything is cool with the distro, I downloaded from > the GIT page: > > https://github.com/ericlyon/fftease3.0-32bit > > Then recompiled everything from scratch: > > eric>make > > eric>perl collect.pl > > eric>make clean > > I can report that FFTease 3.0 works fine on Pd 0.46.7, Mac OS X 10.11.1. > The installation process is to move both fftease32-helpfiles and > fftease32-externals folders to /Users/yourname/Library/Application > Support/Pd/. Then add those folders to the Pd search path. After that, try > loading a single FFTease object, either directly, or by opening one of the > helpfiles. I tested pvoc~ and mindwarp~ which both worked as expected. > > > So FFTease should work fine on 32-bit Pd vanilla. My colleague Ico Bukvic > has also ported FFTease to pd-l2ork. > > -Eric > > > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 11:16 AM, Samuel Burt < > composer.samuel.burt(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> I messaged Eric Lyon off-list, just in case he wasn't on list. That's >> when I also discovered he was hosting fftease on git. We should probably >> update some documentation at puredata.info to point users there. >> >> Big thanks to Eric for taking time at the start of the semester to answer >> my email. >> >> I will now summarize the problem I'm having and the steps I've taken to >> unsuccessfully get fftease working. >> >> I'm on Mac OS 10.9.5. I updated Pd vanilla to 0.46.7 32-bit. >> >> When I load Pd, you will see that zexy and GEM load correctly, but other >> libraries appear to not load, although I can call their externals in Pd. >> Here's my log window: >> >> ============== >> deken-plugin.tcl (Pd externals search) in >> /Users/sburt/Library/Pd/deken-plugin loaded. >> Platform detected: Darwin-x86_64-32bit >> 'deken-plugin.tcl' already loaded, ignoring: >> '/Users/sburt/Library/Pd/deken-plugin/deken-plugin.tcl' >> cyclone: can't load library >> >> ♡♡♡ >> ♡ the zexy external 2.2.6svn >> ♡ (c) 1999-2012 IOhannes m zmölnig >> ♡ forum::für::umläute >> ♡ iem @ kug >> ♡ compiled: May 29 2015 >> ♡ send me a 'help' message >> ♡♡♡ >> >> warning: class 'abs~' overwritten; old one renamed 'abs~_aliased' >> matchbox: OSC-pattern matching code (c) Matt Wright, CNMAT >> warning: class 'wrap' overwritten; old one renamed 'wrap_aliased' >> GEM: Graphics Environment for Multimedia >> GEM: ver: 0.93.3 >> GEM: compiled: Nov 10 2011 >> GEM: maintained by IOhannes m zmoelnig >> GEM: Authors : Mark Danks (original version) >> GEM: Chris Clepper >> GEM: Cyrille Henry >> GEM: IOhannes m zmoelnig >> GEM: with help by Guenter Geiger, Daniel Heckenberg, James Tittle, >> Hans-Christoph Steiner, et al. >> GEM: found a bug? miss a feature? please report it: >> GEM: homepage http://gem.iem.at/ >> GEM: bug-tracker http://sourceforge.net/projects/pd-gem/ >> GEM: mailing-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/gem-dev/ >> GEM: compiled for SIMD architecture: SSE2 MMX >> GEM: using SSE2 optimization >> flatspace: can't load library >> iemlib: can't load library >> hcs: can't load library >> tof: can't load library >> ggee: can't load library >> fftease: can't load library >> ============== >> >> >> >> >> Investigating this, I noted this link >> https://puredata.info/docs/faq/faqsection_view?section=General that >> stated that "as of pd 0.43 saving library paths is not supported, the >> recommended way to include libraries is to use the import object" which >> seems odd because [import] only works for me in Pd-extended. There's not a >> lot of information on this subject there. >> >> While I can access externals from these libraries, cyclone, iemlib, hcs, >> etc., I cannot get the fftease objects to instantiate. >> >> I next deleted my Pd preference files from my user Library and recreated >> my search paths and Libraries-on-load. Still no change. >> >> Log window: >> ============== >> dentist~ 2048 8 >> ... couldn't create >> dentist~ 2048 8 >> ... couldn't create >> fftease/dentist~ 2048 8 >> ... couldn't create >> ============== >> >> Eric suggested downloading and compiling fftease. So I downloaded the >> source and followed the instructions to "make" and then perl script that >> moves all the .pd_darwin files into a folder. I put the external folder and >> help folder in ~/Library/Pd/, but they still didn't work. The "make" >> command seemed to work correctly although it did throw "sed: >> fftease-meta.pd: No such file or directory" a few times when it started and >> it threw "bthresher~.c:139:48: warning: unused parameter 'msg' >> [-Wunused-parameter]" for every object. >> >> Now, that I've recompiled and reinstalled the externals, [pvoc~] won't >> load as I was describing before. >> >> I'm glad fftease is alive and well. The externals are amazing! I just >> wish I could figure out what is going wrong on my end. >> >> Sam >> >> >>

2 3

Re: [PD] FFTease and Pd 0.46.7
by Eric Lyon 26 Jan '16

26 Jan '16

Indeed more specificity would be welcome here, as IOhannes mentioned. Cheers, Eric > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> > To: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at > Cc: > Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:33:29 +0100 > Subject: Re: [PD] FFTease and Pd 0.46.7 > On 2015-12-08 10:59, Si Mills wrote: > > To follow up, I came across FFTease 3.0 > > https://github.com/ericlyon/fftease3.0-32bit on the list. > > > > I rebuilt and it still seems to be exploding the output. Any ideas? > > no. > but i really don't know what you mean. > could you be more specific about the problem you are experiencing? > (which objects, which input? example patch showing the problem). > > if you are using github-issues to discuss your problem, it would be nice > if you could cross-reference to here, so the list dose not accumulate > un-answered questions (which have been resolved elsewhere) > > > https://github.com/ericlyon/fftease3.0-32bit/issues/13 > > > hsm > IOhannes > >

1 0

fftease compatibility with Pd-0.46-7
by Samuel Burt 25 Jan '16

25 Jan '16

Hi list, I'm attempting to use [pvoc~] and [mindwarp~] from fftease 2.5.2 in Pd vanilla 0.46-7. I have verified that [pvoc~] works in Pd-extended 0.43.4, but I just get a quick blast of digital distortion followed by silence when I run the same help file in vanilla. Was there some change to vanilla Pd that doesn't let fftease run? I saw this post from four months ago with no follow up. http://forum.pdpatchrepo.info/topic/9542/fftease-on-vanilla There was mention of an experimental version of fftease 2.5.2.1. The link goes to a page with no download. http://puredata.info/downloads/fftease/releases/2.5.2.1. The code repository goes nowhere https://svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk/externals/fftease . Is fftease dead? I'll also send this to the email address (Eric Lyon) on the project page. Thanks all, Sam

1 0

[job announcement] part time professorship for sound at the academy of media arts in cologne
by hans w. koch 25 Jan '16

25 Jan '16

this might be of interest to some (i think): Kunsthochschule für Medien Köln Academy of Media Arts www.khm.de The Academy of Media Arts Cologne (KHM) is committed to advancing interdisciplinary approaches to media art. Sophisticated theoretical and project-based courses are individually combined leading to a diploma (Diploma I, II). The acquisition of practical artistic experience combined with theoretical and technical competences is considered paramount. The Academy of Media Arts / Department exMedia invites applications for: Professor in Sound (Level W3 according to German civil service employees' tariff) It is a part time position and—for the time being—limited to 3 years. The position is expected to be filled at the earliest possible date, latest for the winter term 2016/17. The chairholder will be expected to cover the extensive field of sound in research and teaching. A focus on performative and poetic practices and diversities with all its possible implications, ramifications and forms of expression through the interconnected genres and medias is desired. We are looking for a composer-performer with an established international reputation who is interested in challenging, integrative and cooperative work with students and colleagues in audiovisual media and open to cross borders between different artistic and musical genres and categories, developing performative concepts in connection with all kinds of visual arts, their codes and forms of expression (including instrument building as well as sound design and intermedia works in space). The decisive criteria is outstanding artistic talent. Further requirements are specified in § 29 Kunsthochschulgesetz NRW. Pedagogical aptitude and language skills are a general prerequisite including the willingness to contribute to the academy’s self-organization. Further prerequisites include: – Profound knowledge of music history including non-western music, relevant to contemporary discourses in music (ethnic diversities). – Competence in the use of recent music technology (hardware and software) as well as traditional instruments. – Profound interest in philosophical questions related to the creation of music as well as its recording. – Profound knowledge of subcultural fields in today’s sound world. Expected is contribution to the development of the of the sound lab (Klanglabor), a platform for experimental projects and advanced research and teaching to be operated and further developed as an independent unit within the departments of Art, Film and Television, exMedia and Art and Media Studies. International activities and the development of a global platform for creative work and publications are of utmost importance. Special attention should be paid to elementary problems of musical understanding (psychological interpretations and physiological explanations) while working with students at the KHM, who are not required to have professional knowledge in sound practices. The KHM strives to raise its female quota in research and teaching positions. Applications by women will be given priority if qualifications and professional expertise are equivalent to those of male applicants and reasons specific to individual candidates do not prevail. Applications by disabled persons and those with equal status according §2 SGB IX (German Code of Social Law) are specifically encouraged Please submit your complete application by February 15, 2016 to Rektor der Kunsthochschule für Medien Köln Peter-Welter-Platz 2 50676 Cologne Germany Phone +49 (0)221-20189-0 Fax +49 (0)221-20189-17 For further information, please contact Thomas Hauch, extension -134

1 0

Re: [PD] Fast convolution of 2 tables using FFT
by JF 24 Jan '16

24 Jan '16

Well, I should say, time domain convolution, using multiplication in the frequency domain ;) -------------------------------------------- On Sun, 24/1/16, JF <saintidle(a)yahoo.com> wrote: Subject: Fast convolution of 2 tables using FFT To: "pd list" <pd-list(a)iem.at>, "Me" <saintidle(a)yahoo.com> Date: Sunday, 24 January, 2016, 21:01 Hi all, I decided to implement my own patch that does frequency domain convolution of two tables. Have a look at the FFTTry02Long03.pd file and you will need the attached abstractions and iem_tab [tab_complex_mul] (in the path for vanilla or just imported with pd-extended). It's very fast compared to iem_tab's [tab_conv] but the output doesn't exactly match, there is some error. It's small and I'm thinking it's because of the blocksize being very large to fft~ the tables all in one go. The ifft~ needs a very large division (blocksize) to normalise the gains so I'm presuming there's some number precision funniness going on here? If anyone could chime in on this? Any feedback/improvement ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, John.

1 0

Fast convolution of 2 tables using FFT
by JF 24 Jan '16

24 Jan '16

Hi all, I decided to implement my own patch that does frequency domain convolution of two tables. Have a look at the FFTTry02Long03.pd file and you will need the attached abstractions and iem_tab [tab_complex_mul] (in the path for vanilla or just imported with pd-extended). It's very fast compared to iem_tab's [tab_conv] but the output doesn't exactly match, there is some error. It's small and I'm thinking it's because of the blocksize being very large to fft~ the tables all in one go. The ifft~ needs a very large division (blocksize) to normalise the gains so I'm presuming there's some number precision funniness going on here? If anyone could chime in on this? Any feedback/improvement ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, John.

1 0

pd-l2ork loading "pix_" libraries (gem)
by Jonghyun Kim 24 Jan '16

24 Jan '16

hi list, I can't load pix_libraries on pd-l2ork 20151230. non-pix libraries works like gemhead, gemwin, but "pix_something" doesn't works. missing libraries? thanks, jonghyun

3 4

missing libraries on GEM via pd-deken (Mac OS X)
by Jonghyun Kim 24 Jan '16

24 Jan '16

hi list and zmoelnig, I'm on OS X 10.9.5(Mavericks), and installed Gem via pd-deken. But there are some(many?) missing libraries. I have to copy from pd-extended "/Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/lib/*" Now it works, but it's very annoying newbies. Could you add the missing libraries to pd-deken? this is the list of missing libraries libSDL-1.2.0.dylib libjpeg.8.dylib libavcodec.52.dylib liblua.5.1.dylib libavutil.50.dylib libmp3lame.0.dylib libbz2.1.dylib libogg.0.dylib libcelt0.2.dylib liboil-0.3.0.dylib libdirac_decoder.0.dylib libopencore-amrnb.0.dylib libdirac_encoder.0.dylib libopencore-amrwb.0.dylib libfaac.0.dylib libopenjpeg.2.dylib libfaad.2.dylib libpng15.15.dylib libfftw3.3.dylib libquicktime.1.dylib libfftw3f.3.dylib libquicktime1 libfreetype.6.dylib libschroedinger-1.0.0.dylib libftgl.2.dylib libspeex.1.dylib libgcc_s.1.dylib libswscale.0.dylib libglib-2.0.0.dylib libtheoradec.1.dylib libgnugetopt.1.dylib libtheoraenc.1.dylib libgsl.0.dylib libvorbis.0.dylib libgslcblas.0.dylib libvorbisenc.2.dylib libgsm.1.dylib libvorbisfile.3.dylib libiconv.2.dylib libx264.115.dylib libintl.8.dylib libxvidcore.4.dylib libjack.0.dylib thanks, jonghyun

1 1

Re: [PD] converting incoming audio/voltages into CV for Eurorack modules
by Ricky Graham 24 Jan '16

24 Jan '16

I’m using the Beagle Bone Black with Andrew McPherson’s Audio Cape + Martin Roth’s “Heavy” (enzienaudio). Works great. > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2016 15:29:38 +0000 > From: "Pagano, Patrick" <pat(a)digitalworlds.ufl.edu> > To: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at" <pd-list(a)mail.iem.at> > Subject: [PD] converting incoming audio/voltages into CV for Eurorack > modules > Message-ID: <1453476580193.32310(a)digitalworlds.ufl.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I would like to hear how people may be converting incoming audio into Control Voltage for eurorack use. > > This year i indulged in building a eurorack synthesizer and i would like to start using some interesting libraries i have found in pure data to control my synthesizer but i want to do it elegantly. > > > For example: I am trying to make a Fractal CV generator with pure data. I am using Ben Bogarts "Chaos" libraries and i am hoping for some ideas on how to convert the streams of data into usable CV outside the box, > > > > > Patrick Pagano B.S, M.F.A > Audio and Projection Design Faculty > Digital Worlds Institute > University of Florida, USA > (352)294-2020

6 9

← Newer
1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10
Older →

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

2000

1999

1998

Pd-list January 2016