Pd-list April 2015

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cube made of 6 square pictures sticked together
by Csaba Láng 18 Apr '15

18 Apr '15

Dear list, I am curious, if anyone made already a cube out of 6 pictures on each side different one, and move or rotate it. I guess video would be possible too. Can anyone share a patch or idea how to make it? Thanks in advance! Popesz

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Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 121, Issue 37
by Dan Wilcox 18 Apr '15

18 Apr '15

I don’t think it’s realistic either. Also, my response of “a couple of seconds” is mine booting into the console, *not* starting pd and other programs I need. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On Apr 18, 2015, at 1:03 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Brian Fay <ovaltinevortex(a)gmail.com <mailto:ovaltinevortex@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [PD] [Bulk] pd in a eurorack modular system > Date: April 17, 2015 at 2:39:40 PM EDT > To: Alessio Degani <alessio.degani(a)ymail.com <mailto:alessio.degani@ymail.com>> > Cc: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > I think my Model B took closer to a minute to fully boot and start my Pd patch. > > The Model 2 seems a little faster, maybe 30 seconds or less, but unfortunately I don't think an almost instant boot time is realistic (I would LOVE to be proven wrong on this). It's definitely one of the more frustrating things, if you want to use the Pi at a gig or something. Then again, it could be a lot worse. > > > The determining factors will probably be what distro you're using, and how many services have to be started up at the very beginning. > > -Brian

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converting audio pulses to bang
by Alexandre Torres Porres 18 Apr '15

18 Apr '15

Hi folks, I've been recently using CV from modular synths to control Pd, and they do send audio pulses for controls (bangs in Pd). I know Supercollider usually trigger processes with pulse audios in a similar manner, by the way, but I digress. That is to say that Pd mostly deals with control bang messages. So, getting to the point. I've been using the usual audio to control conversion, but at every sample to be really accurate and right on the spot. So I'm using [vsnapshot~] with very fast metro bang to get values all the time. I just think that this method is a bit clumsy or complicated. Maybe it could be achieved more simply. Maybe there could be an external that could bang at the exact same time as the output of an object like [impulse~], or an on/off message (1, 0) according to the output of a [train~] object. You know what I mean? cheers

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Re: [PD] [OT]: Gitorious closing down.. alternatives, suggetions, experiences
by Dan Wilcox 17 Apr '15

17 Apr '15

I agree. As with any Git repo, you should be able to create a new empty one, then add it as a remote on your local machine, and push to it. Commit history etc will all go there. The migration tool is probably for wiki, user access, etc info not actually related to Git itself. Also, to answer "Just use GitHub which 'everyone else' (TM) uses and forget it?” Yes, basically. But you don’t have to, it just seems finding projects there is easier. I think 2010 was around the last time I visited Gitorious. As the whole PR system is very nice. I have all my open source stuff there and a private Git setup on my webhost. I don’t pay for their private repos. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On Apr 16, 2015, at 10:30 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: phil jones <interstar(a)gmail.com <mailto:interstar@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [PD] [OT]: Gitorious closing down.. alternatives, suggetions, experiences > Date: April 16, 2015 at 10:30:31 AM EDT > To: Lorenzo Sutton <lorenzofsutton(a)gmail.com <mailto:lorenzofsutton@gmail.com>> > Cc: pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at> > > > Lorenzo, > > If you don't try to use the migration tool and just clone to a local repository and then clone back into your new host, does that also mess up the history? > > Surely git by itself doesn't screw up. > > Phil

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mp3amp~ for windows
by Ian Baxter 17 Apr '15

17 Apr '15

Hi - I'm trying to use the mp3amp~ object, but it is not recognised on my windows machine. I've downloaded the unauthorised package from here http://puredata.info/downloads/unauthorized and other objects work, but not mp3amp~ Can anyone direct me to a windows version?

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[OT]: Gitorious closing down.. alternatives, suggetions, experiences
by Lorenzo Sutton 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

Some of you may be aware that gitorious.org is closing down as it's been acquired by Gitlab.com As I had a few things (including Pd-related e.g. Granita) on there I tried migrating to Gitlab with their automatic migration tool, which seems to have screwed committers (i.e. adding a totally unrelated user who only shares my first name (!)) My motive to use gitorious was: a) open source b) essential, no thrills and just worked. I've also used Bitbucket lately and it's really nice. So what are people using these days? Anyone also having to migrate from Gitorious? If so what do they think? Just use GitHub which 'everyone else' (TM) uses and forget it? Given that even with the 'migration' tool working (and it seems it's not properly), migration is always a bit of a PITA (e.g. links pointing to Gitorious potentially broken..) I might consider something else Thaks for any ideas sharing and hope even if way off-topic this might be of interst to other Pd-ers. Lorenzo.

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Re: [PD] [ot] Click Tracker - Code depository
by Dan Wilcox 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

Github repos have wiki pages and there is a download zip button on the right side that downfall;dos the repo contents as a zip file which means you don;t need to manually create zips. If you need versioning, just make git tags which people can select in the branch drop down menu in the upper left. We use the wiki for libpd, for example: https://github.com/libpd/libpd/wiki ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "João Pais" <jmmmpais(a)gmail.com> > To: PD-List <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at> > Cc: > Date: Wed, 08 Apr 2015 11:32:20 +0200 > Subject: [PD] [ot] Click Tracker - Code depository > Hello list, > > with google code's demise, I'll have to move the files of my Click Tracker > project somewhere else. Since this project isn't really a code project, but > rather a wiki with manuals and a downloadable zip file, it seems to me that > github isn't the best place to keep the project (there is no collaborative > code, contributors, commits, etc). > > Do you have any suggestions of an adequate place to host the files related > with this project? That would be 3 wiki pages, and a zip file with the > current release. I could also move it back to the puredata.info wiki, but > one thing I liked at google was that I had a download count. > > Here is the current Click Tracker site - https://code.google.com/p/ > clicktracker/ > > Thanks for the advice, > > jmmmp > -- Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

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[PD-announce] [OT] unsubscribing users: small change of rules
by IEM - network operating center (IOhannes m zmoelnig) 16 Apr '15

16 Apr '15

hi all, we have incorporated a small change to the rules when people get (semi-)automatically unsubscribed from the various pd-lists: we have started to unsubscribe everybody of whom we are aware of that they mark Pd-list mails as SPAM. background: the various Pd-lists have a lot of subscribers. this means that the mailinglist servers have a relatively high sending frequency. some subscribers come and stay. others find more interersting stuff to do. people who are not very interested in the current ramblings on the Pd-lists have a few options: - ignore (and/or delete) mails received from the Pd-list. - set their delivery options to "no" (so they are technically still subscribed to the mailinglist, but won't receive any emails) - unsubscribe from the mailinglist. some people have also found a 4th way: - mark emails from the Pd-lists as "SPAM", so they are automatically filtered by their provider. now the last option imposes a bit of a problem on the usefulness of the entire Pd-list, since marking these legitimate emails¹ as SPAM has consequences such as: - (distributed) spam filter algorithms learn that Pd-lists' emails are (likely to be) spam. - the mailservers used for distributing the mailinglist get a reputation as "sending SPAM" and end up on various blacklists (so these mailservers can no longer distribute legit emails). both consequences mean that delivery of mailinglist emails does not only stop for the original user (who assumedly wants to get rid of Pd-lists' mails) but also for other people using the same provider and/or whose providers use the same anti-spam systems. we are optimistically assuming that most of these "other" people subscribed to the mailinglists do want to receive these emails. thus, marking (legit) Pd-list emails as SPAM actively harms the communication channels of these "other" people. in order to keep everybody happy, we have decided to unsubscribe everybody who tags Pd-list emails as SPAM (as reported by the SPAM-reporting monitoring services some of the major hosters provide²). while this keeps harm (hopefully) low, it cannot completely undo all negative consequences. therefore i would like to ask you to never tag legit emails as SPAM. if you are no longer interested in emails from the Pd-lists, please *unsubscribe yourself*. Every email from the mailinglist contains the information to do that, both in the headers and the body of the email. thank you for your understanding, happy patching. fgasmdr IOhannes ¹ admittedly there has been the occasional "real" SPAM on the mailinglist, though i cannot remember more than probably a dozen (compared to more than 100k emails in total). ² obviously we cannot unsubscribe people who tag their emails as SPAM and of which we no nothing. -- IEM - network operation center mailto:noc@iem.at _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)lists.iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] [Bulk] pd in a eurorack modular system
by Dan Wilcox 15 Apr '15

15 Apr '15

I’d say at least a couple of seconds, in practice. -------- Dan Wilcox @danomatika danomatika.com <http://danomatika.com/> robotcowboy.com <http://robotcowboy.com/> > On Apr 15, 2015, at 5:29 AM, pd-list-request(a)lists.iem.at wrote: > > From: Joe White <white.joe4(a)gmail.com <mailto:white.joe4@gmail.com>> > Subject: Re: [PD] [Bulk] pd in a eurorack modular system > Date: April 15, 2015 at 5:28:55 AM EDT > To: Alessio Degani <alessio.degani(a)ymail.com <mailto:alessio.degani@ymail.com>> > Cc: "pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>" <pd-list(a)lists.iem.at <mailto:pd-list@lists.iem.at>> > > > Pretty much instant AFAIK > > On 15 April 2015 at 10:07, Alessio Degani <alessio.degani(a)ymail.com <mailto:alessio.degani@ymail.com>> wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm interested in experimenting with this kind of devices. > > I've a question: how long is the boot time? I mean, from switch on to fully operational. > > Thank you > > Cheers > > A.

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bbogart's popup
by Peter P. 15 Apr '15

15 Apr '15

Hi list, trying to compile Ben Bogart's popup object from svn, executing make pd_linux in the popup source directory. Getting the following error though: cc -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -I../../src -I../../../pd/src -o popup.o -c popup.c popup.c: In function ‘popup_activate’: popup.c:306:36: error: unused parameter ‘z’ [-Werror=unused-parameter] static void popup_activate(t_gobj *z, t_glist *glist, int state) [...] cc1: all warnings being treated as errors makefile:61: recipe for target 'popup.pd_linux' failed make: *** [popup.pd_linux] Error 1 Does anyone have a hint what I could be trying next? thank you! Peter

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