Pd-list October 2013

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USB power off from [shell] for eliminating MIDI interface problems
by Ingo 16 Oct '13

16 Oct '13

A while ago a MIDI interface problem came up here that nobody seemed to really know about: All the sudden huge delays in the range of one or more seconds started to happen and then the interface sometimes possibly started playing notes, etc. on its own. I had experienced this quite a few times with Pd on Windows and Linux and already way back (about 25 years ago) with my Akai MPC60 drum sequencer. I finally found out what causes it. When starting the computer the interface gets powered up as well before the system is ready to receive any information coming from the interface. Therefor the interface keeps every input on the MIDI side in a buffer until it can transmit it to the USB port. >From time to time the buffer gets completely overloaded during startup when receiving too much MIDI what in return makes the interface go nuts! The only way to reset it is to disconnect it from power. Now here is my question: Does anybody know how I can power off a USB port (probably using [shell]) to do a reset (USB power off - USB power on) while or after loading the patch? I'm on Ubuntu Natty. Thanks Ingo

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storing parameters in message with sprintf
by Olivier Baudry 16 Oct '13

16 Oct '13

Dear all, Is it possible to write message after sprintf set; function you can see below detail of patcher : #N canvas 0 22 1157 404 12; #N canvas 461 290 450 300 listiter 0; #X obj 32 33 inlet; #X obj 87 32 inlet; #X obj 46 105 outlet; #X obj 47 70 zl iter \$1; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 3 1; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X restore -3669 -1701 pd listiter 2; #X msg -3674 -1674 \$1; #X msg -3742 -1745 store; #X msg -3573 -1667 \$1; #N canvas 461 290 450 300 listiter 0; #X obj 32 33 inlet; #X obj 87 32 inlet; #X obj 46 105 outlet; #X obj 47 70 zl iter \$1; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 3 1; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X restore -3566 -1702 pd listiter 2; #X msg -3459 -1665 \$1; #N canvas 461 290 450 300 listiter 0; #X obj 32 33 inlet; #X obj 87 32 inlet; #X obj 46 105 outlet; #X obj 47 71 zl iter \$1; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 1 0 3 1; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X restore -3452 -1700 pd listiter 2; #X msg -3597 -1494; #X obj -3738 -1623 f; #X obj -3673 -1748 route /harmonizer/hamp /harmonizer/hdelay /harmonizer/hfreq /harmonizer/hwin; #X obj -3672 -1776 r harmonizer; #X obj -3647 -1630 sprintf set \; /harmonizer/hamp %f 10 \; /harmonizer/hdelay %f 10 \; /harmonizer/hfreq %f 10 \; /harmonizer/hwin %f 10 \;; #X msg -3862 -1584 \$1; #X obj -3856 -1522 s harmonizer; #X obj -3864 -1685 nbx 5 14 -1e+37 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 110 256; #X obj -3855 -1552 prepend /harmonizer/hamp; #X msg -4068 -1597 \$1; #X obj -4072 -1638 nbx 5 14 -1e+37 1e+37 0 0 empty empty empty 0 -8 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 256; #X obj -4054 -1556 prepend /harmonizer/hdelay; #X text -3353 -1696 equivalent to zl iter #2; #X text -3546 -1503 writing message after bang on store like /harmonizer/hamp 200 10 \; etc \;; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 8 1; #X connect 2 0 8 0; #X connect 3 0 11 1; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 5 0 11 2; #X connect 6 0 5 0; #X connect 8 0 11 0; #X connect 9 0 0 0; #X connect 9 1 4 0; #X connect 9 2 6 0; #X connect 10 0 9 0; #X connect 11 0 7 0; #X connect 12 0 15 0; #X connect 14 0 12 0; #X connect 15 0 13 0; #X connect 16 0 18 0; #X connect 17 0 16 0; #X connect 18 0 13 0;

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[PD-announce] pdp 0.14.0
by Tom Schouten 16 Oct '13

16 Oct '13

Hi List, Here's an update to PDP: http://zwizwa.be/pd/pdp/pdp-0.14.0.tar.gz Changes: 0.14.0: Port ia32 MMX assembly code to GCC extensions (MMX support on amd64) Add V4L2 support to pdp_v4l (merge with pdp_v4l2) Distill system/zl (Zwizwa Lib) from PDP and libprim/PF code. The configure option "--enable-mmx" now uses GCC intrinsics which work on both 32 and 64 bit intel architectures. The old 32-bit only ASM routines are still available as "--enable-asm-mmx". If you find a problem, post it here or at pdp(a)zwizwa.be for a quicker response. Darcs repo is at http://zwizwa.be/darcs/pdp/ Enjoy! Tom ( Racketeers, be sure to check out some recent Pd DSP work in http://zwizwa.be/rai/ ) _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid
by Sergi Lario 15 Oct '13

15 Oct '13

Yep, In order to compile pdvjtools we really need pd sources, Gem, pdp and ffmpeg library, although not every external use all of these. Using the sources at svn http://sourceforge.net/p/pure-data/svn/HEAD/tree/trunk/externals/pdvjtools/ the Makefile searches for ../../pd, ../pdp/include, ../../Gem/src, and /usr/include/ffmpeg A part of install ffmpeg, what I did was 1-- build a pd-extended using git clones for pd-extended and gem, and a svn checkout for pd-svn, like Full Approach of http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdExtendedSources and http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended (some problems by missing files but solvable ^) and 2-- compile pdvjtools with make clean, make and make install. The first process it's only to get sources in the right place and configure, but we can do in other ways. Here some command lines I did. 1-- sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel$ git clone git:// git.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/pd-extended pd-extended sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel$ svn checkout svn:// svn.code.sf.net/p/pure-data/svn/trunk pd-svn sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel$ git clone git://git.code.sf.net/p/pd-gem/gemgem sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn$ mv pd pd-original sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn$ ln -s ../pd-extended pd sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn$ ln -s ../gem Gem sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn/externals$ ln -s ../../gem Gem sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn/packages/linux_make$ make clean && make install (^ here I found some missing files like iemlib.h over some folders and replaced for a existing one, and a simple file creation for the missing help patches) 2-- sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn/externals/pdvjtools$ make clean sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn/externals/pdvjtools$ make sll@nasus:~/perkals/pd/devel/pd-svn/externals/pdvjtools$ make install At the end, each external folder should contain the binay pd_linux file. As I mentioned before, this is a the way I used to compile pdvjtools today, but no all the steps listed at 1-- are necessary. There is also the possibility to compile each external from its own Makefile. I hope it helps. S. On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:22 PM, Antonio Roberts <antonio(a)hellocatfood.com>wrote: > > Pd-0.43.0 ("") compiled 11:56:34 Jun 16 2011 > > and > > Pd-0.44.0 ("extended-20131015") compiled 11:42:24 Oct 15 2013 > > through full approach sources - > > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdExtendedSources > > and linux_make build - > > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended > > Do you have a list of the commands you used? I not sure what you mean > by what you said above > > Kind regards, > > Antonio > > On 15 October 2013 14:22, Sergi Lario <slario(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi pd-list, > > > > I tested pdvjtools on Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64 GNU/Linux today. > > > > colorgrid, videogrid and pix_preview should compile and run fine. > > > > I tested these externals with > > > > Pd-0.43.0 ("") compiled 11:56:34 Jun 16 2011 > > and > > Pd-0.44.0 ("extended-20131015") compiled 11:42:24 Oct 15 2013 > > through full approach sources - > > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdExtendedSources > > and linux_make build - > > http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended > > > > I hope you can make it run too. > > > > greetings, > > > > S. > > > > > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Message: 1 > >> Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:43:43 -0400 > >> From: "Patrick Pagano" <bigswift(a)ufl.edu> > >> Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? > >> To: "'Antonio Roberts'" <antonio(a)hellocatfood.com> > >> Cc: 'PD List' <pd-list(a)iem.at> > >> Message-ID: <01da01cec434$c955a5e0$5c00f1a0$(a)ufl.edu> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > >> > >> I have had trouble with it too, I?ll check my folder for a binary > tonight > >> and send it to ya > >> > >> > >> > >> pp > >> > >> > >> > >> From: bv3000(a)gmail.com [mailto:bv3000@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio > >> Roberts > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:39 AM > >> To: Patrick Pagano > >> Cc: PD List; Pagano, Patrick > >> Subject: RE: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? > >> > >> > >> > >> I've had trouble compiling that. Does it only work with pd-l2ork? > >> > >> Le 8 oct. 2013 15:06, "Patrick Pagano" <bigswift(a)ufl.edu> a ?crit : > >> > >> https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: bv3000(a)gmail.com [mailto:bv3000@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio > >> Roberts > >> Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM > >> To: Pagano, Patrick > >> Cc: PD List > >> Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? > >> > >> I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid > >> isn't > >> there > >> > >> On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick <pat(a)digitalworlds.ufl.edu> > >> wrote: > >> > Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the > >> > problems with the license. It has great effects though > >> > > >> > Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A > >> > Asst. in Digital Art and Science > >> > Digital Worlds Institute > >> > University of Florida > >> > (352) 294-2020 > >> > > >> > > >> > On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, "Antonio Roberts" > >> > <antonio(a)hellocatfood.com> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> >> Hi pd list, > >> >> > >> >> Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in > >> >> pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in > >> >> pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or > >> >> have an alternative! > >> >> > >> >> Thanks > >> >> > >> >> Antonio > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> ============================ > >> >> antonio(a)hellocatfood.com > >> >> http://www.hellocatfood.com > >> >> ============================ > >> >> > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > -- > ============================ > antonio(a)hellocatfood.com > http://www.hellocatfood.com > ============================ >

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compiling cw_binaural~ for android
by Husk 00 15 Oct '13

15 Oct '13

Hi list, I'm trying to compile cw_binaural~ external for android but I get this error: g++ /home/husk/src/pd/pure-data/src/ -o "src/cw_binaural~.o" -c "src/cw_binaural~.cpp" src/cw_binaural~.cpp: In function ‘void cw_binaural_set_listen_db(t_cw_binaural_tilde*, t_symbol*)’: src/cw_binaural~.cpp:78:20: error: ‘logstring2pdterm’ was not declared in this scope src/cw_binaural~.cpp: In function ‘void cw_binaural_set_cipic_db(t_cw_binaural_tilde*, t_symbol*)’: src/cw_binaural~.cpp:89:20: error: ‘logstring2pdterm’ was not declared in this scope src/cw_binaural~.cpp: In function ‘void cw_binaural_set_hrtf_db(t_cw_binaural_tilde*, t_symbol*, t_symbol*, t_symbol*, t_symbol*)’: src/cw_binaural~.cpp:132:20: error: ‘logstring2pdterm’ was not declared in this scope src/cw_binaural~.cpp: In function ‘void cw_binaural_tilde_free(t_cw_binaural_tilde*)’: src/cw_binaural~.cpp:141:20: error: ‘logstring2pdterm’ was not declared in this scope src/cw_binaural~.cpp: In function ‘void* cw_binaural_tilde_new(t_symbol*, int, t_atom*)’: src/cw_binaural~.cpp:178:24: error: ‘logstring2pdterm’ was not declared in this scope src/cw_binaural~.cpp:192:20: error: ‘logstring2pdterm’ was not declared in this scope make: *** [src/cw_binaural~.o] Error 1 The external seems to use TemplateLibrary, so it should compile, rights? what the problem here? thanks in advance husk -- "l'importante nella vita é avere pregiudizi a priori su tutto" Jean-Paul-Sartre www.estereotips.net

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List of important computer music works
by Samuel Burt 15 Oct '13

15 Oct '13

I've been teaching classes for several years now and always provide examples of electronic music from the origins to the 70s. I've also been integrating a little historical background of modern dance music. What I'm really lacking is a substantial list of important works that have been made possible by personal computers, especially those that incorporate interactivity or couldn't have been made without intense digital processes like FFT or granularization. I'm familiar with a few, but is there already a good list to draw from so I don't get bored from repetition? Works created in Pd are even better for selling the idea of learning to program interactive media. Thanks

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Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid
by Sergi Lario 15 Oct '13

15 Oct '13

Hi pd-list, I tested pdvjtools on Ubuntu 12.04 x86_64 GNU/Linux today. colorgrid, videogrid and pix_preview should compile and run fine. I tested these externals with Pd-0.43.0 ("") compiled 11:56:34 Jun 16 2011 and Pd-0.44.0 ("extended-20131015") compiled 11:42:24 Oct 15 2013 through full approach sources - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/WorkingWithPdExtendedSources and linux_make build - http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdExtended I hope you can make it run too. greetings, S. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2013 10:43:43 -0400 > From: "Patrick Pagano" <bigswift(a)ufl.edu> > Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? > To: "'Antonio Roberts'" <antonio(a)hellocatfood.com> > Cc: 'PD List' <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: <01da01cec434$c955a5e0$5c00f1a0$(a)ufl.edu> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I have had trouble with it too, I?ll check my folder for a binary tonight > and send it to ya > > > > pp > > > > From: bv3000(a)gmail.com [mailto:bv3000@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio > Roberts > Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 10:39 AM > To: Patrick Pagano > Cc: PD List; Pagano, Patrick > Subject: RE: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? > > > > I've had trouble compiling that. Does it only work with pd-l2ork? > > Le 8 oct. 2013 15:06, "Patrick Pagano" <bigswift(a)ufl.edu> a ?crit : > > https://github.com/pd-l2ork/pd/tree/master/externals/pdvjtools > > > -----Original Message----- > From: bv3000(a)gmail.com [mailto:bv3000@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Antonio > Roberts > Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 6:33 AM > To: Pagano, Patrick > Cc: PD List > Subject: Re: [PD] Alternative to pdp_colorgrid? > > I'm running pd-extended 0.43.4 on Ubuntu Linux 13.04 and pdp_colorgrid > isn't > there > > On 28 September 2013 05:02, Pagano, Patrick <pat(a)digitalworlds.ufl.edu> > wrote: > > Run Linux and its there! I gave up on pdp on Mac because if the > > problems with the license. It has great effects though > > > > Patrick Pagano B.S,M.F.A > > Asst. in Digital Art and Science > > Digital Worlds Institute > > University of Florida > > (352) 294-2020 > > > > > > On Sep 27, 2013, at 10:29 PM, "Antonio Roberts" < > antonio(a)hellocatfood.com> > wrote: > > > >> Hi pd list, > >> > >> Is there an alternative object to pdp_colorgrid? I believe it was in > >> pidipi (which has removed in the latest pdextended) and also in > >> pdvjtools (doesn't compile). It would be great to have it back or > >> have an alternative! > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Antonio > >> > >> -- > >> ============================ > >> antonio(a)hellocatfood.com > >> http://www.hellocatfood.com > >> ============================ > >> > >

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find out if a specific table exists
by Marian Weger 15 Oct '13

15 Oct '13

Hello list, is there a way to find out, if a specific table exists? I would like to have something like: [symbol tablename( | [table_exists?] | [tgl] I already found a workaround, but obviously it always prints an annoying error message, if the table doesn't exist: [symbol tablename( | [expr size("$s1")] | [tgl] ... marian

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matrix~
by Olivier Baudry 15 Oct '13

15 Oct '13

Dear all in, Pd extended 0.43.4 on Mac OS Lion, matrix~ seems to be broken, it's not possible to use matrix connect or disconnect message. Maybe because message are not in wright syntax. ( help of matrix~ is not present in package)

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[PD-announce] Call for Proposals: Participatory City 2014
by Medialab-Prado Comunicación 14 Oct '13

14 Oct '13

*MEDIALAB-PRADO* *Plaza**de las Letras** **Calle Ala**meda, 15** **28014 Madrid** ****www.medialab-prado.es** * Call for Proposals: Participatory City 2014 AARHUS -- BERLIN -- BRUSSELS -- DESSAU -- HELSINKI -- ISTANBUL -- LINZ -- LIVERPOOL -- MADRID -- MARSEILLE -- MELBOURNE -- MONTREAL -- RIGA -- SAO PAULO -- VIENNA -- ZAGREB In 2014, with the topic of Participatory City, the Connecting Cities Network will in particular discuss the question of how urban media facades as a temporary field of interaction can become a catalyst for shared encounters and a platform for urban activism. We invite artists to submit projects that enable citizens to experience new ways of interaction with the urban environment and to understand, respond to, evaluate and question the transformations that the city is undergoing. Extended deadline: October, 20. 2013. More information: http://medialab-prado.es/article/callforproposalsparticipatorycity2014 and http://www.connectingcities.net/node/32 _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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