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call for [comport] testing!
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 12 Mar '12

12 Mar '12

I just committed a fix for the race condition that happens when a serial port gets disconnected on GNU/Linux and Mac OS X. Please test heavily on those platforms, including yanking out the USB plug and going out of range with a bluetooth. It should just cleanly close the serial port now. http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ Basically, when a serial port is open using [comport] and the connection gets broken, like if the USB gets pulled, then comport gets stuck in the while(select()) loop in comport_tick(). I changed "if (err >= 0)" to "if (err > 0)" in this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revision&revisio… Then added handling for err == 0 in this commit: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=revision&revisio… Hopefully this doesn't cause any issues because it fixes a big problem :-) .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "We have nothing to fear from love and commitment." - New York Senator Diane Savino, trying to convince the NY Senate to pass a gay marriage bill

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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?
by Marco Donnarumma 12 Mar '12

12 Mar '12

> > "marcodsad-Xth-Sense-lib-5299660" seems to be like a github generated > directory name, which you cannot do much about. > i guess the best approach is to properly tag the release at github, then > download the zip extract it, rename the root-folder re-zip it with the > new name and upload it to e.g. puredata.info/downloads > > github#s download-tagged-versions feature is great but i don't think it > is targeted at the super lay audience which you seem to be talking about... > > Yep, that's probably the best idea. Simple and clean. btw, there is no way to change that automatic github name, isn't it? M > > mtf > IOhannes > -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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[PD-announce] Final Call for Workshop Position Papers- Designing Musical Interactions for Mobile Systems, DL 16.03.2012
by Koray Tahiroglu 12 Mar '12

12 Mar '12

Dear colleagues and friends, We would like to bring to your attention that the deadline for position paper submission to workshop on Designing Musical Interactions for Mobile Systems ( http://sopi.media.taik.fi/mobilemusic/ ) is approaching. If you have any questions about paper submission or the workshop, please contact the organizers through email, mobilemusic2012(a)gmail.com Workshop at Designing Interactive Systems (DIS) conference 2012: Designing Musical Interactions for Mobile Systems Tuesday 12 June 2012, Culture Lab Newcastle SUBMISSION Please download the position paper template from the workshop website, http://sopi.media.taik.fi/mobilemusic Email the 2-pager position papers submission in PDF format to: mobilemusic2012(a)gmail.com Deadline for submissions is March 16, 2012. Notification of acceptance by April 16, 2012. ** All workshop participants must register for both the workshop and for at least one day of the main conference. For some early indication on prices, please see the last year's workshop & conference pricing: http://www.dis2010.org/index.php?registration Organizers: Koray Tahiroglu, Aalto University School of Arts, Design and Architecture (FI) Atau Tanaka, Goldsmiths Digital Studios, University of London (UK) Adam Parkinson, Culture Lab, Newcastle University (UK) Stephen Gibson, School of Design, Northumbria University (UK) best, Koray ------------------------------------- M.Koray Tahiroğlu Department of Media, Aalto University School of Arts, Design and Architecture http://sopi.media.taik.fi/ http://mlab.taik.fi/~korayt tel: +358 45 233 6272 _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] Editing CSS style, make pd.info better? [WAS: puredata.info site design provocation]
by Marco Donnarumma 12 Mar '12

12 Mar '12

> > is it possible as well to see a screenshot of some wiki page? or better to post the css code here as we can apply it locally and browse everywhere. > attached. But it includes only the classes I modified, i.e. it's not the full css style. and it might not be hyperprecise. > > > - the link to the Belorussian translation looks a bit orphaned, but I > > don't know where else it could go > i agree, maybe it should move in the documentation section. > yep, let's do that. > > [snip] blocks (News is already on main page only, Recent Changes appear > on > > some sub pages but not on each). > That is a very good point ( even if it's not css...), there is no point > of having these blocks on every page. We can imagine a news listing and > a recent changes listing inside the div content, and make a "about pd" > section. ( like http://www.blender.org/ ) > > definitely. > - if the main page ever gets populated with News et al, it would be > > nice to have a cover picture however. Eventually rotating cover > > pictures, possibly linked. Maybe a crazy idea, but wouldn't it make > > sense to have a carousel-like thing showing up items from the > > Exhibition on the main page? > this is very easy with vimeo, but the problem of the" vimeo video group" > is that it is not based on the same curation limit as for the exhibition > section, people can add their own videos. > agree, see my previous message. I think it's ok to have the vimeo channel and the exhibition page. Anyway, almost nobody post things to the exhibition page, so we should find a way to make it more interesting to post there. > > > - all i currently see when clicking Community is "check out > > DevelopmentWiki". Is this a temporary or very necessary state here? > when you click "development" you mean? This can be normally easily > changed but if Iohannes has done that there must be a reason. > > other comments: > - I think it should be nice to have a large picture header, maybe > something like max has done for vimeo: > https://vimeo.com/groups/puredata > it will "keep together" the whole page. > sure, but cannot do it from the css. So I'm waiting to get the css done first. > - I find the main content div not large enough > Ok, I tried to find a balance, actually I'm afraid this is already to wide for a mobile browser. Can someone apply the css class of the body and see what happens on a mobile? - i find the navigation menu too padded, specially on the left > Can do less padding, I just like wide spacey things... :) what other ppl think? > > tanks for your work, > we all really deserve a better looking portal. -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Re: [PD] tunetof scl2pd.py
by Billy Stiltner 12 Mar '12

12 Mar '12

No errors with sending the command to shell. I did get some errors though with a few runs of it in a terminal here is an example. ValueError: could not convert string to float: bj@bj-HP-Pavilion-dv5- Notebook-PC:~/Desktop/tunetof$ python scl2pd.py stiltnerphihr16.scl Traceback (most recent call last): File "scl2pd.py", line 69, in <module> tab = convert_scala(file) File "scl2pd.py", line 58, in convert_scala tab.append(ratio2float(l)) File "scl2pd.py", line 21, in ratio2float return float(r[0]) / float(r[1]) ValueError: could not convert string to float: also in tunetof.pd there was an error with nonoctave tunings here is a correction #N canvas 478 73 737 667 10; #X obj 526 362 table \$0-tuning; #X obj 102 214 t a a; #X obj 102 172 inlet; #X obj 102 551 outlet; #X obj 102 504 * 1; #X obj 261 136 inlet; #X obj 526 333 s \$0-tuning; #X obj 447 155 inlet; #X obj 102 403 tabread \$0-tuning; #X obj 447 194 route symbol; #X msg 556 306 const 0; #X msg 447 237 read \$1; #X obj 319 182 inlet; #X obj 526 274 list prepend 0; #X obj 526 228 t a b; #X text 293 162 notes per octave; #X text 234 116 base frequency; #X obj 238 463 * \$1; #X obj 281 373 div \$2; #X obj 102 379 mod \$2; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 length 0; #X obj 126 70 inlet; #X obj 161 209 + 1; #X obj 72 183 b; #X obj 116 249 f; #X obj 116 276 outlet; #X obj 148 183 1; #X obj 132 211 f 1; #X obj 206 213 0; #X obj 126 104 t a b b; #X text 37 37 list-len: calculate length of a list.; #N canvas 0 0 533 407 drip 0; #X obj 64 206 list split 1; #X obj 64 123 until; #X obj 64 181 list append; #X obj 194 206 bang; #X text 146 90 First store list \, then start the loop; #X text 163 118 "until" bangs its output until told to stop by a "bang" to its right inlet.; #X text 182 160 Store the remaining list.; #X text 239 205 third outlet of "split" tells us to stop.; #X obj 64 243 outlet; #X obj 64 57 inlet; #X text 237 44 From list-help.pd; #X obj 143 243 outlet; #X obj 64 86 t b a; #X connect 0 0 8 0; #X connect 0 1 2 1; #X connect 0 2 3 0; #X connect 0 2 11 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 3 0 1 1; #X connect 9 0 12 0; #X connect 12 0 1 0; #X connect 12 1 2 1; #X restore 72 152 pd drip; #X connect 0 0 8 0; #X connect 1 0 6 1; #X connect 2 0 6 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 5 0 6 1; #X connect 6 0 1 0; #X connect 6 0 3 1; #X connect 7 0 3 1; #X connect 8 0 10 0; #X connect 8 1 5 0; #X connect 8 2 7 0; #X connect 10 0 2 0; #X connect 10 1 3 0; #X restore 414 302 pd length; #X obj 414 324 - 1; #X obj 521 510 symbol \$3; #X obj 521 488 loadbang; #X obj 521 539 select 0; #X msg 572 567 read \$1; #X obj 572 591 s \$0-tuning; #X text 37 18 Arguments (all are optional):; #X text 112 43 1) base frequency; #X text 113 62 2) notes in octave; #X text 112 81 3) filename of tuning table; #X text 410 130 filename or float list to set tuning table; #X text 482 464 Init tuning table from file \$3; #X floatatom 414 343 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 281 430 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 238 482 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 325 382 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 105 423 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X floatatom 107 526 7 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 398 459; #X obj 414 361 tabread \$0-tuning; #X obj 281 408 expr pow($f2 \, $f1); #X connect 1 0 19 0; #X connect 1 1 18 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 3 0; #X connect 4 0 38 0; #X connect 5 0 17 1; #X connect 7 0 9 0; #X connect 8 0 4 0; #X connect 8 0 37 0; #X connect 9 0 11 0; #X connect 9 1 14 0; #X connect 10 0 6 0; #X connect 11 0 6 0; #X connect 12 0 18 1; #X connect 12 0 19 1; #X connect 13 0 6 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 14 0 20 0; #X connect 14 1 10 0; #X connect 17 0 4 1; #X connect 17 0 35 0; #X connect 18 0 36 0; #X connect 18 0 41 0; #X connect 19 0 8 0; #X connect 20 0 21 0; #X connect 21 0 18 1; #X connect 21 0 19 1; #X connect 21 0 33 0; #X connect 22 0 24 0; #X connect 23 0 22 0; #X connect 24 1 25 0; #X connect 25 0 26 0; #X connect 33 0 40 0; #X connect 40 0 41 1; #X connect 41 0 17 0; #X connect 41 0 34 0;

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some observations and questions on Pd-ext 0.43.1 beta
by Marco Donnarumma 12 Mar '12

12 Mar '12

Hi folks, yesterday I tried my Xth Sense system on a student's machine running Ubuntu 11.10 and Pd-ext 0.43.1 from the latest autobuilds. - Strangely enough, Pd would start with real-time flag at anytime (from a launcher of from a terminal without any flag). We had to do $ pd-extended -nrt to get rid of the real time. Why this happens? - is Flatspace being removed from Pd-ext? I couldn't find it in the extra folder. I needed it for [line3] - The GUI has a bad responsiveness, nbx are slow, sliders and graphs are updated every 1 second or similar. Usually it works flawlessly both on Linux 10.04 and older and OSX. Is this being experienced by someone else with the same system? I would like to understand whether this depends on my software, on the Ubuntu distro, or Pd-ext 0.43.1. We improved Pd GUI performance by replacing Unity with Gnome Classic, but still the GUI was quite unresponsive. any hint is appreciated. thanks! -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Re: [PD] Am I in time to propose the Xth Sense lib to be included in Pd-ext?
by Marco Donnarumma 12 Mar '12

12 Mar '12

> > > Sadly it's too late to include Xth Sense to Pd-ext, I already ask for > the inclusion of PdMtl and Mtl Abstraction in the next Pd-ext (0.43). > > ooh :/ wow, PdMtl is out there since ages... I always thought why it is not yet included. Quoting Hans > " > ... > I think its too late for 0.43, but 0.44 is definitely possible. With > much less work, we can make it easy for people to find and install > themselves, and that takes effect once you do it. Only one small thing > has been added since November, so its in feature freeze. > > I see, fair enough. But why it is such a hassle? If the library is ready according to the community guidelines, is it still a pain to include it? > - Having it on github will make that a easier too. You don't need to > make release tarballs, for example, you can just tag a release in git, > ie "git tag v0.1", then github makes a link to a downloadable tarball. > > Xth Sense is happily on github already. > - adding it to the puredata.info/downloads section will make it easy for > people to find > > - and making sure it works fine when you drop it into ~/pd-externals, > ~/Library/Pd, etc. > did that to facilitate installation process during my workshop. Will add it to downloads when it will be ready. -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Some more float weirdness/fun
by Lorenzo Sutton 11 Mar '12

11 Mar '12

Or, beware of trying to compare floats with [==] ... Lorenzo.

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Is there a way to block/filter Mathieu ?
by mahatGma rabintrah 11 Mar '12

11 Mar '12

I would love to receive daily digest without Mathieu's unnecessary / arrogant comments. Is there a way to filter his posts?

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about problem with pd on mac os lion
by Contra LUO 11 Mar '12

11 Mar '12

Hi there, I have a problem with pd on mac os lion. I have used to running pd-extended 0.42, but when I installed 0.43 and after uninstalling 0.43, I cannot start any version of pd or pd-extended. I have tried every version include 0.42/0.43/pd/pd-extended/double/latest... I googled some Hans' posts, tried to install TCL, restored my hosts, and removed a pirated software (really sorry for this), but it still cannot work... The logs of starting 0.42 are like this "defaults: The domain/default pair of (/Users/***/Pd-0.42-6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../../org.puredata.pd, audiobuf) does not exist ". The log of starting 0.43 is only one: "ERROR: failed to allocate port, exiting!" I tried this just now, but still not work...... http://puredata.hurleur.com/viewtopic.p … 468#p28468<http://puredata.hurleur.com/viewtopic.php?pid=28468#p28468> Are there some suggestions? Thanks very much! (I also post this problem on pd forum, but I just want to make it out quickly. Thanks. http://puredata.hurleur.com/viewtopic.php?pid=29617#p29617)

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