Pd-list February 2012

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Re: [PD] Xth Sense awarded first prize first prize at Guthman Musical Instrument Competition
by Marco Donnarumma 19 Feb '12

19 Feb '12

Thanks guys! (sorry for the double "first prize" in the subject) I'm honestly flattered, as the quality of the ideas presented at the event was very high. A rewarding experience overall, great conversations, inspiring jurors. Will post a report as soon as I get back home. And besides, I'm proud to keep on the "fame" of the Pure Data tradition in this field following the work of Jaime... which was a great inspiration for me. who will be the next one?? :) cheers, Marco p.s. Scott I didn't know you work in Pd, should have told me! Congratulations Marco! I was lucky enough to see your performances during the competition. Great work! Scott ~~~~~~~~~ Congratulations! Well done! J -- Marco Donnarumma New Media + Sonic Arts Practitioner, Performer, Teacher, Director. ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Research: http://res.marcodonnarumma.com | http://www.thesaddj.com | http://www.flxer.net Director: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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unpack type mismatch?
by Christoph Kuhr 19 Feb '12

19 Feb '12

Hi, i route OSC messages an then unpack it. [unpack 0 0 0 0] with one OSC controller i get the error: error: unpack: type mismatch unpacked: 3 14.8743 14.0385 20 with another OSC Controller nothing: unpacked: 3 85.539 85.3286 20 unpacked: 3 15.0827 85.9539 20 why does unpack behave like that?

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Re: [PD] Pd-extended 0.43 tests builds usable again
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 19 Feb '12

19 Feb '12

Cocoa is what Apple calls their native GUI toolkit. Pd uses Tcl/Tk for the GUI, so its not Cocoa. Apple Mail is definitely Cocoa, as are basically all of the apps that Apple includes. Something like Firefox is not a Cocoa app. .hc On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 18:14 +0100, Joson Android wrote: > I'm not sure whether it is a problem with Pd at all. With other apps it works though, tested it with mail. I don't understand the cocoa hint. But as i said, its not my biggest concern to get it running, so please don't you put too much brain in it either.. > > best, > > jo > > > On 01.02.2012, at 18:06, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > > Are you sure this is a problem with Pd? Try other apps and see what happens there. For me the Language Switcher launches the wrong Pd, but that's a bug in that app, I think. I just tried Language Switcher on some other apps, it doesn't seem to like non-Cocoa apps. I recommend contacting the Language Switcher developer about that. > > > > .hc > > > > On Feb 1, 2012, at 11:45 AM, Joson Android wrote: > > > >> now i used the build of first of feb. osx pd-extended105x86 > >> > >> still the same: > >> > >>>> For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. > >> > >> it would be cool to switch, but i can live with both: pd in German (my mother tongue), or my operating system in English.. > >> > >> best wishes, > >> > >> jo > >> > >> On 30.01.2012, at 20:52, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Did you use today's or yesterday's build? > >>> > >>> .hc > >>> > >>> On Jan 30, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Joson Android wrote: > >>> > >>>> For me it also shows 28 languages, but language switcher crashes when i try to open Pd through it, and has no effect, if i try opening pd without it. > >>>> > >>>> best wishes, > >>>> > >>>> jo > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On 29.01.2012, at 20:38, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Jan 29, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Max wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Am 28.01.2012 um 19:52 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: > >>>>>>> On Jan 27, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Max wrote: > >>>>>>> Am 24.01.2012 um 15:37 schrieb Joson Android: > >>>>>>>>> One thing bothers me: How to change the language from German to English? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> MacOSX10.6.7 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Apple allowed to change the language of a single Application through the properties (Ctrl-i) on the Application Icon until OS 10.5 but removed this feature with 10.6 > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Now there are 3rd party tools which let you still do that: > >>>>>>>> http://www.tj-hd.co.uk/en-gb/languageswitcher/ > >>>>>>>> however this app doesn't see the languages in Pd it claims it's only in english. > >>>>>>>> This might be a bug of that specific tool or a bug how the multiple languages are implemented in Pd(-ext). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I just tested today's build with Language Switch, it shows 28 languages. Try it out and let me know if it doesn't work for you. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi hans, thanks for that - i downloaded Pd-0.43.1-extended-macosx105-i386.dmg and unfortunately it doesn't work for me, the Pd icon is missing too. If i try to open the plist in xcode it tells me that it has been corrupted. > >>>>>> replacing it with the one you posted makes the program not launchable any more. > >>>>> > >>>>> Oops, silly bug, I forgot about how limited Mac OS X's built-in sed is. I checked the fix in, or if you want to test now, replace the Info.plist in the app with the attached one. > >>>>> > >>>>> .hc > >>>>> <Info.plist> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> > >>>>> If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> “We must become the change we want to see. - Mahatma Gandhi > >>> > >> > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste > > > > >

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GUI and DSP
by Jean-Marie Adrien 18 Feb '12

18 Feb '12

Hello list reading everywhere that GUI takes enormous amount of CPU. More precisely : does a GUI element, say a slider monitoring a signal, require lots of CPU in anycase -even when for instance it is invisible somewhere deep in a subpatch-, or is it requiring lots of CPU only when displayed in front window ? JmA

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Pd-extended can't see $0-arrays ???
by Фывапр Олджэвич 18 Feb '12

18 Feb '12

Hi, list ! Pd-extended version 0.42.5 and Windows 7. Why can't I create Arrays with names like " $0-tab " ? So i can actually create, but can't write into it. PD writes " error: 0-tab: no such table " It doesn't see $ ?? so i rename the array to " 0-tab " . and now can write to it via message [ read -resize $1 $0-tab ( but the table is " 0-tab " - not " $0-tab " . So it is not unique inside-name ... And i can't use the sampler as multi abstraction - i get crosstalks.. it is written in tutorials that i can name the table with $0-names ... but PD seems doesn't understand such array names.. so what to do if i need 50 samplers working each by it's own with unique samples ??? a bug maybe ? Tanks in advance for help !! serg

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Fwd: [PD-dev] New snapshot of pd-l2ork available -- feedback appreciated
by Patrice Colet 18 Feb '12

18 Feb '12

Hello, I've tried to run makefile.mingw but it ends up (after a clean ^^) with these error messages: s_inter.c:83:22: fatal error: execinfo.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. s_audio.c:18:26: fatal error: sys/resource.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. x_misc.c:23:23: fatal error: sys/times.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. x_list.c:15:20: fatal error: alloca.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. make: *** [makefile.dependencies] Error 1 it seems the compiler is calling linux headers for reasons I don't really get, I don't really have time to go further. Colet Patrice ----- Mail original ----- > De: "Ivica Ico Bukvic" <ico(a)vt.edu> > À: pd-list(a)iem.at, pd-dev(a)iem.at > Envoyé: Jeudi 26 Janvier 2012 07:08:35 > Objet: [PD-dev] New snapshot of pd-l2ork available -- feedback appreciated > > Fellow pd enthusiasts and devs, > > Apart from a couple of fixes of bugs that surfaced after we > implemented > infinite undo last month, as of this evening pd-l2ork has added > another > important feature: moving gop-ed objects via tag. This means that > even a > 100000-point array will now be moved via gui with a single command > with > minimal changes to the core pd code, rather than redrawing the entire > array every time the array is moved. Same goes for GOP objects and > scalars. Needless to mention, this is the first time that my netbook > allows me to move large arrays on screen as if they were simple > objects :-) > > If interested, check out the git at https://github.com/pd-l2ork > > x86-64 and i386 builds coming up soon... I am uploading 64-bit builds > as > I type this, i386 should be up sometime tomorrow. In the meantime you > can search older builds via L2Ork's website at > http://l2ork.music.vt.edu/main/?page_id=56... > > Enjoy! > > Best wishes, > > -- > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A > Composition, Music Technology > Director, DISIS Interactive Sound& Intermedia Studio > Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra > Assistant Director, CCTAD > Virginia Tech > Department of Music > Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 > (540) 231-6139 > (540) 231-5034 (fax) > disis.music.vt.edu > l2ork.music.vt.edu > ico.bukvic.net > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-dev mailing list > Pd-dev(a)iem.at > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-dev >

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distorted sine on OSX 2.6.8 with firewire interface
by Orm Finnendahl 18 Feb '12

18 Feb '12

Hi List, some of my students reported problems with pd using external firewire interfaces on MacBooks with OSX 2.6.8. A sine wave from the "test audio and midi" panel is very distorted. We encountered this problem on a consumer ESI Interface and on the RME Fireface. We tried different pd versions (0.43 and 0.42 branches, vanilla and extended) using coreaudio and jack with the same result. The internal sound card and standard usb interfaces sound fine with pd. The problem seems strange as the firewire interfaces work without any problems with other audio applications like logic or live. I tried to google this problem but couldn't find anything. Is this a known issue and can someone comment on this or give any advice how to proceed? Yours, Orm ------------------------------------------------------------------ Prof. Orm Finnendahl Komposition Studio für elektronische Musik und Akustik Musikhochschule Freiburg Schwarzwaldstr. 141 79102 Freiburg Tel.: +49-761-31915-167

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nested nqpoly4's
by James Mckernon 18 Feb '12

18 Feb '12

Hi all, I've noticed that nesting nqpoly4 doesn't seem to work. i.e., if a patch contains an nqpoly4 of patchX, and patchX contains an nqpoly4 of patchY, then the patchY's will not instantiate. Instead, a bunch of 'connection failed' messages appear in pd's console. Is this a known bug? Any workarounds? I did discover that opening and saving patchY will cause its nqpoly4 to reload, and then instantiate properly, but I don't feel this is a good solution for regular use. Cheers! J

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NYC Pd Patching Circle Next Tuesday
by sonia yuditskaya 18 Feb '12

18 Feb '12

Hey There PDers, its been a long time since I was on the list as well! Well I cannot blame school but trying to support myself in NY while running our own space certainly got in the way. I am up for air again though! How great! So we are holding a Patching Circle at 319 Scholes in Bushwick on Tuesday February 21st. Attendance has been low and we want to harness some excitement in the new year. So please come show off your magic from the winter, share educational ideas, and lets brainstorm the direction of the patching circle. Perhaps we need a PD outreach program? Themes for sharing? More beer? I suppose one could always use more beer... What would you New York based patchers like to get from a patching circle? S~ <http://yuditskaya.com> Sofy Yuditskaya

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Re: [PD] wiimote report
by Roman Haefeli 18 Feb '12

18 Feb '12

On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 15:36 -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > > This doesn't work: > > > > * accelerometers, motionplus, classic controller > > That is because libcwiid is not supporting pass-through plus + extension (yet, my student is working on updating libcwiid and we'll hopefully have something working soon)... I can easily live with only one extension per wiimote, but it's nice that you are working on this. > > It seems, you cannot use two extensions at the same time. It's either > > motionplus or classic controller, but not both at the same time. > > > > Note: This is with 0.6.00+svn201 (in Ubuntu 11.04), probably this > > matters? AFAICT, [wiimote] from svn does _not_ use a local version of > > cwiid.h. > > What version of libcwiid are you running? I tried both wiimote and disis_wiimote and both are limited by the same limitation. It appears there may have been some kind of a regression in libcwiid if the older version works fine. Sorry, I meant to say, this is with version 0.6.00+svn201 of libcwiid. Which version are you using? Roman

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