Pd-list September 2011

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compiling pd vanilla in OS X 10.7 Lion
by Rich E 30 Sep '11

30 Sep '11

Hi all, I compiled pd vanilla (Miller's git repo) in OS X 10.7 Lion yesterday and ran into (only) a couple hitches. It seems gettext is missing and this causes the linking to fail because it can't find the msgfmt tool. I got it and compiled pd by doing: sudo brew install --universal gettext sudo ln -s /usr/local/Cellar/gettext/0.18.1.1/bin/msgfmt/usr/local/bin/msgfmt ./configure CFLAGS="-arch i386" LDFLAGS="-arch i386" make I don't know much about the gettext tool, but am I wrong in thinking that it should surely be there and blame apple for messing up on a very common unix package? Cheers, Rich

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Re: [PD] Variable number of objects?
by Charles Henry 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Ludwig Maes <ludwig.maes(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Where do I learn more about the more/less objects? Here's the abstract: http://www.uni-weimar.de/medien/wiki/PDCON:Conference/Self-replication:_how… The full conference proceedings are due to be published online any time soon. > On 28 September 2011 20:02, Charles Henry <czhenry(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I'd really hope to hear from Krzystof on this topic. His >> [more]/[less] objects presented at the PdCon were really interesting >> for creating large numbers of voices. >> >> The difference in approach embeds the new instances (without having a >> graphical representation) into the same abstraction and sums their >> outputs on the outlets provided. It behaves a lot like MPI >> programming where each program instance is an exact copy, >> differentiated only by index. Messages piped in can be sent to >> specific embedded instances through [less] if I remember correctly. >> >> Increasing or decreasing the number of voices sounds like a dynamic >> patching application. I don't know much about it, myself. >> >> Chuck >> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Ludwig Maes <ludwig.maes(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Im not sure what the best way is to instantiate variable number of >> > objects, >> > for example consider polysynth.pd: >> > >> > Theres a fixed number of manually placed voices, suppose I want to have >> > the >> > top patch to contain a counter through which one may increase or >> > decrease >> > the number of voices, how would I go about that (without manually >> > placing a >> > load of voices and disabling them...)? >> > >> > Whats the vanilla way to do this? Whats the pd-extended way to do this? >> > ... >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > >> > > >

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Re: [PD] Variable number of objects?
by abel.jerome＠free.fr 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

Hi, I wrote an abstraction, using "pd-messages" to create objects, [index] to store their ID, and" mouse cut" method to delete them with an ID : http://abel.jerome.free.fr/pd/dynamic-patching/patchs/dyn-objects/dynObject… For more informations, I wrote some lines about dynamic patching here : http://abel.jerome.free.fr/pd/dynamic-patching/reviews/ + Jérôme

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error with RME Fireface + Mac Mini
by João Pais 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

Hi list, a friend who doesn't work usually with Pd is trying out a new system: Mac Mini (around 2-3 years old) OS X 10.6.8 pd-extended 0.42.5 RME Fireface UFX Pd works fine, as long as the input count setting in Pd is set to 16 or less, all inputs work. If I set it to 17 or more, all inputs stop working. Outputs continue to function, though. I've told him already to try out a previous + nightly build of Pd. He replied "The old version seems to silently crash after changing audio device to the Fireface. The new versions don't even manage to start up properly." Does anyone has a suggestion to give? Thanks, JoÃ£o

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Gemnotes
by Ed Kelly 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

Gemnotes 0.1 - a real-time music notation system for Pd-Extended. Read the blog and get the tarball here: http://sharktracks.co.uk/site/ This is at very much an alpha stage, but it is a working system. Many changes will occur before the next version. Enjoy, Ed Metastudio 4 for Pure Data - coming soon! Metastudio 3 still available at http://sharktracks.co.uk/puredata

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throw~ / catch~ versus send~ / receive~
by Björn Eriksson 29 Sep '11

29 Sep '11

Hello, first time poster here at [PD] list... been following the different threads with big interest last weeks. I am somewhat a beginner at Pd and have therefore maybe some trivial question.. that is .. what are the differences between throw~ / catch~ and send~ / receive~ ? For me they seem to work equally well, either as "bus" sending or single audio signal send. There is probably some fundamentally concept here I did miss. I see it´s marked on the throw~object in the help, that it´s "summing bus" and the send~ object does not have that marked. Maybe I am doing wrong when I´m summing audiosignals together into a send~ object just by patching them together and should use the throw~object instead, but just curious on why and how?** Thankful for thoughts on this.. All the best, Björn Eriksson

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Variable number of objects?
by Ludwig Maes 28 Sep '11

28 Sep '11

Im not sure what the best way is to instantiate variable number of objects, for example consider polysynth.pd: Theres a fixed number of manually placed voices, suppose I want to have the top patch to contain a counter through which one may increase or decrease the number of voices, how would I go about that (without manually placing a load of voices and disabling them...)? Whats the vanilla way to do this? Whats the pd-extended way to do this? ...

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multipe audio inputs
by Alexandre Torres Porres 28 Sep '11

28 Sep '11

Hi folks, is there a way around to have multiple audio inputs, like you can with MIDI? dont ask me why, but I need to use the computer line input and also an audio card. cheers

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Re: [PD] multipe audio inputs
by Alexandre Torres Porres 28 Sep '11

28 Sep '11

Perfect, didnt know about tis OSX feature, cool! Thanks! 2011/9/28 Jean-Marie Adrien <jma(a)jeanmarie-adrien.net> > hi > possible on OsX with aggregated devices > JM > > Le 28 sept. 11 à 08:07, Alexandre Torres Porres a écrit : > > Hi folks, is there a way around to have multiple audio inputs, like you >> can with MIDI? >> >> dont ask me why, but I need to use the computer line input and also an >> audio card. >> >> cheers >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/** >> listinfo/pd-list <http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list> >> > >

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Re: [PD] pd-extended license WAS: Keyboard shortcuts for "nudge", "done editing"
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 28 Sep '11

28 Sep '11

On Sep 28, 2011, at 1:47 AM, Chris McCormick wrote: > Hi Hans, > > On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 05:32:14PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner > wrote: >> >> On Sep 27, 2011, at 4:53 PM, Mathieu Bouchard wrote: >> >>> Le 2011-09-27 à 16:41:00, Hans-Christoph Steiner a écrit : >>> >>>> No one is talking about relicensing. BSD, MIT, Tcl, LGPL, etc. are >>>> compatible with GPLv3, that means you can include code with those >>>> licenses into a GPLv3 project and that is allowed. Then the whole >>>> project is GPLv3. >>> >>> You mean that the whole project is GPLv3-compatible, or that it is >>> GPLv3 ? >>> >>> If it is the latter, then when do the GPLv3's obligations ever apply >>> to me when I do whatever with Pd-extended ? >> >> >> I think you need to read up on how licenses work, its a bit off topic >> here. But yes, Pd-extended is GPLv3 as a whole. What I mean to say is that I don't have the time right know to explain the details of how licensing works in regards to Pd-extended. But there are many sources of that information. > IANAL but I think Mathieu is correct. Software licenses apply to > specific source code and binaries. I think you need to distinctly > specify that the parts you have contributed (e.g. those patches in > your git branch that you apply to Vanilla BSD as well as whatever > TCL code you have added, as well as any externals you have written > that aren't already licensed) are GPLv3. > > Hm, wait a second. Maybe the pd-extended binary can be licensed > GPLv3 which might be what you mean. That is what I mean. I also mean that if you use Pd-extended as a whole, then it is GPLv3. The Pd-extended source code includes all of the licenses files of the included subprojects, fulfilling the requirements of BSD, MIT, etc. .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder." - Chris McCormick

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