Pd-list March 2011

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Am I a phone?
by ALAN BROOKER 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

An interesting web discussion on mobile games & Pd PureData and Mobile Phone Games Sound: http://socialsounddesign.com/questions/5944/puredata-and-mobile-phone-games…

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Re: [PD] Report: Pd mini-con Dublin (Marco Donnarumma)
by richard duckworth 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Great pix Marco! Thanks Rich Duckworth Lecturer in Music Technology Department of Music House 5 Trinity College Dublin 2 Ireland Tel 353 1 896 1500 It's the most devastating moment in a young mans life, when he quite reasonably says to himself, "I shall never play The Dane!

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re How do I squeeze more performance out of Gem?
by Billy Stiltner 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Have a look at this http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2323&p=13927 Installing the current binary drivers from NVIDIA's site improved GEM performance for me. GEM is extremely fast after installing the latest drivers from NVIDIA.

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pd latency on puredyne 9.10 with Nvidia HDA
by Billy Stiltner 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Hey I've been trying to get a low latency with pd 04.25 in puredyne 9.10 with an NVidia HDA audio card. The audio card is listed as Nvidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev 2) using lspci | grep Audio. With Jack there is bad glitching. With Alsa I can run a patch wihtout glitching at latency in pd set to 60ms only if I minimize the pd window. Any time I move the mouse on the pd window, scroll the pd window or adjust a control in the pd window the audio drops out. This does not happen if the pd window is minimized and the mouse is moved in other windows. The audio works fine with the GEM window open. I did install the latest NVidia graphics drivers from Nvidias site on both linux and Vista. Gem performance was not so good before this but is excellent now. The patch I'm testing with runs great on Windows Vista using ASIO for all and latency in PD set to 50 ms. The test patch uses GEM. On Vista I'm using pd extended where as on linux it is plain pd with extended libraries. Things I have tried(this time around). Reinstalled Alsa, Reinstalled PD, I tried to install pd extended to see if that was the problem but it did not run after the install. I think my version of extended on Vista is 04.26. I also tried compiling from source 04.26 on another system with no luck. So my questions are. Is this possibly a pd problem or an Alsa problem? I have not done any hardware configuration with ALSA and do not know where to begin. My guess is that it is probably a TCL/TK problem and lack of tuning the ALSA drivers. I would alos like to know where to get a synaptics compatible upgrade of pd 0.43 and 0.426 plus synaptics packages for upgrading ALSA and jack. Any info on getting the latency lower on linux would be greatly appreciated. Thank You very much. You can see a some videos of the patch I'm testing on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghib62V9a7k

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Re: [PD] cmd+shift+L (formally known as ?+?+L)
by Joe White 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Oops, didn't think that the list might not like those symbols. Was meant to be cmd+shift+L. >Le 25/03/2011 12:48, Joe White a ?crit : >> I've just been told I can clear the log in Pd-0.43 with the shortcut '?+?+L'. >> >> To whomever implemented this - you are a god. >> >> Made my day so far :) >personally, i hate this shortcut : >it's the only one I use that i can't do with my left hand only. Since the right hand is on my mouse, it is not really convinient to use it. >and since the clear button disappear, i have use the edit menu / clear log. > >well, look like someone god is someone else nightmare. > >Cyrille Well I think I was referring more to the fact that a shortcut was available. As I use it frequently, I was a bit worried that the 'clear' button from Pd 0.42-5 had gone forever. It was a relief to find I could still wipe the log easily. I agree with you though, why 'L'? Cmd + shift + x seems like a good alternative - both in terms of placement on concept (where x is usually assigned to cutting). Maybe god is an overstatement, but it was just reflective of my appreciation for the developers work. Maybe we might see some more shortcuts....please.....:) Cheers, Joe

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⌘+⇧+L
by Joe White 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

I've just been told I can clear the log in Pd-0.43 with the shortcut '⌘+⇧+L'. To whomever implemented this - you are a god. Made my day so far :)

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Pure Data with Panda 3D/FMOD?
by Pagano, Patrick 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Hi Has anyone used pd to communicate with Panda3D? Are there any objects for pd to play nice nice with FMOD? curious pp

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[PD-announce] Report: Pd mini-con Dublin
by Marco Donnarumma 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

(sorry for x-posting) Hi all, some pics and ideas from the Pd mini-con which happened few days ago at Trinity College, Dublin. http://www.thesaddj.com/report-pure-data-mini-con-trinity-college-dublin/ Best, -- Marco Donnarumma Independent New Media and Sonic Arts Professional, Performer, Instructor ACE, Sound Design MSc by Research (ongoing) The University of Edinburgh, UK ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Portfolio: http://marcodonnarumma.com Lab: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net Event: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] maths and music
by George Ker 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

I think it's very hard to succeed in engineering such a sound in Pd from scratch. Anyway, thanks for the share! ----- GeorgeKer http://tinyurl.com/georgeker path_to_sanity(a)joindiaspora.com ----- On 25 March 2011 03:18, Mathieu Bouchard <matju(a)artengine.ca> wrote: > On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, George Ker wrote: > > If yes - I find it excellent. >> > > And what if it isn't ? > > What do you think it is made with, when you listen to it ? > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > | Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC >

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maths and music
by ronald kuivila 25 Mar '11

25 Mar '11

Hi, You might look at some of Tom Johnson's pieces http:// www.editions75.com. Music for 88 is a series of piano pieces that are quite charming. I particlarly like 88's, which simply a series of ways to playing all 88 notes on the piano once. (In the score, the first iteration is presented followed by an ellipsis. with the overall breakdown of notes represented as a simple factoring, i.e. 4 * 22, (5 +3) * 11) RJK On Mar 23, 2011, at 11:31 AM, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list(a)iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-request(a)iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-owner(a)iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. math + music examples (Joe) > 2. Re: [PD-announce] pd 0.43-0 released (Lorenzo Sutton) > 3. Re: cannot get pix_record to work (???????) > 4. Re: pix_film frame control offset 8 MacOsX (chris clepper) > 5. Re: The economics of Open source (Charles Henry) > 6. Re: math + music examples (brandt(a)subnet.at) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 02:47:00 +0100 > From: Joe <potaxpotax(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [PD] math + music examples > To: pd-list <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTinSsiSLqrQ1Fq5xVtozKpR89nuf5EKsqpFzV6gP(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > hello > i am trying to come up with some examples to use in a short workshop > with 11 year old kids using maths to make sound and music (music in > very loose terms that is). i would love to use pd for this. it can be > literally anything, as long as they can easily see a relation between > some basic math concepts (number sequences, patterns, etc.) and the > sounds they hear while interacting with the patches. the goal is not > to have the kids write the patches, but to make them *play* with them. > > does anyone have any ideas for this? useful, easy to understand math > concepts that could be turned into little musical devices? > any feedback will be greatly appreciated! > > cheerio > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 10:14:10 +0100 > From: Lorenzo Sutton <lsutton(a)libero.it> > Subject: Re: [PD] [PD-announce] pd 0.43-0 released > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <4D89B9E2.5030805(a)libero.it> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Miller, all other devs, contributors etc. > > Thanks for the new release! > > Quick feedback from a *very* quick session on Ubuntu 10.04. > > Compiled and installed with ./configure > --prefix=/home/lorenzo/bin/pd-vanilla so this is not a full system- > wide > install test. > - Everything went well audio works with both alsa and jack. alsa-midi > also works. > - Maybe due to specifying the PREFIX I don't get the error dmotd gets > - Where does pd pick the path for gui-rewrite plugins? In my case it > seems to search in /home/lorenzo/src/pd-gui-rewrite/startup/ which > actually relates to another development version I was messing with. > - As for the aesthetics issues. I'm personally happy with the > 'standard' > white canvas (fonts seem to be erratic at every install): would it > make > sense to create a simple configuration file in the form param=value > holding the values as in he example Hans provided maybe with > simpler-to-read entries (making it up): > > canvas.bgcolor=#E1E1E1 > canvas.fgcolor=#000000 > canvas.fontface='DejaVu Sans Mono' > canvas.fontsize=12 > ui.bgcolor=#D3D3D3 > ui.fgcolor=#000000 > ui.fontface='Dejavu Sans' > ui.fontsize=12 > > etc. > > That's it for now. > Ciao, > Lorenzo. > > > Miller Puckette wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> Pd version 0.43-0 is available on http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.htm >> or via git from sourceforge: >> git clone git://pure-data.git.sourceforge.net/gitroot/pure-data/ >> pure-data >> >> cheers >> Miller >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-announce mailing list >> Pd-announce(a)iem.at >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:18:07 +0100 > From: ??????? <potaxpotax(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] cannot get pix_record to work > Cc: PD-List <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTinQ7jL=5M9FBGXeiT7WzKohGC+H1q2Dr-VfNHWi(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > i have the same problem on OS X. > is there any other way to record GEM videos? > thanks > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette > <matteosistisette(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> I've also tried with "auto 1", with and without the bangs, and >> nothing >> changes. >> >> On 03/13/2011 01:43 PM, Olivier Baudu wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've recently tried all the codecs but without success... :-/ >>> (pd-ext 0.42.5 // gem 0.92.3 // Ubuntu 10.04) >>> >>> Sorry... >>> >>> If someone knows a way to make it works, I'll be happy too... >>> >>> Cheers... >>> >>> 01ivier >>> >>> >>> >>> 2011/3/12 Matteo Sisti Sette <matteosistisette(a)gmail.com >>> <mailto:matteosistisette@gmail.com>> >>> >>> ? ?Some more detailed information of what happens: >>> >>> ? ?1 I start Pd Extended >>> ? ?2 I open the patch which uses pix_record >>> ? ?3 send it "codec 5" >>> ? ?4 send it "open filename.mov" >>> ? ?5 send it "record 1" >>> ? ?6 send it a bang at every frame >>> ? ?7 send it "record 0". >>> >>> ? ?(it is always receiving the gemlist) >>> >>> ? ?Result: it only records the first frame (not a black frame, an >>> ? ?actual frame). >>> >>> ? ?If I repeat steps 4-7, i records only one frame again >>> (overwriting >>> ? ?the file, as expected). If I repeat only steps 5-7, it does >>> nothing, >>> ? ?doesn't even touch the file (this may be expected). >>> >>> ? ?If I close the patch (but not Pd), and repeat steps 2-5, it >>> crashes. >>> >>> >>> ? ?This is Pd Extended 0.42.5, gem 0.92.3 compiled sep 22 2010 >>> (comes >>> ? ?with pd extended), Ubuntu 10.04 >>> >>> >>> ? ?Apart from the crash which I can avoid, is there something I am >>> ? ?missing to have it record more than one frame??? Does anybody >>> know >>> ? ?of a codec that gives less issues? (there are too many to try >>> them >>> all). >>> >>> ? ?thanks >>> ? ?m. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ? ?On 03/12/2011 08:18 PM, Matteo Sisti Sette wrote: >>> >>> ? ? ? ?Hi, >>> >>> ? ? ? ?Time ago I succesfully used pix_record in Windows by trying >>> ? ? ? ?different >>> ? ? ? ?codecs until I found one that wouldn't make it crash. >>> >>> ? ? ? ?Now I'm trying to use it in linux and I managed to create the >>> output >>> ? ? ? ?file and it seems it records one black frame, but nothing >>> more. >>> ? ? ? ?The file >>> ? ? ? ?seems to have the correct dimensions in pixels but it never >>> grows >>> to >>> ? ? ? ?more than a few Kb. >>> >>> ? ? ? ?I use "codec 5" which is ffmpeg mjpeg. >>> >>> ? ? ? ?I have: >>> >>> ? ? ? ?[gemhead 99] >>> ? ? ? ?| >>> ? ? ? ?[t b a] >>> ? ? ? ?| / >>> ? ? ? ?[pix_snap 500 500] >>> ? ? ? ?| >>> ? ? ? ?[t b a] >>> ? ? ? ?| / >>> ? ? ? ?[pix_record] >>> >>> ? ? ? ?Well I'm simplifying it, because I have a spigot so that the >>> ? ? ? ?situation >>> ? ? ? ?is equivalent to the picture above only after I've sent the >>> ? ? ? ?"record 1" >>> ? ? ? ?message. >>> >>> ? ? ? ?I send to pix_record, in this order: >>> ? ? ? ?"file output.mov" >>> ? ? ? ?"record 1" >>> ? ? ? ?... now for every frame I send it a bang (and the gemlist of >>> course) >>> ? ? ? ?"record 0" >>> ? ? ? ?...now i stop banging it >>> >>> ? ? ? ?I've verified that pix_snap is snapping as expected (I've >>> tried >>> ? ? ? ?putting >>> ? ? ? ?a pix texture after it and using the texture on a square). >>> >>> ? ? ? ?Any idea? >>> >>> ? ? ? ?It prints this message to the console when it receives the >>> ? ? ? ?"file" message: >>> ? ? ? ?encoding as Quicktime (QT7 compatible) >>> >>> ? ? ? ?but it doesn't print any message when it gets the "record >>> 1" and >>> ? ? ? ?"record >>> ? ? ? ?0" messages. >>> >>> ? ? ? ?thanks >>> ? ? ? ?m. >>> >>> >>> >>> ? ?_______________________________________________ >>> ? ?Pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list >>> ? ?UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> ? ?http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:48:37 -0400 > From: chris clepper <cgclepper(a)gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] pix_film frame control offset 8 MacOsX > To: Matthias Neuenhofer <matthias(a)neuenhofer.de> > Cc: pd list <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: > <AANLkTik7rqPKinqWWrph9LX0baz1p4vPJ748cuv_OmZ5(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" > > That's not completely surprising since Apple is destroying the old, > useful > Quicktime and not replacing it with anything comparable. But, hey, > your > computer now acts more like your cellphone! > > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Matthias Neuenhofer <matthias(a)neuenhofer.de >> wrote: > >> hm - beware for update 10.6.5 >> >> released nov 2010 - fits to my experience - i had no problems last >> summer >> with synchronization >> of video + sound. >> >> i tested also on MacPro and different MacBook Pro with 10.6.6 same >> issue. >> even update to 10.6.7 didn?t solve the problem. >> >> m >> Am 22.03.2011 um 13:37 schrieb chris clepper: >> >> I tested this on 10.6.4 and the latest Pd-Extended and did not see >> this >> problem. >> >> On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Matthias Neuenhofer < >> matthias(a)neuenhofer.de> wrote: >> >>> Dear list, >>> >>> i recognized that pix_film have an offset of 8 when trigger with >>> frame >>> number on 2. inlet. >>> When video is loaded the 1. frame is visible and stay sending 1 - 8. >>> Number 9 render the >>> 2. frame, 10 the 3. frame ? but i can?t get back the 1. frame this >>> is only >>> shown up with loading. >>> It?s also not possible to get the last 7 frames. >>> The length of the video in the console is printed correct when >>> opened. >>> >>> Can somebody confirm this. I?m working on MAc OsX 10.6.6 and tried >>> pd-extended 0.43, >>> 0.41rc4 and latest 0.42. all the same behavior. Can?t remember on >>> which >>> version of MacOs >>> it worked correct last. >>> >>> For easy testing here a 100 frame mov counting 0-99 >>> http://matthias.neuenhofer.de/_testMOV/_testF75mov.zip >>> >>> lg >>> Matthias >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> >> >

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