Pd-list August 2010

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Re: [PD] Video codec advice
by Nick Burge 27 Aug '10

27 Aug '10

On 08/26/2010 07:49 PM, pd-list-request(a)iem.at wrote: > Re: [PD] Video codec advice > Hello Hans, I was attempting to run your video player patch on my ubuntu 10.04 laptop using pd-extended 0.42.5 ...the objects all load except for "mimtimefile".....which will not create. Which library am I missing, or is this patch only going to work on a mac? Nick.

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[vcf~] analyser (float32 rounding errors)
by Claude Heiland-Allen 27 Aug '10

27 Aug '10

Hello! I like to use [vcf~] as a ringing/decaying oscillator, so I made a patch (attached) to analyse [vcf~], in the hope of feeding the analysis data to some surface-fitting software to find an equation for decay-time and peak amplitude from filter frequency and Q settings. The patch is designed to be run in batch mode like: $ pd -r 44100 -batch -open vcf_analyser.pd with the output saved to "vcf_analysis.txt", so if you want to check out how it works then load it with 'pd -noloadbang'. On my machine it takes a few minutes to analyse a few hours of audio. But the output was really rather strange, with peaks and troughs where I didn't expect to see any (red in the attached graph of decay time in ms vs frequency in midi note numbers). I suspected accumulating floating point rounding error might be to blame, so I did further testing, and it turns out that rounding error is indeed the cause: with a [vcf~] using 'double' internally instead of 'float', the graph is *much* more regular (green in the attached graph). Attached is the source code 'vcf~.c' modified from 'pd-0.42-5/src/d_osc.c' source code, I compiled it on Linux with: $ gcc -std=c99 -Wall -pedantic -O3 -fPIC -shared -o vcf~.pd_linux vcf~.c -lm If you are using a version of Pd that supports aliasing internal objects (like recent Pd 'vanilla', but not Pd 'extended'), you can just use it by adding '-lib vcf~' to your Pd start command (or prefs). Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org

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troubles with GEM and pd 0.42.5-extended-rc5, in Ubuntu 10.04 amd64
by tomegale＠libero.it 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Hi, I am taking a workshop and pd can't load Gem! I installed pd 0.42.5-extended-rc5 amd64 on Ubuntu Lucid 10.04 64bit. When start pd I read this in console: /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Gem/Gem.pd_linux: libmpeg3.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Gem: can't load library Gem is in its place, in /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Gem. I tried to check for Gem in path and startup. when I try to open an exaple of GEM, I read it in console: gemreceive __gem_render $1 ... couldn't create gemreceive __gem_render_osd $1 ... couldn't create gemlist ... couldn't create GEMglColor4f 1 1 1 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_AMBIENT 0.2 0.2 0.2 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_DIFFUSE 0.8 0.8 0.8 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_EMISSION 0 0 0 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_SPECULAR 0 0 0 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_SHININESS 0 ... couldn't create GEMglPushMatrix ... couldn't create GEMglPopMatrix ... couldn't create GEMglFlush ... couldn't create gemlist ... couldn't create cube ... couldn't create translateXYZ ... couldn't create gemglutwindow ... couldn't create expr, expr~, fexpr~ version 0.4 under GNU General Public License GLdefine GL_LINEAR ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_EXP ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_EXP2 ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_STENCIL_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20 ... couldn't create GEMglViewport 0 0 500 500 ... couldn't create GEMglDisable GL_FOG ... couldn't create GEMglEnable GL_FOG ... couldn't create GEMglFogf ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_FOG_DENSITY ... couldn't create GEMglFogf ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_FOG_MODE ... couldn't create GEMglFogf ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_FOG_START ... couldn't create GEMglFogf ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_FOG_END ... couldn't create GEMglFogfv ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_FOG_COLOR ... couldn't create GEMglDisable GL_COLOR_MATERIAL ... couldn't create GEMglDisable GL_AUTO_NORMAL ... couldn't create GEMglDisable GL_NORMALIZE ... couldn't create GEMglShadeModel GL_FLAT ... couldn't create GEMglLightModeli ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_LIGHT_MODEL_TWO_SIDE ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_FALSE ... couldn't create GEMglLightModeli ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_LIGHT_MODEL_TWO_SIDE ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_TRUE ... couldn't create GEMglEnable GL_LIGHTING ... couldn't create GEMglEnable GL_COLOR_MATERIAL ... couldn't create GEMglEnable GL_AUTO_NORMAL ... couldn't create GEMglEnable GL_NORMALIZE ... couldn't create GEMglShadeModel GL_SMOOTH ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_AMBIENT 0.1 0.1 0.1 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_SPECULAR 1 1 1 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMaterialfv GL_FRONT_AND_BACK GL_SHININESS 100 ... couldn't create GEMglDisable GL_LIGHTING ... couldn't create GEMglClearColor ... couldn't create GEMglClear 17664 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglDisable GL_LIGHTING ... couldn't create GEMglViewport 0 0 500 500 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20 ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLineWidth 2 ... couldn't create GEMglColor3f 1 1 1 ... couldn't create GEMglBegin GL_LINES ... couldn't create GEMglVertex2f 0 -6 ... couldn't create GEMglVertex2f 0 6 ... couldn't create GEMglEnd ... couldn't create GEMglLineWidth 1 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20 ... couldn't create GEMglViewport 0 0 250 500 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20 ... couldn't create GEMglViewport 0 0 250 500 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create gemlist ... couldn't create gemlist ... couldn't create GEMglGetFloatv GL_STEREO ... couldn't create GEMglColorMask 1 1 1 1 ... couldn't create GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglColorMask 1 1 1 1 ... couldn't create GEMglColorMask 1 1 1 1 ... couldn't create GEMglClear ... couldn't create GEMglClear ... couldn't create GEMglClear ... couldn't create GEMglClear ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_STENCIL_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_ACCUM_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create gemlist ... couldn't create gemlist ... couldn't create GEMglColorMask 1 1 1 1 ... couldn't create GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglFrustum -1 1 -1 1 1 20 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_PROJECTION ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglLoadIdentity ... couldn't create GEMgluLookAt 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 0 ... couldn't create GEMglDrawBuffer GL_BACK_LEFT ... couldn't create GEMglClear ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglDrawBuffer GL_BACK_RIGHT ... couldn't create GEMglClear ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_COLOR_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create GEMglMatrixMode GL_MODELVIEW ... couldn't create GEMglClear ... couldn't create GLdefine GL_DEPTH_BUFFER_BIT ... couldn't create gemlist ... couldn't create gemlist ... couldn't create GEMglReportError ... couldn't create gemlist ... couldn't create is an architectural issue?! how can I try to fix it? I am an Italian boy, I apologize for my bad english. :-( Thanks to all. thom

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pidip
by Willy WOLFF 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

I would like to compile pidip http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/pidip/ We must use automake 1.4, see in header of aclocal.m4 But when i do autoreconf, i have "aclocal: configure.ac: 0: macro `AM_PATH_GTK' not found in library" message. pidip use gtk 1 exclusively?

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Pd-extended 0.42.5-rc5 on UbuntuStudio 9.10 looking for externals everywhere?
by João Martins 26 Aug '10

26 Aug '10

Hi there. I'm taking my first steps with Pd on Linux and just noticed that unlike my Mac, where Pd just looks for the externals in their own directory, I'm getting a huge list, on startup, of obvious failures looking for libraries and externals everywhere. Things like this, for every loaded external: tried ./libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cyclone/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Gem/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/zexy/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/creb/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/iemlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /home/abade/pd-externals/xsample/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/list-abs/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/mapping/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/jmmmp/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/maxlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/memento/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/mjlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/oscx/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pddp/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdogg/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/motex/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pmpd/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/rradical/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/sigpack/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pixeltango/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/toxy/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/unauthorized/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pan/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/smlib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hcs/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/ext13/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/ggee/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/flib/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/ekext/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/flatspace/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /home/user/pd-externals/pool/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /home/user/pd-externals/fid_abs_0.3.5_rc1/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /home/user/pd-externals/fid_abs_0.3.5_rc1/fid_zones/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /home/user/pd-externals/TUIO_PureData/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /home/user/pd-externals/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/libdir.l_i386 and failed tried ./libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cyclone/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/Gem/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/zexy/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/creb/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/cxc/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/iemlib/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /home/abade/pd-externals/xsample/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/list-abs/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/mapping/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/jmmmp/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/maxlib/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/memento/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/mjlib/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/markex/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/oscx/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pddp/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdogg/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/motex/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pmpd/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/rradical/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/sigpack/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pixeltango/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/toxy/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/unauthorized/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pan/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/smlib/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hcs/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/ext13/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/ggee/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/flib/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/ekext/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/flatspace/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /home/user/pd-externals/pool/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /home/user/pd-externals/fid_abs_0.3.5_rc1/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /home/user/pd-externals/fid_abs_0.3.5_rc1/fid_zones/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /home/user/pd-externals/TUIO_PureData/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /home/user/pd-externals/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/local/lib/pd-externals/libdir.pd_linux and failed tried /usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/libdir.pd_linux and succeeded libdir loader $Revision: 1.8 $ compiled on Aug 23 2010 at 08:27:30 compiled against Pd version 0.42.5.extended Should I worry? Is there anything I can do to speed up things and guarantee that Pd isn't looking for everything everywhere? Thank you. João Martins -- João Pedro Martins música . web design http://joaomartins.entropiadesign.org mail: joaomartins(a)mac.com skype: joaopsmartins ichat: joaomartins msn: joaopsmartins

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PD Engine on FPGA
by Christoph Kuhr 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Hi, im planning to build an outboard dsp engine. the idea is to connect a fpga device via ethernet to an extra ethernetcard in a linux rt pc system with an alsa driver using rtnet. and the dsp core shall be realized as a pd audio engine/objects. has anyone a clou how to get started with the portation of that engine, or if its even possible? bye Ck

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project help and suggestions
by Martin Eckart 25 Aug '10

25 Aug '10

Hi all, I'm working on a project that I'd like some technical input on in order to make it more efficient than I have it. For reference I'm working with PD-Extended on Ubuntu 10.4. I have a digital camera taking jpeg images at regular (2 or 3 second) intervals which download automatically to a directory on my laptop (connected via usb using gphoto2). I want to load those images into pd using gem for display onscreen as well as some other analysis. Now the way I have it right now, each time an image is downloaded a hook script converts it to 1 frame of mpeg2 video and gets concatenated to the end of a cumulative mpeg video file. In pd, I load the video with pix_film and display it. This works reasonably well, however, I need to load the same video again in order to get the most recent images and that reload makes video playback stutter (not bad but enough to notice). Does anyone have any suggestions on other ways I could go about this? Some thoughts I have so far: 1) maybe pix_film has a 'reload' or similar option to just load the newest frames? 2) maybe there's a way to play it as if it's a streaming video and just load the newest frames as they come? 3) maybe pix_image is more what I'm looking for? Forget the encoding to video and just load each image individually to a buffer? I think this can be problematic since there will be hundreds of images and loading them all to RAM will get too big for my paltry 2gb. I'm grateful for any of your suggestions. Cheers, -martin

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Bang
by Philip Cunningham 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Visiting my family in Scotland, my sister made me an early birthday present. It's a very tasty, and patchable, cake.

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Re: [PD] Problems with "pool" object
by João Martins 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Hi Cristiano, I'm using precisely the "pool" object compiled by Thomas Grill and pd-ext 0.42.5-rc5 available at autobuild. I'm getting pd freezing just opening the help patch of pool, clicking one of the toggles and trying to close it. If you can get that done, you're better off than me. The really important thing for me would be to get JY Gratius fid_abs to work (they relly on "pool" and freeze my Pd also. I'm sending you the abstraction. Can you test any of the examples and see if it works? You can check the examples on docs/FR/ Here, even the simpler examples freeze Pd. In fact, invoking a fid_class or fid_get object inside a patch will freeze Pd. If it works on your machine, pelase let me know, so I can start looking at different things, such as specific processor issues and stuff... Can you confirm what are the releases you're using of pd-extended and Gem, and what processor you're working with? I'm trying all of this in an Intel Atom machine: Acer Aspire Revo. Thank you very much. João Martins No dia 24 de Agosto de 2010 14:40, cristiano figueiró <figocris(a)gmail.com>escreveu: > did you try these: > > http://grrrr.org/ext/beta/linux/pd/ > > <http://grrrr.org/ext/beta/linux/pd/>here pool seems to work ok, ubuntu > 10.04 and pd-ext 0.42.5, send a patch to try > > 2010/8/24 Bryan Jurish <jurish(a)uni-potsdam.de> > >> moin João, >> >> Not that I think this will be of much help, but when I had similar >> flext-related crashes ("free(): invalid pointer") in the past, it turned >> out to be due to missing initialization code in the constructor. I >> really don't believe [pool] suffers from this problem (we would have >> heard about it before now), but cf. my signature :-/ >> >> Anyhoo, I found it helped (but didn't solve all problems) to compile the >> flext externals in "static debug" mode -- of course, this causes some >> memory bloat and slows things down a bit, but it might get you running >> on your target architecture... >> >> marmosets, >> Bryan >> >> On 2010-08-24 11:30:30, João Martins <joaomartins(a)mac.com> appears to >> have written: >> > Nothing is as simple as it looks, as I'm learning by the minute. >> > With the latest release of Pd, turning off Gem does not allow "pool" to >> > work properly, and I get exactly the same error message. >> > This leads me back to "pool" in itself. >> > Compiling all of "flext" really seems a daunting task, but I think I'll >> > give it a go, if no one comes up with a better suggestion. ;) >> > >> > Thank you all. >> > >> > João Martins >> >> -- >> Bryan Jurish "There is *always* one more bug." >> jurish(a)ling.uni-potsdam.de -Lubarsky's Law of Cybernetic Entomology >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > -- João Pedro Martins música . web design http://joaomartins.entropiadesign.org mail: joaomartins(a)mac.com skype: joaopsmartins ichat: joaomartins msn: joaopsmartins

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newline in comment
by tim vets 24 Aug '10

24 Aug '10

Hi list, Is there a way to put newlines in comments that stay there after closing and reopening a patch? I am unable to create a comment like: "first line second line third line" without it becoming: "first line second line third line" after reopening the patch. I pasted some text from elsewhere and don't want to have to break it up into 50 separate comments. thanks, Tim

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