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Re: [PD] Masses of ctlin in abstraction causing CPU Overload
by Christoph Kuhr 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

the [ctlin] are in the same patch as the OSC sends [udpsend]... but heres the zip Am 04.08.2010 14:55, schrieb cyrille henry: > ok, > i don't have all of the OSC stuff, so i can't fully test your patch. > could you provide the minimal version that trigger the problem and > send it to the list (not only to me) > (the list would prefer a zip file) > > c > > > Le 04/08/2010 14:44, Christoph Kuhr a écrit : >> well, >> >> i have a main patch (MOD_8) including all the numberboxes and only >> recieving via udp. >> works fine. >> it also calls an abstraction (sendOSCMod_8), which manages all the >> sending: 8 channelstrip (sendOSCChannelstrip) abstractions are called >> with 33 FILTERED(MIDIctlin) [ctlin]. >> calling the sending abstraction alone without the main patch causes the >> same problem, and there are no numberboxes in it. >> >> attached the patches >> >> bye >> chris >> >> Am 04.08.2010 14:26, schrieb cyrille henry: >>> hello, >>> what you describe should use a negligible % of CPU. >>> i think there is a problem somewhere. something like a loop with send >>> and receive by example. >>> >>> send your patch to the list so we can have a look. >>> >>> c >>> >>> Le 04/08/2010 14:06, Christoph Kuhr a écrit : >>>> Hi there, >>>> >>>> im working on a digital mixing desk, >>>> any channel is build of 33 MIDI CCs one CPU has to manage 8 channels >>>> for using ctlin with dynamic arguments, i put it in an abstraction, >>>> did >>>> two multiplications and two compersisons. >>>> when i change a CC value the pd-gui is getting REALLY busy, computing >>>> about 20 minutes for that one value. >>>> >>>> do you have any ideas, on how to do that more CPU saving? >>>> >>>> >>>> greets >>>> chris >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>

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Masses of ctlin in abstraction causing CPU Overload
by Christoph Kuhr 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

Hi there, im working on a digital mixing desk, any channel is build of 33 MIDI CCs one CPU has to manage 8 channels for using ctlin with dynamic arguments, i put it in an abstraction, did two multiplications and two compersisons. when i change a CC value the pd-gui is getting REALLY busy, computing about 20 minutes for that one value. do you have any ideas, on how to do that more CPU saving? greets chris

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MP3 soundfiler
by Leandro da Mota Damasceno 04 Aug '10

04 Aug '10

Hi everyone, I am kind of new to Pure Data, so forgive if the question is stupid... I am looking for a soundfiler equivalent that can open mp3 and assign dynamically the size of its array. Is there someway to do that? The only way I've found was using readanysf~ and connecting it to statically defined arrays...

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PD NO JACK OUTPUT
by Bernardo Barros 03 Aug '10

03 Aug '10

I don't know if this is a problem with PD or with JACK but... I have jack 1.9.5 (package from planet-ccrma fedora 13/64bit) and PD compiled from source (miller puckette website). I compiled PD with ./configure --enable-jack=yes --enable-alsa=yes When I start JACK and then PD with pd -jack I get: jack_client_new: deprecated Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started It works OK with ALSA if I start with just "pd". But nothing with JACK. Any idea what goes wrong here..?

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howto get "pool"
by Stefan Jensen 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hi,... first thing: i'm very very new to pd, so be nice to a first time user, please. ;-) I've got pd-extended compiling and working fine on Fedora13_x86_64. (I use "rsync -av --delete rsync://128.238.56.50/distros/pd-extended" to get the tree.) Now i'm missing "pool". Where can i get it and how can i include it in the above tree, so that it is build, when i rebuild pd? Thank you very much. best regards Stefan --

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GEM 0.92 font support ubuntu jaunty
by Marco Donnarumma 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

Hi, I can't use [text2d] or 3d because "GEM has been compiled without FONT support" (I noticed the topic has been already discussed). I searched the archive but couldn't find anything more recent than these threads below (2006/2007). Should I compile GEM and the other stuff mentioned in those threads or the issue could be related to something different? Ubuntu Jaunt,y pd-ex 42.5 rc5 compiled manually from auto-build farm, GEM 0.92. Thanks, http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg02272.html http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg02593.html http://www.mail-archive.com/pd-list@iem.at/msg01148.html -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Re: [PD] Stabel release?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 02 Aug '10

02 Aug '10

That one you don't need, i think... .Hc ----- Original message ----- > I just can't find mysqlclient15-devel for Fedora 13 64-bit. Maybe > that's the problem? How to build without it? > > 2010/8/1 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org>: > > > > Pd-extended does use the pidip autoconf stuff, but it gives an error if it > > can't find a lib. That's by design. Pd-extended aims to rpovide the same > > pidip on all platforms, so if it cant find a lib, that's an error for > > pd-extended. > > > > If you want to build a custom pidip build, then use its build system directly. > > > > .Hc > > > > ----- Original message ----- > > > > > > ola, > > > > > > pidip still has a autoconf system which can tell you what is missing.. > > > unfornately not used with pd-extended, if i understood it right > > > > > > saludos, > > > sevy > > > > > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > Sounds like you are missing a dependency probably a video lib, so pidip > > > > didn't build. Check the debian and fedora pages for a listing. Or scroll > > > > up and see which header pidip is complaining about. > > > > > > > > .Hc > > > > > > > > ----- Original message ----- > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > ok, here is something: > > > > > > > > > > From svn I downloaded the complete pd-extended sources as described. > > > > > > > > > > After starting the compilation process as described, it fails with the > > > > > following lines. > > > > > > > > > > By the way: Would be nice to update the build-instructions (name of > > > > > the root dir isnt correct). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > install -d > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid > > > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/hid.pd_linux \ > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid > > > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/*.pd > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid > > > > > install -d > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid/examples > > > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/examples/*.pd \ > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid/examples > > > > > install -d > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp > > > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/*.pd_linux > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp > > > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/abstractions/*.pd > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp > > > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/objects/*.* > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp > > > > > install -d > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/manual > > > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/reference.txt \ > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/manual > > > > > install -d > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples > > > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/introduction/*.* \ > > > > > > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples > > > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/examples/*.* \ > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples > > > > > install -d > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip > > > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip > > > > > install: cannot stat `/tmp/pd-extended/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux': No > > > > > such file or directory make[2]: *** [pidip_install] Error 1 make[2]: > > > > > Leaving directory `/tmp/pd-extended/externals' make[1]: *** > > > > > [externals_install] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory > > > > > `/tmp/pd-extended/packages' make: *** [install] Error 2 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > mcc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hans-Christoph Steiner<hans(a)at.or.at> [10-07-30 20:04]: > > > > > > > > > > > Any day now. I think there are no outstanding problems with the latest > > > > > > release candidate version, so I just want to wait a bit before making > > > > > > it the final release. > > > > > > > > > > > > So please test it and report problems, bugs, etc! Otherwise it'll be > > > > > > too late... > > > > > > > > > > > > .hc > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 19:37 +0200, meino.cramer(a)gmx.de wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (warning! I am not a native English speaker! :) ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all: This is NO form of critism, urging, hurry-up message or > > > > > > > anything else than a wish for information... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A time ago I saw mail here announcing different release codes of the > > > > > > > upcoming new version of pd-extra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When I the "final release" ("stable" or how it is called) planned? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your help in advance! > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > mcc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > >

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Gigs with Pd
by Pierre Massat 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

Hello everyone! There was a discussion not too long ago about suitability of Pd in a live context (off the "smoother audio" thread i think). I just wanted to say that i use Pd everytime i play a gig with my band as a super multi effects. I have never experienced any crash in Pd, and the sound is just excellent, and everybody keeps asking me what the hell are these pedals and this software and how the eff do i make all these sounds, and well, i just think this is the future. I m just hoping that sometime soon we'll have a piece of hardware that's small and powerful enough to run Pd in realtime and I'll have the perfect gear (perfect for me). Just wanted to share this. Cheers! Pierre

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Re: [PD] Stabel release?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

Pd-extended does use the pidip autoconf stuff, but it gives an error if it can't find a lib. That's by design. Pd-extended aims to rpovide the same pidip on all platforms, so if it cant find a lib, that's an error for pd-extended. If you want to build a custom pidip build, then use its build system directly. .Hc ----- Original message ----- > > ola, > > pidip still has a autoconf system which can tell you what is missing.. > unfornately not used with pd-extended, if i understood it right > > saludos, > sevy > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > Sounds like you are missing a dependency probably a video lib, so pidip didn't > > build. Check the debian and fedora pages for a listing. Or scroll up and see > > which header pidip is complaining about. > > > > .Hc > > > > ----- Original message ----- > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > ok, here is something: > > > > > > From svn I downloaded the complete pd-extended sources as described. > > > > > > After starting the compilation process as described, it fails with the > > > following lines. > > > > > > By the way: Would be nice to update the build-instructions (name of > > > the root dir isnt correct). > > > > > > > > > > > > install -d > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/hid.pd_linux \ > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/*.pd > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid > > > install -d > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid/examples > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/hcs/hid/examples/*.pd \ > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/hid/examples > > > install -d > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/*.pd_linux > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/abstractions/*.pd > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/objects/*.* > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp > > > install -d > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/manual > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/reference.txt \ > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/manual > > > install -d > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/introduction/*.* \ > > > > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pdp/doc/examples/*.* \ > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pdp/examples > > > install -d > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip > > > install -p /tmp/pd-extended/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux > > > /tmp/pd-extended/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd-extended/extra/pidip > > > install: cannot stat `/tmp/pd-extended/externals/pidip/*.pd_linux': No such > > > file or directory make[2]: *** [pidip_install] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving > > > directory `/tmp/pd-extended/externals' make[1]: *** [externals_install] > > > Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/pd-extended/packages' make: *** > > > [install] Error 2 > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > mcc > > > > > > > > > > > > Hans-Christoph Steiner<hans(a)at.or.at> [10-07-30 20:04]: > > > > > > > Any day now. I think there are no outstanding problems with the latest > > > > release candidate version, so I just want to wait a bit before making it > > > > the final release. > > > > > > > > So please test it and report problems, bugs, etc! Otherwise it'll be > > > > too late... > > > > > > > > .hc > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 19:37 +0200, meino.cramer(a)gmx.de wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > (warning! I am not a native English speaker! :) ) > > > > > > > > > > First of all: This is NO form of critism, urging, hurry-up message or > > > > > anything else than a wish for information... > > > > > > > > > > A time ago I saw mail here announcing different release codes of the > > > > > upcoming new version of pd-extra. > > > > > > > > > > When I the "final release" ("stable" or how it is called) planned? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your help in advance! > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > mcc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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[min~] [max~] [closest2zero~??]
by Funs Seelen 01 Aug '10

01 Aug '10

Hello, Has anyone ever found a trick or built an object to use the value closest to zero like [min~] does for lowest and [max~] for highest? Something like (for two signalvalues (f and g)): if (f > 0, g > 0) use [min~] if (f < 0, g < 0) use [max~] else set signal to 0, or value = (f + g) / 2, or some better idea one could think of.. I was trying to shape waves out of combined functions (in this case tangent en cotangent (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Trigonometric_functions.svg)). Infinity doesn't sound so nice ;-). mfg, Funs

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