Pd-list May 2010

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Re: [PD] I C::ntr::l Nature - augmented av impro concert @ Mapping Festival, Geneva
by Marco Donnarumma 05 May '10

05 May '10

Sorry, this was meant for Pd-announce.... Need more coffee... -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Problem with path and Pd Vanilla
by Jack 05 May '10

05 May '10

I have installed Pd Vanilla 0.42-5. In /usr/lib/pd, i have /bin, /doc and /extra. In /doc/5.reference, i have /Gem, /pmpd, /zexy. In /Gem, i put /abstractions, /examples and /help. In /pmpd, i put /exemples and /help. In /zexy, i put /examples and /reference I have added path : /usr/lib/pd/extra/Gem /usr/lib/pd/extra/zexy /usr/lib/pd/extra/pmpd /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/Gem/abstractions All works fine with the externals, but when i try to create [gemmouse], i get in the console : gemmouse, couldn't create. gemmouse.pd is in the /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference/Gem/abstractions. Where is the problem ? Another question : Is it a good idea to put /examples and /help in the same directory (in my case : /5.reference/Gem or /5.reference/pmpd or /5.reference/zexy) ? Or is it better to separate them (like pd-extended) ? When i right-click on an object and ask 'help', Pd search automatically in the /usr/lib/pd/doc/5.reference or not ? Thanx. ++ Jack

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Velocity detection
by Andrew Faraday 05 May '10

05 May '10

Hey all I've had an idea, using a joystick to symbolically strike a bell, (I.E. when one axis hits a certain figure the bell sound is triggered, possibly with the timbre varied by the other axis). However, does anyone know of a way I can measure the speed of this movement using pd? Basically, the change in velocity in the half second or so before reaching the 'strike'. I'm not sure if there's anything in PD to do this, but any ideas would be welcome. Cheers, Andrew _________________________________________________________________ http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/

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GEM ARM compilation under Debian
by Oli44 05 May '10

05 May '10

Hello, I'd like to have an ARMEL port of Gem running on Debian Lenny to install on one of these small but beautiful boxes such as the Beagle board http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard or the Guru Plug Display or the Nokia N900. They're supposed to have OpenGL 2.0 compliant chipsets from TI. I've been searching in the archives but couldnt found anything meaningful. Does anyone has already tried compiling for ARMEL be it native or cross compilation? ++ OH -- olivier(a)heinry.fr http://www.heinry.fr/olivier

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Re: [PD] Loading model object in OS X 10.6
by patko 05 May '10

05 May '10

why do you absolutely want to keep venus.obj in gem data folder, and not just put it in the patch folder, it way simplier. It's true that loading gem data files outside their patch context isn't easy at all, it would be easier if data files where in extra/gem/data for example. Also you can use [openpanel] for opening the file, and then getting the real path. Simply try attached, your file is in a folder with the model file, I've compressed it with tar -cf command. PS: try to open a terminal console one day, ;) Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 ----- "Camilo Cadavid Corredor" <cccadavid(a)hotmail.com> a écrit : > I attached the model patch, showing clearly what my objectives are > (simply to control the translate value using te adc~). Please just > observe the way I am loading the file. > Im out of my mind trying to figure it out > > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 08:29:09 +0200 > > From: colet.patrice(a)free.fr > > To: cccadavid(a)hotmail.com > > Subject: Re: [PD] Loading model object in OS X 10.6 > > > > by the way why don't you just put your obj file within the pd patch > file? > > > > then you wouldn't need to append any directory before the name > > > > Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 > > > > ----- "patko" <colet.patrice(a)free.fr> a écrit : > > > > > your path should look like something like this: > > > > > > > /home/camilocadavid/Library/Pd/Contents/Resources/doc/examples/Gem/data/venus.obj > > > > > > > > > > > > if you don't put the slash, the openfile command will look for a > > > folder called 'camilocadavid' from all pd registered folders > > > which are pd/extra, pd/bin, all the folders into extra, all pathes > > > declared in startup with -path option, > > > and the folder from where you've manually started the patch, is > that > > > right also on a mac? > > > > > > > > > Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 > > > > > > ----- "Camilo Cadavid Corredor" <cccadavid(a)hotmail.com> a écrit : > > > > > > > slash root on my mac system? > > > > Sorry, i didnt understand that > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 04:00:12 +0200 > > > > > From: colet.patrice(a)free.fr > > > > > To: cccadavid(a)hotmail.com > > > > > CC: pd-list(a)iem.at > > > > > Subject: Re: [PD] Loading model object in OS X 10.6 > > > > > > > > > > you have no slash root on your mac system? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Patrice Colet - 06 32 66 03 57 > > > > > > > > > > ----- "Camilo Cadavid Corredor" <cccadavid(a)hotmail.com> a > écrit : > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, I am experimenting with the model object. > > > > > > I see the example and the help, and they dont show the > entire > > > > strip of > > > > > > the loading location. > > > > > > When I try to use it in a new patch, it cant even find the > > > > venus.obj > > > > > > file. I must be entering the adress incorrectly. I did it > like > > > > this: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > camilocadavid/Library/Pd/Contents/Resources/doc/examples/Gem/data/venus.obj > > > > > > All the characters are identical. I even tried cutting it > > > starting > > > > > > from Library, even Pd. Still didnt work > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help. > > > > > > > > > > > > Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > > > > > > Discover the new Windows Vista Learn more! > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > Get news, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. > Check it out!

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Relative path behaviour strange in GOP abstractions
by saint 05 May '10

05 May '10

I'm on pd vanilla windows version 0.42-5. I've a patch that relies heavily on file IO abstractions (sitting happily in the 'extra' folder), which are invoked by the main patch which until recently has been located in a different folder. These abstractions start looking for certain files and folders via 'makefilename' into the 'textfile' object like... |read ../../$1/$2.txt( I tried to make an abstraction (also located in 'extra') that was GOP. It used 3 instances of the file IO abstraction, where one instance was visible on parent and the 2 others hidden. What I found was that the hidden abstractions began their relative path in the 'extra' folder as they should... |read ../../$1/$2.txt( ... ...worked for the hidden only. ...but the VISIBLE abstractions began their relative path search in the PARENT'S patch folder. Such that... |read ../$1/$2.txt( ... ...worked for the visible only. Can anybody replicate this bug/suggest a workaround? (The paths must be relative, as I need to port this around) Thanks in advance as always, John.

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pix_record: recording at a fixed framerate
by Matteo Sisti Sette 04 May '10

04 May '10

Hi, I'm trying to record a rendered image with [pix_record]; it works, but I have a problem with the framerate. I have tried both 1) with the "auto 1" mode and 2) with "auto 0" and a [t b a] connected to its inlet, that is, banging it at every frame The results are the same. The problem is that it seems that together with each frame, the information of the duration of the frame (or a current framerate which is the same) is recorded. So, when I play the file in quicktime OR when I import it in the timeline of an editing program (such as Vegas Pro), the frames are played at the same rate at which they were generated. That can be fine for some applications, but I am trying to "render" a video that cannot be played at full rate in real time. That is, I am using a framerate of 25fps in GEM, but the frames will never be rendered and recorded at 25fps because they are too heavy to process. So I am recording every single frame with [pix_record], but I would like them to be written without the information about the _real_ framerate at which they were rendered. So that when I play the video back in any player it will play smoothly. Is that possible? Btw I tried using other codecs (it uses Apple Jpeg by default), but whatever codec I choose except the default one will crash Pd. If there is no way to change the way [pix_record] writes fps information, can you suggest me some software that can interprete the stream of frames as a fixed-fps sequence of frames and rewrite the video file with a fixed framerate? (I have an old version of VirtualDub but it cannot read .mov files) thanks m. -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistisette(a)gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com

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avoiding toggle-like behaviour of one-digit-width numberbox
by Matteo Sisti Sette 04 May '10

04 May '10

Hi, If I create a numberbox and set its width to 1, then it behaves somewhat like a toggle when clicked: if you click on it and its current value is non-zero it changes to zero, and if it is 0 it changes to 1. So you cannot click on it and write a number, which is nonsense, since you could write any one-digit number (0-9). Is there a way to override this behaviour? -- Matteo Sisti Sette matteosistisette(a)gmail.com http://www.matteosistisette.com

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compiling PureData for Iphone, not exactly easy...?
by Timur Kuyanov 04 May '10

04 May '10

Hello! I'm trying to follow the instructions from this page: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdForiPhone i was happy when i read that it supposed to be easy thing to do,but... my compiling process finishes with this: Making all in man make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all'. make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'. and i don't see anything in SRC folder... anyway, i'm trying next step: scp src/pd mobile@YOUR_IPHONE_IP:/tmp/ with my ipod touch ip and getting : Connection refused lost connection I'm not good enough in this kind of things to see where is the problem, so may be there will be some advice? Not sure if mailing lists support attachments, but just in case, whole terminal verbalization is there... Thank you!! oh, this is my first post here, hope it's not rude or something. nice to meet you too.

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Detours and Destinations
by David Kirkpatrick 04 May '10

04 May '10

Hi people, Anyone in Sydney this Wednesday, Thursday or Friday should come and check out Detours and Destinations at the Sydney Opera House for some Pure Data goodness. Detours and Destinations is an integrated multi-media arts project framing the stories and experience of young people from the Blacktown and Campbelltown areas. Video and film, remix technologies, beat mixing and DJ culture, podcasts, blogging, performance, stencil art and installation. The tech behind the installation consists of a GrandVJ media server, dimmers full of profiles and an Ableton session, all driven by OSC from participants interaction with five netbooks running custom Pd patches, and a giant pressure sensitive dance floor. If you're overseas or interstate you can check out the live feed. Send SMS's to +61 427 265 985 or tweets to @detours_tweets and watch a massive projection and bank of LCD TV's react to key words in your messages. Check out http://www.sydneyoperahouse.com/detours for times and details. Starts tomorrow! For this project I have been funded by the Australia Council For the Arts, Digital Culture Fund. Detours & Destinations is a joint project between HEAPS DECENT, SHOPFRONT, the SYDNEY OPERA HOUSE and the Department of Juvenile Justice. David Kirkpatrick Sound and Multimedia Artist www.davidk.com.au _________________________________________________________________ Need a new place to live? Find it on Domain.com.au http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/157631292/direct/01/

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