Pd-list March 2010

pd-list@lists.iem.at

152 participants
270 discussions

nogui, no signal
by PSPunch 20 Mar '10

20 Mar '10

I have an audio patch in progress. In short, it takes an input, splits the signal in several paths, then all paths meet again at [dac~]... In brief, it is a guitar effector. While this patch works fine when launching Pd from shell with GUI, such as $ pd filename.pd Not all signal paths seem to work when launching with the nogui option. $ pd -nogui filename.pd I get some sound out of it, so it appears only part of all signal paths are blocked. The patch is of reasonable size and difficult to trace, therefore prior to dissecting it I would like to ask... Are there any specific objects or logics known to behave differently under no-gui ? -- David Shimamoto

3 8

Playing soundfile via array
by meino.cramer＠gmx.de 19 Mar '10

19 Mar '10

Hi, (using Pd version 0.41.4-extended on Gentoo Linux (pd-overlay)) I am trying to read a short soundfile (wav/aiff) from disc into an array and then play the data of the array into a [dac~]. In the meanwhile to sounds like "something" but itt has nothing to do with the original file, which plays well via mplayer, vlc etc. #> file oneshot.wav gives me oneshot.wav: RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 22050 Hz #> file oneshot.aiff gives me oneshot.aiff: IFF data, AIFF audio Only reading the file via the last "raw" command fills the array with anything else then nulls. Both top commands seem to do nothing at all. I copied the stuff from different help entries. Attached you will find the according patch. What did I wrong with this? Thank you very much in advance for any help! mcc -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.

4 8

Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare?
by saint 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

I do think that a big snag in the learning curve for some people is the initial provision of only very basic building blocks. You pretty much have to download Pd and then get Miller's book (what I did) or FLOSS Manual/Andy Farnell's etc. (God I really want Andy's book! Broke atm!) and then devote a good few hours into getting off the ground. What should really be implemented (I've seen some screenshots for the next release yes??) is the right-click style access to a menu organised into say, primitive objects, medium and high-level abstractions. Initial users, say the casual VST synth Mike or Michelle, just want to... 1. Crack open a subractive synth. Play it. (High level). 2. Then dismantle it, see how it works and maybe make their own modular noise spewers from pre-formed building blocks. (Medium level). 3. Build their own building blocks to suit their own desire/dream/whim etc. (Low level) Which is what Reaktor has. (Does the newer bubbly Max have that too?). So I can see the original poster's point. Don't get me wrong, I love Pd (I'm here aren't I??!). But I also can't wait for it to evolve into a more user friendly and intuitive program (not at the expense of it's simplicity though!). There'll be more of us here then. Or do we want to be like the Fixed-gear Cyclists? All exclusive and haircutty??! "Well, I was using Pure Data waaaay before it could emit a speaker beep..." John.

2 1

[forWiimote] abstraction - wiimote - motion plus - IR - nunchuck
by Jack 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Hello, Here an abstraction [forWiimote] and its help patch [forWiimote-help]. Should only work on Linux because of [wiimote] external. Need : zexy and mrpeach. You have to download cwiid from git repository : git://github.com/abstrakraft/cwiid.git and download new wiimote source from : svn checkout https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data/trunk/externals/har… Apply the patch for cwiid : cd /yourpath/libcwiid and then : patch -p0 < '/yourpath/wiimote/patches/cwiid201_motionplus_sensitivity.patch' Then : ./configure make make install Go back in /wiimote : cd /yourpath/wiimote Then : make If there are mistakes, please correct me ! If there are any troubles with [forWiimote], thx to tell me ! I haven't any Wiimote here so i can't test my last version + i have never use IR. thx to IOhannes for his help. ++ Jack

2 1

Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare?
by Jonathan Wilkes 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

--- On Wed, 3/17/10, Marco Donnarumma <devel(a)thesaddj.com> wrote: From: Marco Donnarumma <devel(a)thesaddj.com> Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare? To: quietdidit(a)gmail.com Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 11:16 AM >As many other said before, I personally think there is nothing to >compare. All of them are quite separate environments, and i mean not only >computing capabilities, flexibility and GUI, but above all each community >supporting the projects. >"this" is not better than "that", it's only about what fit best your >needs. >So first point out which are exactly your needs. Learning Pd can be >difficult and exhausting in the beg, but once you get familiar with it, I >can assure you it's only pleasure. And there is a world of things you >can't do with any other software. But you have to find out what. Hi Marco, What do you think makes learning Pd difficult and exhausting in the beginning? Is it just a general learning curve, or are there speficic issues you think could be improved for the future? -Jonathan

2 1

Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare?
by tep 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Sorry for previous mistake. I feel concerned because i have been using all of these softwares. It all started with Reaktor, which is clearly music-oriented (though some people are able to make video games on it !). I had a lot of fun and headaches. It was a good introduction to modular-environment. Great for synth / fx / buffer things. It can be used as a VST but has no video support. And i think making math in Reaktor is not very handy. Now I can't use it anymore. Pd seems more 'austere' at first looking but also it shows the basics you need to know in order to go on. I think it brings to a better understanding of how things work, at least for me. And it's cross-platform, free and quite stable. And people answer you quickly. And it's the sexiest :) I personally REALLY got into it while having a specific thing to accomplish. At the beginning, learning it was difficult and blurry. It seems you can do A LOT indeed. In my own opinion.

1 0

Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare?
by tep 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Hi I have been 2010/3/18 <pd-list-request(a)iem.at> > Send Pd-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list(a)iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-request(a)iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-owner(a)iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Pd-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these > compare? (Jonathan Wilkes) > 2. Re: video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds > (errordeveloper(a)gmail.com) > 3. Re: mp3cast~ on ubuntu 9.10 crash pd (IOhannes m zmoelnig) > 4. Re: video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds (Lorenzo) > 5. Re: video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds (Andrew Faraday) > 6. Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these compare? > (saint) > 7. Re: video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds (Pedro Oliveira) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 19:26:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these > compare? > To: quietdidit(a)gmail.com, Marco Donnarumma <devel(a)thesaddj.com> > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <376196.72041.qm(a)web65616.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > --- On Wed, 3/17/10, Marco Donnarumma <devel(a)thesaddj.com> wrote: > > From: Marco Donnarumma <devel(a)thesaddj.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] Pd, Max/Msp, Reaktor, Plogue Bidule... How do these > compare? > To: quietdidit(a)gmail.com > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 11:16 AM > > >As many other said before, I personally think there is nothing to > >compare. All of them are quite separate environments, and i mean not only > >computing capabilities, flexibility and GUI, but above all each community > >supporting the projects. > > >"this" is not better than "that", it's only about what fit best your > >needs. > >So first point out which are exactly your needs. Learning Pd can be > >difficult and exhausting in the beg, but once you get familiar with it, I > >can assure you it's only pleasure. And there is a world of things you > >can't do with any other software. But you have to find out what. > > Hi Marco, > What do you think makes learning Pd difficult and exhausting in the > beginning? Is it just a general learning curve, or are there speficic > issues you think could be improved for the future? > > -Jonathan > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:38:37 +0000 > From: errordeveloper(a)gmail.com > Subject: Re: [PD] video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <20100318043837.GB10132(a)00110101.home> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hans, that's excellent! > > i was quite curious how kids could react to pd .. > hm ..i'd love to do some pd tutorials one day, and yeah i was thinking > about kids as well! > > the only thing is that i couldn't check the video - > i still don't have sound working in flash with my soundcard setup ;( > > may be you have the video somewhere else? > abby/cclive doesn't support blip.tv and i tried videosnag.com ..but it > didn't do anything .. > > On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 01:56:00PM -0400, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > > Here's a video of a Pd workshop I taught with 11 year old kids in New > York. > > It was amazing how they picked it up and had so little fear to > experiment: > > > > > http://eyebeam.org/press/media/videos/an-introduction-to-electronic-soundsc… > > > > .hc > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more > > direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it > can > > change entire economies. - Amy Smith > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:22:05 +0100 > From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] mp3cast~ on ubuntu 9.10 crash pd > To: Nicolas Montgermont <nicolas_montgermont(a)yahoo.fr> > Cc: pd-list <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: <4BA1E2AD.8060601(a)iem.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15" > > On 2010-03-17 20:53, Nicolas Montgermont wrote: > > I tried to compile it from the svn. > > I manage to build the pd_linux (removing the -Werror flag) but the > > object is still crashing pd when connecting to the server... > > here is the log of the compilation, does anyone got an idea? > > thanks in advance: > > could you try to produce a run it in a debugger (gdb), and broduce a > backtrace, like: > > $ gdb pd -stderr mp3cast~-test.pd > (gdb) run > ... > (gdb) backtrace > ... > > > > fgmasdr > IOhannes > >

1 0

Flash sound (Was Re: video of Pd Workshop for 11 year olds)
by András Murányi 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 5:38 AM, <errordeveloper(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Hans, that's excellent! > > i was quite curious how kids could react to pd .. > hm ..i'd love to do some pd tutorials one day, and yeah i was thinking > about kids as well! > > the only thing is that i couldn't check the video - > i still don't have sound working in flash with my soundcard setup ;( > > may be you have the video somewhere else? > abby/cclive doesn't support blip.tv and i tried videosnag.com ..but it > didn't do anything .. > > Errordev, i bet it's Ubuntu! ;o) Start playing the video, pause it, wait until it downloads, then find the Flashxyz file in /tmp and rename it to something.flv, and vlc or something else shall be able to play it. Hans, this is super cool!!! Andras

1 0

pduino digital inputs memsic ATmega328
by Marco Donnarumma 18 Mar '10

18 Mar '10

Hi all, I'm kind of newbie to arduino and pduino, standardFrmata2.1. I made some simple successful experiments with a GSR and analog inputs, but now i'm trying to read values from a Memsic accelerometers and can't work it out. Memsic outputs x-value and y-value on digital inputs 3 and 2. Using the code provided within the Memsic arduino tutorial I can see values through arduino serial monitor, but with pduino nothing is happening. Running arduino-test and selecting the proper port (4) i get some errors: get_baud_ratebits: 57600.000000 set_baudrate baudbits: 4097 [comport] opened serial line device 4 (/dev/ttyUSB0) *[comport] write returned -1, errno is 11 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line* but [version(, [firmware( messages works properly. Then i make sure the pinMode is set to 0, but still nothing. I'm sure I'm missing something here, so any help would be much appreciated and forgive me... I'm learning. thanks in advance, -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

1 0

Re: [PD] pdstring? (was: http client native in pd)
by Martin Peach 17 Mar '10

17 Mar '10

They might work as: [moocow/any2bytes], [moocow/bytes2any], [list prepend set]. Martin Chipp Spam wrote: > Thanks for the examples with httpget ! > > Had a problem running the example: > > any2bytes > ... couldn't create > bytes2any > ... couldn't create > prepend set > ... couldn't create > > (Running latest version pd-extended on OS X). > Thanks > ~Chipp > > On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 5:13 PM, <martin.peach(a)sympatico.ca > <mailto:martin.peach@sympatico.ca>> wrote: > > > And here's a version that gets the latest solar wind speed from the > ACE satellite... > > Martin > > hc wrote: > > > > Ah, right, here's an updated version, that will also disconnect if > > there's no response within 5000ms. > > > > .hc > > > > >

3 2

← Newer
1
...
12
13
14
15
16
17
18
...
27
Older →

Jump to page:

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

2000

1999

1998

Pd-list March 2010