Pd-list December 2010

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packaging "Pd standalone"
by João Pais 27 Dec '10

27 Dec '10

Hi, in a Pd meeting here in Berlin I saw the package Pd patch (or whatever it's called) being run on a Mac. We've seen that the result was an integral copy of pd-ext (183Mb) with the patch included. In case someone is going to continue working on this feature, may I give some options? - besides the vanilla library, to pack only the used objects? Pd has for 8000 files in it, and most of them aren't really necessary for all patches - is this feature going to be available for all plattforms? - will it be possible to create not only a folder with pd+patch, but a kind of enclosed package, where the user sees only one program and has only to click on it? (this might be tricker to do in windows or maybe unix, but on mac seems to be easy with the folder as package setup) Best, JoÃ£o -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 Studio +49 30 69509190 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp

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question about building externals on Linux
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 27 Dec '10

27 Dec '10

Hi all, I've taken a quick stab at trying to port John Gibson's spectdelay~ external from Max to Pd and got stuck at the following error: load_object: Symbol "spectdelay_tilde_setup" not found I have spectdelay_tilde_setup in the code, it is format-wise (TTBOMYK) the same as other signal-based externals. At any rate, I am stuck and unsure how to proceed. Please advise. build script: gcc -DPD -g -I/usr/local/include/pdl2ork -I../Spectacle -o spectdelay~.o -c spectdelay~.cpp gcc -o spectdelay~.pd_linux spectdelay~.o -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -fPIC -DUNIX -Wl,--export-dynamic-shared ../Spectacle/Spectacle.o ../Spectacle/SpectacleBase.o ../genlib/Odelay.o ../genlib/Obucket.o ../genlib/FFTReal.o ../genlib/Offt.o source file is attached. Bunch of .o files are independent/shared .o files that have been built as follows: gcc -c -o Ooscil.o Ooscil.cpp Any ideas as to why is this happening? TIA

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a bit OT : beginner's question about mixing
by Achim Bloch 26 Dec '10

26 Dec '10

Hi listees, I'm a complete beginner when it comes to mastering. But I think it's a common practise to magnify the sound of an instrument in its particular range of harmonics, and if two instruments are close, like a bass drum and a bass guitar (panoramics left apart), each one will see its harmonics magnified in a refined particular frequency range that will be different from its close neighbour, so that they can sound distincly even if played together. I was wondering if another way to achieve this goal could be to magnify the harmonics in a more « mathematical » manner, let's say, magnifying the bass drum harmonics frequencies if they are even, and the bass guitar ones if they are odd? Do you think this could be effective, or is it way too much theoretical and unadapted? Thanks in advance, Cyrill

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Best wishes for the Holidays
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 25 Dec '10

25 Dec '10

Dear Friends, On behalf of Linuxaudio international consortium (http://linuxaudio.org), DISIS (http://disismusic.vt.edu), and L2Ork (http://l2ork.music.vt.edu), please allow me to use this opportunity to wish you very best for the Holidays. May you have many more seasons of merry music making using an ever-growing array of formidable FOSS tools and solutions! Best wishes, Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio Director, L2Ork Linux Laptop Orchestra Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico.bukvic.net

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ds colors to iem colors
by Jonathan Wilkes 24 Dec '10

24 Dec '10

Does anyone have an object chain to convert from the three-digit ds colors to iemgui colors? I tried creating one here, but they are visibly off. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks, Jonathan

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Piksel video report: Sonification of IT censorship technologies
by Marco Donnarumma 24 Dec '10

24 Dec '10

> That's something that they're supposed to have learned early in their BFA > and/or MFA degrees, if they went that route. Otherwise, they have to learn > it anyway. > I reckon one learns it better in real life, not all schools are enough good to teach you that. :) > This is a classic example of the ongoing (mis)communication(s) between > artists and scientists. > And far too many artists lack the training to engage with the > real media of their work and instead hire technicians to realize it for > them. @ Derek: Agree with you, this is perhaps the focal point here. However, I would suggest to observe the same miscommunication not only from a pragmatical point of view (the artist might not know how to properly code something) but also from a conceptual perspective. Maybe the artist does not always need to perfectly know how to code something, but the conceptual relevance of a work can be unveiled and successfully diffused even if somehow a work lacks of technical consistence, or does not fulfil requirements of a scientific paper. Fortunately today's strands of "art" are manifold. Programmers are artists, artists are programmers, cinema directors become artists, sound artists become programmers, and so on... Art itself is mutating, increasingly faster since the New Media global wave. But this is probably OT already :P -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher Ongoing MSc by Research, University of Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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what is the status of lv2 support in Pd?
by ico＠vt.edu 24 Dec '10

24 Dec '10

Hi all, I saw the gsoc page on the pd webpage suggesting efforts towards providing lv2 support for Pd but was unable to locate anything beyond that. Has there been any progress made in this direction? Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. Composition, Music Technology Director, DISIS Interactive Sound and Intermedia Studio Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy) Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, VA 24061-0240 (540) 231-6139 (540) 231-5034 (fax) ico.bukvic.net

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[PD-announce] Joyeux Noël !
by Mathieu Bouchard 24 Dec '10

24 Dec '10

http://gridflow.ca/gallery/joyeux_no%C3%ABl.png _______________________________________________________________________ | Mathieu Bouchard ---- tél: +1.514.383.3801 ---- Villeray, Montréal, QC _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Lorenz withouth chaos external
by ronni montoya 24 Dec '10

24 Dec '10

Hi , i would like to know if anyone have tried to create the lorenz atractor in pure pd? I think this can be done with expr~ right? Do anybody have tried making this attractor or maybe other atractor just with pd? I would like to use attractors without using the chaos library or any other external thanks Ronny

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GEM: camera and perspec
by Max 24 Dec '10

24 Dec '10

Hi List, I was wondering why Gem has a camera AND the perspec/view messages to gemwin. Isn't it redundant? Afaik even with both methods it's not possible to render two perspectives in a split screen or texture a second view on a geo. Since the multiple gemwin branch seems dead i am looking for a different solution, the only option which comes to my mind is to open two pd/Gem instances and have two times the same patch open with a different camera/perspec/view. Is that right? Or am I missing something? m.

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Pd-list December 2010