Pd-list May 2009

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default speaker setup for vbap
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 24 May '09

24 May '09

I just had an idea: would there be any harm in having [vbap] start up with a default set of loudspeakers? It would make life easier for the newb. Perhaps it would default to a 5.1 setup. .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie

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pure data on ubuntu 8.10
by Jose Luis Santorcuato 23 May '09

23 May '09

Dear friends i bought a new computer... pc computer, (i always use pure data on a mac with osx tiger,leopard) and i want install pure data extended, but the installer said me error libxxx dependecy, ¿how i can install?. Thanks a lot José -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/santorcuato

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a little Sampler module with GUI being dragged in edit mode - howto
by glerm soares 23 May '09

23 May '09

Hiya, I just finished a little sampler module with recording mic, volume envelope, pitch modulation and a GUI with pd-vanilla stuff + [breakpoints] (envgen modification from tof library)...It uses a moving [cnv] to implement an "alpha" graphic "timeline" of envelope (just work for 2 seconds default envelope). it uses also [iem_copy] from iem_tab to deal with a real time copies of samplers (i don't know if it is the best solution to that - suggestions welcome)... I know this kind of thing was made several times. This object was made mainly for a collaborative documentation project with Brazilian newbies around here, so I decided to make this from scratch... ....but I am posting here because I have a question for the veterans and want to start a thread about this discussion, to think about until we meet in PDcon09: my frustration: I can't drag this thing in "edit mode" whithout a long gap between atualization of the new position and audio huge dropouts. I know this question is not new in the history of this list, but suppose I really want to do it: make a GUI sampler object which can have several instances being droped in the canvas like any other object box... Does it happens in your machine too? Please report. It is all about graphic tables ot there's something more? Please don't tell me to not use them, this is not a solution! :) My system: root@hdpodre:/home/glerm/artesanatodevolts# pd -version Pd version 0.41-4extended-20090427 compiled 14:09:17 Apr 27 2009 root@hdpodre:/home/glerm/artesanatodevolts# uname -a Linux hdpodre 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:57:59 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux root@hdpodre:/home/glerm/artesanatodevolts# cat /proc/cpuinfo processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel cpu family : 6 model : 9 model name : Intel(R) Celeron(R) M processor 1400MHz stepping : 5 cpu MHz : 1396.462 cache size : 512 KB fdiv_bug : no hlt_bug : no f00f_bug : no coma_bug : no fpu : yes fpu_exception : yes cpuid level : 2 wp : yes flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr mce cx8 sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 tm pbe up bts bogomips : 2792.92 clflush size : 64 power management: abraços glerm

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i can with ubuntu
by Jose Luis Santorcuato 23 May '09

23 May '09

Thanks Hans...your page is a bible... Thanks a lot for the effort... José -- http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com/ www.myspace.com/santorcuato

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call for vbap testing in Pd-extended or SVN
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 23 May '09

23 May '09

I finally updated vbap to Villa Pulkki's most recent version. It was 0.99 now its 1.0.3. The Pd code ended up being too different and I didn't have the original Max version that was ported to Pd to compare, so I tried to track all the changes in the Pd version, and incorporate them where they made sense. But basically, I ended up porting the Max/ MSP 1.0.3 sources from scratch. There are some minor differences between the Max/MSP version and this Pd port: - a fifth inlet/outlet was added for 'gain' but since this provided no functionality that could not be handled in Pd using a [*~], I did not include that in the Pd port. - the Max/MSP version only has arguments for the 2nd and 3rd inlets (azimuth and elevation), I added an argument for the fourth inlet (spread). Its in the nightly Pd-extended builds, or in SVN: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data/trunk/externals/vbap/ .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- All information should be free. - the hacker ethic

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gcanvas?
by Oded Ben-Tal 23 May '09

23 May '09

gcanvas is behaving differently in these two situations: linux (fc10) pd-0.39 object is gray and can resize correctly win pd-extended 0.40.3 object is white and resize changes the input area but not the object. Is it a feature or a bug? In both cases the values seems to be done correctly. Oded ___________________________________________________ Oded Ben-Tal http://ccrma.stanford.edu/~oded

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PdVST and Pluggo's demise (was 'max for live;)
by Solen Music 22 May '09

22 May '09

> Matthew Logan wrote: >> Has anybody tried putting a later version of Pd (from later than 2004) >> in there? I think it's time this question was asked again, in light of recent Max/Msp developments... http://createdigitalmusic.com/2009/05/15/cycling-74-ditches-plug-in-develop… there may be a lot of stranded pluggo aficionados annoyed that pluggo is going the way of the dodo, looking for pastures new (but familiar). I've used and really liked pdvst. but got ultimately annoyed at the silly non-aligning graph-on-parent behaviour of the old version of pd that comes with it on the http://crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/ site Mr. Sarlo? is it possible to do a more recent binary build of this excellent tool? I think you may have a lot of former pluggo developers (who definitely are an imaginative bunch) converting to pd if this is possible. Mostly because of the demise of Pluggo and perhaps because of the expensive prices of the Max 5 upgrade and however much £'s Max for Live will cost. 2009/1/19 Martin Schied <crinimal(a)gmx.net>: > Hi, > > Matthew Logan wrote: >> Has anybody tried putting a later version of Pd (from later than 2004) >> in there? > I don't remember which versions I used, but when trying the newest > extended release version approx. one year ago it crashed on creation of > the vst plugin in my host sequencer. I later used jack for Windows and > midi-ox instead which worked quite well. > > Martin >> I just wanted to check to see if anyone has updated it without >> breaking it. >> >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 8:35 AM, Alex <x37v.alex(a)gmail.com >> <mailto:x37v.alex@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> As Live is proprietary software, and they have already embedded Max, I >> don't see how PD could get into it... though PD can be used in >> parallel to Live, sending midi [and I assume audio?.. using Jack or >> soundflower or something?] >> >> PD can also be used as a vst [though I've never done it, being a Linux >> only user, and preferring to work directly in PD]: >> http://crca.ucsd.edu/~jsarlo/pdvst/ >> <http://crca.ucsd.edu/%7Ejsarlo/pdvst/> >> >> Besides the inline editing [inside Live], I haven't thought of a real >> example that cannot be done with PD along-side of Live.. though, it is >> not as slick.. >> >> -Alex >> >> On 1/16/09, harris_pilton(a)gmx.de <mailto:harris_pilton@gmx.de> >> <harris_pilton(a)gmx.de <mailto:harris_pilton@gmx.de>> wrote: >> > hi guys, >> > >> > i was just wondering why you guys dont do this max for live >> thing that >> > was announced? i guess there will be no way that pd will be >> > implemented in live like that? but maybe someone in the list >> has ideas >> > to work around that? >> > >> > for the ones who dont know what i'm talking about; it's pretty much >> > this: ableton.com/extend <http://ableton.com/extend> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list >> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@iem.at> mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > -- John http://www.myspace.com/solenband

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Re: [PD] call for test: MIDI on Mac OS X
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 22 May '09

22 May '09

So is the MIDI on Mac OS X working with Pd version 0.41.4-extended- rc2? I am guessing this is a yes, but I just want to make sure. .hc On May 21, 2009, at 12:20 PM, Jose Luis Santorcuato wrote: > Yes... i use with my synths... or my nano pad kontrol korg, include > arduino as controllorer or translator... midiin... ctlin...note > in... midiout....etc. > > Check this: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDj1HJgTDgY > > Cheers from Chile > > José Luis > > > > 2009/5/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > > I basically never use MIDI, but I want to make sure that the MIDI > stuff is working in Pd-extended 0.41.4. Could someone with MIDI > equipment test the latest release candidate to make sure its working? > > http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html > > .hc > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "[T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own > government." - Martin Luther King, Jr. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > -- > http://arselectronicachile.blogspot.com/ > www.myspace.com/santorcuato ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- All information should be free. - the hacker ethic

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getting wacom data on Ubuntu WAS: who wants to port [wacom] for windows?
by Olm-e 22 May '09

22 May '09

> Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 13:10:44 -0400 > From: patrick <puredata(a)11h11.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] getting wacom data on Ubuntu WAS: who wants to port > [wacom] for windows? > To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)at.or.at> > Cc: Pd List <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Message-ID: <4A143994.2070303(a)11h11.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Yes, [hid] use /dev/input/eventX, but really /dev/input/wacom is simply > a link to /dev/input/eventX. > i have also tried to cat /dev/input/eventX, same problem, no output. > > if anyone have a tablet and using HAL, let me know if it's working for you. > pat > > > just to let you know, I got my little wacom volito to work with [hid] with /dev/inputX on ubuntu 8.04, as long as I change the owner of that to current user... ( sudo chown user /dev/inputX ) - I get XY and pressure info ... same as with all hid input actualy since ubuntu 7.10 (had a hard time before figuring that permission thing) but don't know how to change that on the fly ... could be cool to find as that /input/eventX change each time (reboot/change in usb/...) Ol.

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looking for a circular buffer for dsp blocks or similar.
by Martin Schied 22 May '09

22 May '09

Hi! is there already something like a 'circular buffer' external or abstraction for dsp blocks? I want to detect onsets / attacks of 512 sample long signals using [fiddle~ 1024] and write them in arrays of 1024 samples. for now my patch looks like this: the signal is going to [fiddle~ 1024] and to a [delay~] with 576 samples (512 + 64) which is going to tabwrite~. after fiddle~ detects an attack it starts a recording of tabwrite. (see also attached patch) Altogether this process needs 33ms (1024 + 512 + 64 samples) after an attack has happened to record a signal of 22ms. (1024 samples) My idea was, to use a kind of delayline which is big enough to contain the whole signal and then copy the entire content of this delayline "in one moment", so in effect no time has been wasted for delaying the signal. It could save 11ms in this example. I'm also open for other suggestions. I already thought of "pre-recording" blocks with multiple delay~ + tabsend~ and copying them together after a bang from fiddle~, but felt not well by thinking this... also some concerns for this: -using big blocks (1024) there's an additional uncertainity to match analysis windows of fiddle~ so their offset to fiddle~ must be known. -using small blocks (64) this becomes unhandy for long delays when not using dynamic patching (at least with my knowledge of pd) btw. can somebody explain where those additional 64 frames (1 Block) delay are coming from? Is fiddle's (and also bonk's) output delayed by one audio block? attached is an example showing this. (and also the above mentioned) cheers, Martin

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