Pd-list May 2009

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who wants to port [wacom] for windows?
by João Pais 21 May '09

21 May '09

Hello again, Pd developers and programmers, [added comment] I am resending this message, as the latest version wasn't a success. I guess no one needs a unix version of [wacom], so I rephrase the question: who wants to port [wacom] for windows only? H-C, I noticed that you're putting in a group to work on windows-related stuff. Do you mind spreading this message around to any windows-related developers? (developers! developers! developers! developers! developers! developers! developers! developers! developers! developers! developers! developers! developers! developers! ...) And after this interlude comes the original message again: [original message] We - me and Johannes Kreidler for now - wanted to ask if anyone would be interested in programming a version of Thomas Grill's [wacom] for windows. This external is used to take data from wacom tablets - so in case anyone else is interested in this please say something. The features/work would include: - be compatible with general wacom architecture - and specially with the Intuos3 (which is the tablet we own) - take all parameters from the tablet connected - not forgetting tilt+inclination, touch strips and keys (these aren't covered by [wintablet]) - put the compiled binaries in a svn folder packaged with Pd Extended (see below) - be willing to do some maintenance now and then, specially until things get stable (after that, I guess the work would be kind of finished) According to T Grill, the developer(s) that work on this must register with Wacom as developer(s), so that they have access to the wacon API. Also, the source code cannot be given away, so they must sign a non-disclosure contract (from what Thomas said, not as complicated as it sounds). I couldn't find exact information about this, but at http://www.wacomeng.com/devsupport/index.html might be something more clear. It would be perfect if someone would be interested in porting the code just because. In case that doesn't happen, we - me, Johannes Kreidler and whoever wants to join in - would be interested in giving a small payment for the work. We're poor people (just like you), so we can't really pay what a professional programmer should get for the work. In that case, just get in discussion with us, and we'll see what can be done. Again, if this interests someone else - either as developper or contributor - please forward this mail away. Best, JoÃ£o Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp

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[OT] RjDj recording - acoustic environment
by Thomas Grill 21 May '09

21 May '09

Hi all, i'm preparing a lecture about artistic strategies of recontextualizing the acoustic environment. Therein, i would like to include one or more recordings of RjDj scenes that use predominantly online sounds from the actual environment and next to no preset sounds (like drums etc.). Recordings from real world (non-studio) situations would be preferred. I'm not a RjDj user and i'm having trouble finding proper scenes and recording on the RjDj site. thanks for your input, gr~~~

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[list-value]
by Alex 21 May '09

21 May '09

I'm sure someone has already done this but I didn't find it in list-abstractions or anywhere else so I figured I'd post my own solution. In messing with list I've found that sometimes in a patch I'll have to keep several instances of the same list. I figure this called for a [value] for lists, so I created [list-value] which works just like [value] but stores and outputs lists instead of floats. I've attached the abstraction and a help file in case anyone else would like to use it. -Alex

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more Pd/shell communication
by Florian Hollerweger 20 May '09

20 May '09

Hi list, I am a happy user of Chris McCormick's recent suggestion for Pd/shell communication using [netsend], [netreceive] and a shell script piping commands from/to pdreceive/pdsend in a while loop (based on a solution by Claude): http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2009-02/067864.html However, this ceases to work when the Pd patch is restarted, since the ports remain occupied. While one can close the link from Pd to the script before restarting the patch using the [disconnect< message to [netsend], there seems to be no clean way of closing the connection from the script to Pd. I am guessing that one would need to modify Chris' script in a way that it is possible to send a 'disconnect' event from Pd to the script, which causes it to close the pipe to Pd, right? Not being the world's greatest shell scripter, I would appreciate any hints on how this could be accomplished. best, flo.H

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building vbap on linux fails
by Peter Plessas 20 May '09

20 May '09

Dear List, trying to compile vbap from cvs sources: % make pd_linux cc -DPD -DUNIX -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -I/usr/local/src/pd/src -o vbap.o -c vbap.c cc1: warnings being treated as errors vbap.c: In function ‘new_spread_dir’: vbap.c:335: error: declaration of ‘gamma’ shadows a global declaration /usr/include/bits/mathcalls.h:265: error: shadowed declaration is here make: *** [vbap.pd_linux] Error 1 when i remove -Wshadow from the makefile i still get: cc -DPD -DUNIX -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Werror -Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -I/usr/local/src/pd/src -o define_loudspeakers.o -c define_loudspeakers.c define_loudspeakers.c:18:1: error: "NULL" redefined In file included from /usr/local/src/pd/src/m_pd.h:51, from define_loudspeakers.c:11: /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.3.3/include/stddef.h:403:1: error: this is the location of the previous definition define_loudspeakers.c:84:1: error: "/*" within comment define_loudspeakers.c:84:36: error: "/*" within comment define_loudspeakers.c:85:34: error: "/*" within comment define_loudspeakers.c:87:1: error: "/*" within comment make: *** [define_loudspeakers.pd_linux] Error 1 This is with gcc version 4.3.3 (Debian 4.3.3-3) Any hints are greatly appreciated! Peter

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Can't compile pd 0.45.2 with jack support
by Dmitriy 20 May '09

20 May '09

Hi, everyone! I have a problem compiling pd on fedora 10 i386. Even if i use flag --enable-jack while configuring, there's no jack option in the Media menu, nor in the pd -help output Is there some special cases when jack found or not? oh, and i have jack 1.9.2, could this be an issue? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Cheers, Dmitriy Noskov

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Re: [PD] who wants to port [wacom] for windows?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 20 May '09

20 May '09

On May 20, 2009, at 12:36 PM, patrick wrote: > >> [hid] works with wacoms in Linux, it is just that Debian and Ubuntu >> have been working on tightening up the security with each new >> release, so you have to go thru extra tricks to get data via HID >> for something other than the X server. I don't know the latest >> tricks, anyone? > exactly! i have a Wacom Graphire 2 (USB) and everything is working > with Ubuntu Jaunty (HAL, .fdi) for example in Gimp pressure is > working. BUT [hid] doesn't output. i can see the device (/dev/input/ > event6 for example) and the features. > > i am root so i should be able to poll the tablet, but i guess X11 is > taking the control... anyone? > > pat IIRC, I think X or whatever process is opening the devices as exclusive. Perhaps if you change your X config so that X doesn't use the wacom, then you'll get events. Do you get events from cat'ing the device? I.e: cat /dev/input/event5 .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith

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Pd-extended 0.41.4 release candidate 1
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 20 May '09

20 May '09

Ok, so this thing is just about ready to release! Please hammer on it, report any little bug or annoyance you might find to the bug tracker! You can see some info about the included changes here: http://puredata.info/dev/NextRelease Windows and Debian/PowerPC builds coming soon.... http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic

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Re: [PD] [OT]Mailing-List-Info Extraction-Software
by Luigi 20 May '09

20 May '09

Am 20.Mai.09 um 20.Mai.09 MESZ 01:00 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: > > You can download the whole archive of this list as a single file, I > think. Yes, thats cool for the pd-list.... Doesnt work for goole/yahoo though... Thanks Luigi > One thing that I have always dreamed about is an interface to all > of the Pd patches ever posted to the pd lists. It probably would be > easy to do with Perl or Python. > > .hc > > On May 19, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Luigi wrote: > >> Hi List, >> >> a question that is not PD-related: >> >> Since a few weeks i am thinking if there is some kind of software, >> that "extracts" messages from lists, be it >> mailing lists, yahoo, or google groups. >> >> I am following th pd-list for quite some time and the information >> here is extremely valuable. >> >> The problem is the filtering, of course you can browse the >> archives, but i was wondering if anybody knows of a better way. >> >> A software-based solution that helps one to "restructure" >> information that is "hidden" in these kinds of lists. >> >> Of course it would need some human effort to sort by subject, topic >> or move to categories.... >> >> Any Ideas/Suggestions ? >> >> All the best >> Luigi >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > "[T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own > government." - Martin Luther King, Jr. > > > > ------->>>>>>>>>>----------------->>>>>>>>>>>>----- Dipl-Toning.(FH) Luigi Rensinghoff mobil: 0177-5412191 skype: gigischinke luigi.rensinghoff(a)freenet.de

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[PD-announce] pd on iPods @ Handmade Music, Brooklyn, May 21
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 20 May '09

20 May '09

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=79591941607 Type: Music/Arts - Exhibit Date: Thursday, May 21, 2009 Time: 7:30pm - 10:30pm Location: 3rd Ward Street: 195 Morgan City/Town: Brooklyn, NY Phone: 7187154961 Email: RSVP handmade(a)3rdward.com * ROBOTIC GAMELAN: The GamelaTron by League of Urban Robots makes an appearance, with a fully robotic composition for a high-tech take on the traditional Indonesian instruments * RESCUED iPODS: Hans-Christoph Steiner and Chris 'the Widget' DiMauro is saving old mobile devices and PDAs from being junked, by harnassing open-source software to make them powerful, useful, expressive, fun tools, toys, and instruments instead * POCKET ANDROIDS: Peter Kirn shows off a new, in-progress app for turning Google's open-source Linux platform into a gestural controller - and for connecting any computer running any operating system for music, visuals, and interaction via Java and OpenSoundControl Open hacking and party + time to get close to the instruments and gadgets + mini-workshops/show-and-tell + a musical performance by the Robotic Balinese Gender Wayang. For full details visit http://handmademusic.noisepages.com/ Presented Every 3rd Thursday by createdigitalmusic.com with our friends at music trend-setters XLR8R.com, DIY bible makezine.com, and self-made marketplace Etsy.com. FREE admission and PBR while it lasts ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free software means someone else controls that, and to some extent controls you." - Richard M. Stallman _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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