Pd-list November 2009

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Compiling pd svn on OSX 10.6
by Robert Gründler 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Hi all, i'm having problems compiling pd 0.42 on OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard). At the first attempt, i got some errors with finding basic header files like "stdlib.h". Turned out that the configure script contained a wrong -isysroot flag in this line: MORECFLAGS="-isysroot /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.4u.sdk The folder did not exists on my system, so i changed it to /Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.6.sdk. After changing this, the compiler stops with the following error: ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c: At top level: ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c:2125: error: expected ‘=’, ‘,’, ‘;’, ‘asm’ or ‘__attribute__’ before ‘BlockWhileAudioUnitIsRunning’ ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c: In function ‘StopStream’: ../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.c:2157: warning: implicit declaration of function ‘BlockWhileAudioUnitIsRunning’ lipo: can't figure out the architecture type of: /var/folders/KX/KXFfopgIHmmf2rIFIKIJpE+++TI/-Tmp-//ccVrmJvS.out make: *** [../portaudio/src/hostapi/coreaudio/pa_mac_core.o] Error 1 Seems to be portaudio related, so i checked out the latest svn version of portaudio and compiled it separately, which works fine. Has anyone else encountered this issue? thanks, -robert ps: My compiler version: gcc --version i686-apple-darwin10-gcc-4.2.1 (GCC) 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5646) (dot 1)

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pow~, etc. in Pd-extended 0.42.5
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Pd-vanilla added pow~, abs~, exp~, and log~. Pd-extended had those from cyclone by default since 0.39.3. IIRC, pow~ is the only one that has issues since it it incompatible with the cyclone one. So I am wondering how best to handle this in the next Pd-extended release. I have started making a 'vanilla' libdir that is all of the pd- internals from 0.42.5. This gives us the option to keep the cyclone pow~ as the default and then access the new pow~ via vanilla/pow~ and the standard declare/import styles. So all you who use pow~ with Pd- extended, what do you think the best plan is? The other related issue is perhaps its time to remove the included libs from loading by default... Then people who want complete vanilla compatibility would just load 'vanilla' and nothing else by default. That would also provide a mechanism for backwards compatibility using libs like vanilla-0.42.5, vanilla-0.41.4, etc. .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "[T]he greatest purveyor of violence in the world today [is] my own government." - Martin Luther King, Jr.

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Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
by Marco Donnarumma 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Ok, now I see JN, yes i know that, but i'm looking for a solution within Pd itself, using only one parent patch to include and visualize different subpatches alternatively. It's about usability of a software developed in Pd, not about my personal laptop's screen resolution. M 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné <jnm(a)rom.fr> > on linux and macos you can define many other workspaces to extend the > size of your desk. on OSX, the software is "spaces", > > JN > > Thanks JN, > mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by "different > screen spaces"? > > (better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too) > > > 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné <jnm(a)rom.fr> > > did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ? > > JN > > > -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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default blocksize readsf
by Peter Plessas 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Dear List, what is the default (disk) blocksize of the read/writesf~ objects when one doesn't supply an argument? Thanks! P

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GUI switching control scenes
by Marco Donnarumma 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Hi list, i'm trying to understand how to build a user-friendly GUI within Pd and the lack of enough space to place all elements is always blocking me. Let's say i have my main interface (parent patch) 1024x768. All the surface is occupied by sound controls. Then i would like to have a toggle allowing me to switch among different "scenes" (i.e. sound control, OSC controls, audio generators, ecc..), but each scene should occupy the same space 1024x768 of the main interface in the main parent patch. I had a vague "success" juxtaposing GOP subpatches, but then what happens is that you want to move a slider in the upper subpatch but you can easily move also whatever GUI object lays below and this is obviously kinda too messy. I was wondering if there is a way to dinamically change the name of a subpatch while loaded, but i guess there should be simpler strategies... any idea? anybody did it already? thanks cheers -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Re: [PD] GUI switching control scenes
by Marco Donnarumma 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Thanks JN, mm.. sorry dumb question, could you specify what you mean by "different screen spaces"? (better keep the conversation on the list so others can participate too) 2009/11/19 Jean-Noël Montagné <jnm(a)rom.fr> > did you try to work with diffrent screen spaces ( on linux and macosx) ? > > JN > > -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Re: [PD] Studies on sound
by Marco Donnarumma 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Hi, I just moved in Edinburgh and wondering to apply for the Sound Design course here at university of Edinburgh. It's a course developed in conjunction with the informatics department (which seems to be really good here). You can check it here: http://sd.caad.ed.ac.uk/mscsounddesign/ check the link section "related MSc courses" they have also digital composition and performance and other courses. and http://iem.at our friends there rocks! :P but it's mainly in german. cheers M Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 12:23:09 +0100 > From: Konstantinos Benardis <c.benardis(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [PD] Studies on sound > To: PD list <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: > <17a357ee0911190323p652010b1je01dc5cf870b71a2(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi list > > Well, the question is not that relevant with the list?s subject but i can > not find another place to ask and i think many people from here would be > able to answer. I am trying to find a master degree in digital > music/digital > sound, in Europe, in English Spanish or Greek. So i wanted to ask if > someone > knows which Institutes are considered good on this field. > > Thank you >

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Re: [PD] pd GST pdf not found
by Marco Donnarumma 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

mm..sorry August, it was working few time ago and i didn't check properly. Anyway you should be able to read the paper IOhannes presented at Pd Convention in Brasil here: http://puredata.info/community/projects/convention09/zmolnig.pdf/view (even though it seems i have weird problems reading it (?)) M Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:31:30 +0100 > From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] pd GST pdf not found > To: august <august(a)alien.mur.at> > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <4B051072.5030802(a)iem.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > august wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm trying to look into pdGST bindings. Sehr cool, so gar uhr > > leiwand, heh! > > > > but, when I go here: > > > http://umlaeute.mur.at/Members/zmoelnig/projects/pdgst/PdGst.pdf/view > > > > I get a site error. > > > > oops; seems my server is in a state of crashing. > i hope i have backups. > > > fmgar > IOhannes > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAksFEHIACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvS9mQCfWvuVHz5XD1sAP9EffBKoAH5g > JegAoMQEnOSJiAJ4wZn6fpWYX5cbxzUD > =VUwX > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 10:33:57 +0100 > From: IOhannes m zm?lnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] pd GST pdf not found > To: august <august(a)alien.mur.at> > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <4B051105.2030103(a)iem.at> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > august wrote: > > Hi, > > > > also, does it work on a Mac? I ask not because I use one, but > > because I'd like to use it in an instructional demo this Friday > where > > the lab is only outfitted with Macs. > > i actually never tried to compile it on anything but debian. > but i don't expect too many problems. > > fadrtm > IOhannes > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAksFEQQACgkQkX2Xpv6ydvT8vgCgnNqS16caNW8a6XBEbaP2sxAJ > vaQAoKsXM2LAqBjAgqFj+Fikb3rOizWo > =85ZD > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list mailing list > Pd-list(a)iem.at > to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > End of Pd-list Digest, Vol 56, Issue 109 > **************************************** > > -- Marco Donnarumma aka The !S.A.D! Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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pd GST pdf not found
by august 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Hi, I'm trying to look into pdGST bindings. Sehr cool, so gar uhr leiwand, heh! but, when I go here: http://umlaeute.mur.at/Members/zmoelnig/projects/pdgst/PdGst.pdf/view I get a site error. also, does it work on a Mac? I ask not because I use one, but because I'd like to use it in an instructional demo this Friday where the lab is only outfitted with Macs. -august.

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Vanilla [list-s2l] prototype
by Matt Barber 19 Nov '09

19 Nov '09

Hello list, Attached is a prototype for a vanilla + list-abs [list-s2l]. I have leaned on the side of completeness and error reduction rather than efficiency -- there are many many ways to make this more efficient. Also, it doesn't handle delimiters yet (right now it breaks a symbol into its constituent characters, casting float symbols back to float), but I think I could figure out how to do it. Neither this nor [list-l2s] handles % appropriately... I'd appreciate any feedback. Matt

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