Pd-list October 2009

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what is the purpose of following options on canvas properties?
by Ivica Ico Bukvic 02 Nov '09

02 Nov '09

I am having a hard time understanding what is the purpose of following options on the canvas properties window. they apparently have no effect on 0.42.5: X units per pixel Y units per pixel and X range from/to Y range from/to ico

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Re: [PD] pd-extended build on 9.10
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 01 Nov '09

01 Nov '09

Hey Olsen, Let's keep this on the list since its of general interest. For your problem, you just need to remove the previous build files: rm -rf /home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure-data/packages/linux_make/build Also, a 9.10 build was just recently posted here too. You could try that one. .hc On Oct 29, 2009, at 10:17 AM, olsen wrote: > hi hans > i had to reinstall my system & i finally decided to checkout karmic > koala. so i tried to build pd-extended on my own - ending with this > errör: > > /doc/1.manual/1.introduction.txt.tmp | sed 's|PD_VERSION|Pd version > 0.42.5|' \ > > /home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure-data/packages/linux_make/ > build//usr/lib/pd/doc/1.manual/1.introduction.txt > rm /home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure-data/packages/linux_make/build// > usr/lib/pd/doc/1.manual/1.introduction.txt.tmp > cp -pr ../extra /home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure-data/packages/ > linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/ > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/fiddle~/.svn/text- > base/makefile.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/fiddle~/.svn/text- > base/fiddle~-help.pd.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/fiddle~/.svn/text- > base/fiddle~.c.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/fiddle~/.svn/ > entries': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/fiddle~/.svn/all- > wcprops': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/loop~/.svn/text- > base/makefile.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/loop~/.svn/text- > base/loop~.c.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/loop~/.svn/text- > base/test-loop~.pd.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/loop~/.svn/text- > base/loop~-help.pd.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/loop~/.svn/ > entries': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/loop~/.svn/all- > wcprops': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/loop~/.svn/prop- > base/test-loop~.pd.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/pd~/.svn/text-base/ > z.pd.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: 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data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/pd~/.svn/text-base/ > notes.txt.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/pd~/.svn/entries': > Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/pd~/.svn/all- > wcprops': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/choice/.svn/text- > base/choice.c.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/choice/.svn/text- > base/makefile.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/choice/.svn/text- > base/choice-help.pd.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/choice/.svn/ > entries': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/choice/.svn/all- > wcprops': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/.svn/text-base/rev1- > final.pd.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/.svn/text-base/ > README.txt.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/.svn/text-base/ > rev1~.pd.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/.svn/text-base/rev1- > 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denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/pique/.svn/all- > wcprops': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/sigmund~/.svn/text- > base/makefile.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/sigmund~/.svn/text- > base/sigmund~.c.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/sigmund~/.svn/text- > base/sigmund~-help.pd.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/sigmund~/.svn/ > entries': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/sigmund~/.svn/all- > wcprops': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/stdout/.svn/text- > base/makefile.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/stdout/.svn/text- > base/stdout-help.pd.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/stdout/.svn/text- > base/stdout.c.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/stdout/.svn/ > entries': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/stdout/.svn/all- > wcprops': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/lrshift~/.svn/text- > base/makefile.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/lrshift~/.svn/text- > base/lrshift~-help.pd.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/lrshift~/.svn/text- > base/lrshift~.c.svn-base': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/lrshift~/.svn/ > entries': Permission denied > cp: cannot create regular file `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure- > data/packages/linux_make/build//usr/lib/pd/extra/lrshift~/.svn/all- > wcprops': Permission denied > make[2]: *** [install] Error 1 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure-data/ > pd/src' > make[1]: *** [pd_install] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/olsen/pd/pd-extended_2/pure-data/ > packages' > make: *** [install] Error 2 > olsen@aldebaran:~/pd/pd-extended_2/pure-data/packages/linux_make$ > > sounds this familiar? > you've a workaround / help at hand? > thanks & greets > ø > > > > > -- > ETs DNA will not be televised > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Terrorism is not an enemy. It cannot be defeated. It's a tactic. It's about as sensible to say we declare war on night attacks and expect we're going to win that war. We're not going to win the war on terrorism. - retired U.S. Army general, William Odom

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FFT calculations - Theory help
by Ricardo Lameiro 01 Nov '09

01 Nov '09

Hello all, sorry for this question, but I would like to know if is faster to Analyze a sound using FFT, when the sound has more or less harmonics? Is faster if the sound is less complex, or just "more accurate"? -- Fagote / Contrafagote Bassoon / Contra-bassoon http://myspace.com/ricardolameiro

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"sel" doesn't recognize "tabread"-values
by Mirko Maier 31 Oct '09

31 Oct '09

hi list, does anybody know why "sel" doesn't recognize a value from an array? see attached pd patch, running on pd 0.39 thanx- mirko #N canvas 107 125 706 381 12; #N canvas 0 0 450 300 graph3 0; #X array array1 10 float 3; #A 0 0.0428575 -0.657144 -0.642859 -0.614287 -0.585716 -0.557144 -0.585716 -0.57143 -0.242857 -0.371429; #X coords 0 1 9 -1 200 140 1; #X restore 36 33 graph; #X obj 305 130 tabread array1; #X obj 305 188 sel -0.57143; #X obj 305 214 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X msg 305 104 7; #X floatatom 305 160 12 0 0 0 - - -; #X text 343 100 why doesn't "sel" recognize the value??; #X connect 1 0 5 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 2 0; -- GRATIS fÃ¼r alle GMX-Mitglieder: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/maxdome01

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OS X 10.6
by Phil Stone 31 Oct '09

31 Oct '09

Hello, Has anyone had any luck compiling Pd-Extended for Snow Leopard? Is it close to showing up in the nightly builds? I ask because I may have to switch to 10.6 soon. Thanks, Phil Stone

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problem with pd~ and GEM
by Jaime Oliver 31 Oct '09

31 Oct '09

Hi all, I am using pd-0.42-5 and recent GEM from svn in fedora 10. I am trying to call a pd~-subpatch with live video in GEM from an audio parent patch. everything works fine on it's own instance. I have started pd~ with the args: pd~ -ninsig 2 -noutsig 2 -fifo 20 pd~ -ninsig 0 -noutsig 0 -fifo 20 the patch opens in both cases, but the live video isn't rendered. The GEM window is unresponsive. Destroying and Creating the window doesn't change it. GL polygons are rendered at loading but are not rendered thereafter. In general the gui seems to be not functioning properly, bangs looked banged, messages stay thicker when pressed, windows don't close, etc... does anyone have any idea why could this be happening? are people opening GEM patches as a pd~-subpatch? Below are the errors: best, J ////GEM says: video driver 0: video4linux2 v4l2 video driver 1: video4linux v4l consistency check failed: canvas_vis GEM: Direct Rendering enabled! GEM: GLEW version 1.5.1 GEM: Start rendering v4l2: changed size from 64x64 to 640x480 v4l2: GEM: pix_video: Opened video connection 0x1F /// Every time I destroy and create the GEM window I get: GEM: Stop rendering GEM: Direct Rendering enabled! GEM: GLEW version 1.5.1 GEM: Start rendering v4l2: GEM: pix_video: Opened video connection 0x1F ///In the shell pd prints: [root@calafia bin]# ./pd /home/joliverl/hand/audio/main.pd priority 98 scheduling enabled. priority 96 scheduling enabled. priority 96 scheduling enabled. priority 98 scheduling enabled. Pd plug-in scheduler called, chans 2 2, sr 44100 socket receive error: Connection reset by peer (104) priority 96 scheduling enabled. priority 98 scheduling enabled. Pd plug-in scheduler called, chans 0 0, sr 44100 /// pd prints, when closing the pd~-subpatch error: pd~: Broken pipe

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Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX: pix_freeframe update??
by Pagano, Patrick 31 Oct '09

31 Oct '09

pdp_frei0r needs a [pdp_convert image/YCrCb/*] on it for anyone who is trying as well. Does anyone have a suggestion on how to get a usuable set of FreeFrame plugins working with pdp_freeframe? Or perhaps can pix_freeframe be modified so that you can select the plugins with selector like pdp_freeframe? ________________________________________ From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at] On Behalf Of Pagano, Patrick [pat(a)digitalworlds.ufl.edu] Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:33 PM To: Hans-Christoph Steiner; Tom Schouten Cc: Pd List Subject: Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX OKay pdp_frei0r is working with the plugins. pdp_freeframe is crashes if i point it to PetesVFX plugin_binary and source will not build on OSX. I have some binarys prebuilt inside .frf files for OSX but they do not appear. What do you think the best way to get freeframes to show up with pdp_freeframe? I guess i can use pix_freeframe, but i would like to have them working with pdp. Ideas anyone? pp _______________________________________________ Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Re: [PD] pd-extended bugs
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 31 Oct '09

31 Oct '09

Hey Ivica, Let's keep this on the pd-list so we have a record of it and others can contribute. Those bugs are known, and in the bug tracker, as far as I know. As far as visual display bugs in Pd-extended, I'm not going to look at those until I start working on Pd-extended 0.43 and incorporating the new GUI. But patches are welcome if anyone wants to try their hand at that beforehand. The code in pd.tk that makes the scrollbars hide is based on "pack forget", search for that. .hc On Oct 30, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote: > Hans, > > Not sure if you were aware of this but both 0.41.4 and 0.42.5 have > following > 2 bugs (I am not looking at 0.43 right now since it is still under > development): > > 1) undo patch cord color reverts to black rather than gray (I > suspect this > is somewhere in c code) > 2) when restoring patcher windows sometimes the viewport gets reset > (as if > it does not retain the offset value) This one might be a bit tougher > to > trace down. I messed a bit with it and did some clean-up but it is > still not > quite there > > BTW, do you have a good way to suggest where one could intercept > scrollbar > scrolling to disable scrollbars? Usually it is linked to xview or > yview but > those are built-in commands. Can we link such commands to a second > command > or do we need to link the canvas set command to something else? > > Any examples would be most appreciated... > > Best wishes, > > Ivica Ico Bukvic, D.M.A. > Composition, Music Technology > Director, DISIS Interactive Sound & Intermedia Studio > Assistant Co-Director, CCTAD > CHCI, CS, and Art (by courtesy) > Virginia Tech > Dept. of Music - 0240 > Blacksburg, VA 24061 > (540) 231-6139 > (540) 231-5034 (fax) > ico(a)vt.edu > http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/bukvic/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- kill your television

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Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 30 Oct '09

30 Oct '09

I just committed a fix for this, it should be more flexible: http://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/pure-data?view=rev&revision=126… .hc On Oct 30, 2009, at 3:28 AM, Tom Schouten wrote: > hello pat, > > I don't have a recent OSX around to test it, but as a quick hack > you might try to replace the following 3 lines the file > pdp/include/pdp_types.h around line number 50 : > > #ifndef __cplusplus > typedef int bool; > #define true 1; > #define false 0; > #endif > > with this: > > #ifndef __cplusplus > //typedef int bool; > //#define true 1; > //#define false 0; > #endif > > and see if it helps > > cheers, > tom > > > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:41:51PM -0400, Pagano, Patrick wrote: >> hey hoping you see this soon >> ________________________________________ >> From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at] On Behalf Of >> Pagano, Patrick [pat(a)digitalworlds.ufl.edu] >> Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 6:42 PM >> To: Hans-Christoph Steiner >> Cc: PD List >> Subject: Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX >> >> okay >> >> i installed gsl from source 1.9 NOT from Fink >> i return to /pd-extended/externals/pdvjtools/pdp_freeframe, type >> make and i get >> >> ~/extended/pd-extended/externals/pdvjtools/pdp_freeframe/:$ make >> gcc -I../../pdp/include -DPD -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno- >> unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame- >> pointer -ffast-math -freg-struct-return -DLINUX -fPIC -DPDP_VERSION= >> \"0.0.1\" -DFF_PLUGIN_DIR=\"/usr/lib/FreeFrame\" -fPIC -I. -I/usr/ >> X11R6/include -I/usr/include -I../../../pd/src -I../../pdp/ >> include -DPD -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno- >> parentheses -Wno-switch -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer - >> ffast-math -freg-struct-return -DLINUX -fPIC -DPDP_VERSION= >> \"0.0.1\" -DFF_PLUGIN_DIR=\"/usr/lib/FreeFrame\" -o pdp_freeframe.o >> -c pdp_freeframe.c >> In file included from ../../pdp/include/pdp.h:41, >> from pdp_freeframe.c:28: >> ../../pdp/include/pdp_types.h:50: error: two or more data types in >> declaration specifiers >> ../../pdp/include/pdp_types.h:50: warning: useless type name in >> empty declaration >> In file included from ../../pdp/include/pdp.h:41, >> from pdp_freeframe.c:28: >> ../../pdp/include/pdp_types.h:51:1: warning: "true" redefined >> In file included from /usr/include/dlfcn.h:40, >> from pdp_freeframe.c:26: >> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-apple-darwin9/4.0.1/include/stdbool.h:37:1: >> warning: this is the location of the previous definition >> In file included from ../../pdp/include/pdp.h:41, >> from pdp_freeframe.c:28: >> ../../pdp/include/pdp_types.h:52:1: warning: "false" redefined >> In file included from /usr/include/dlfcn.h:40, >> from pdp_freeframe.c:26: >> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-apple-darwin9/4.0.1/include/stdbool.h:38:1: >> warning: this is the location of the previous definition >> pdp_freeframe.c: In function ‘scan_plugins’: >> pdp_freeframe.c:94: warning: passing argument 3 of ‘scandir’ from >> incompatible pointer type >> make: *** [pdp_freeframe.o] Error 1 >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________________ >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [hans(a)at.or.at] >> Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:41 PM >> To: Pagano, Patrick >> Cc: PD List >> Subject: Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX >> >> You're missing the 'gsl' package. >> >> .hc >> >> On Oct 28, 2009, at 10:16 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: >> >>> okay i installed fink and got pdp and pidip to build. >>> Not sure how to approach the freeframe issue. Is there a way to use >>> the OSX freeframes without having to build PeteWardens for linux >>> which i assume will fail? So i decided to simply type make in >>> pdp_freeframe and i get >>> >>> make >>> gcc -I../../pdp/include -DPD -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno- >>> unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame- >>> pointer -ffast-math -freg-struct-return -DLINUX -fPIC - >>> DPDPF_VERSION= >>> \"0.1\" -DFR_PLUGIN_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/frei0r-1/\" -fPIC -I. -I/ >>> usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/include -I../../../pd/src -I../../pdp/ >>> include -DPD -Wall -W -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-unused -Wno- >>> parentheses -Wno-switch -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer - >>> ffast-math -freg-struct-return -DLINUX -fPIC -DPDPF_VERSION= >>> \"0.1\" - >>> DFR_PLUGIN_DIR=\"/usr/local/lib/frei0r-1/\" -o pdp_frei0r.o -c >>> pdp_frei0r.c >>> In file included from ../../pdp/include/pdp.h:41, >>> from pdp_frei0r.c:28: >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_types.h:50: error: two or more data types in >>> declaration specifiers >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_types.h:50: warning: useless type name in >>> empty declaration >>> In file included from ../../pdp/include/pdp.h:41, >>> from pdp_frei0r.c:28: >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_types.h:51:1: warning: "true" redefined >>> In file included from /usr/include/dlfcn.h:40, >>> from pdp_frei0r.c:26: >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-apple-darwin9/4.0.1/include/stdbool.h:37:1: >>> warning: this is the location of the previous definition >>> In file included from ../../pdp/include/pdp.h:41, >>> from pdp_frei0r.c:28: >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_types.h:52:1: warning: "false" redefined >>> In file included from /usr/include/dlfcn.h:40, >>> from pdp_frei0r.c:26: >>> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-apple-darwin9/4.0.1/include/stdbool.h:38:1: >>> warning: this is the location of the previous definition >>> In file included from ../../pdp/include/pdp.h:80, >>> from pdp_frei0r.c:28: >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:25:27: error: gsl/gsl_block.h: No >>> such file or directory >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:26:28: error: gsl/gsl_vector.h: No >>> such file or directory >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:27:28: error: gsl/gsl_matrix.h: No >>> such file or directory >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:28:26: error: gsl/gsl_blas.h: No such >>> file or directory >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:29:29: error: gsl/gsl_linalg.h: No >>> such file or directory >>> In file included from ../../pdp/include/pdp.h:80, >>> from pdp_frei0r.c:28: >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:44: error: syntax error before >>> ‘gsl_block’ >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:44: warning: no semicolon at end of >>> struct or union >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:45: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ >>> in declaration of ‘vector’ >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:45: warning: data definition has no >>> type or storage class >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:46: error: syntax error before >>> ‘matrix’ >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:46: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ >>> in declaration of ‘matrix’ >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:46: warning: data definition has no >>> type or storage class >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:47: error: syntax error before ‘perm’ >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:47: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ >>> in declaration of ‘perm’ >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:47: warning: data definition has no >>> type or storage class >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:51: error: syntax error before ‘}’ >>> token >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:51: warning: type defaults to ‘int’ >>> in declaration of ‘t_matrix’ >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:51: warning: data definition has no >>> type or storage class >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:65: error: syntax error before >>> ‘TransA’ >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:65: warning: function declaration >>> isn’t a prototype >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:80: error: syntax error before >>> ‘TransA’ >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:82: warning: function declaration >>> isn’t a prototype >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:84: error: syntax error before >>> ‘TransA’ >>> ../../pdp/include/pdp_matrix.h:86: warning: function declaration >>> isn’t a prototype >>> pdp_frei0r.c: In function ‘scan_plugins’: >>> pdp_frei0r.c:109: warning: passing argument 3 of ‘scandir’ from >>> incompatible pointer type >>> make: *** [pdp_frei0r.o] Error 1 >>> >>> >>> It would appear i do not have gsl installed but Fink say i have gsl >>> and gsl-shlibs 1.12-1 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [hans(a)at.or.at] >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:30 PM >>> To: Pagano, Patrick >>> Cc: PD List >>> Subject: Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX >>> >>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource/?searchterm=svn >>> >>> That's the whole repository, you probably just want a section: >>> http://puredata.info/docs/developer/devlayout >>> >>> .hc >>> >>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: >>> >>>> I searched and found several subversion and SVN links but nothing >>>> that said pd-extended >>>> I found the link for pd though >>>> >>>> http://sourceforge.net/scm/?type=svn&group_id=55736 >>>> svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data >>>> pure- >>>> data >>>> >>>> and i am checking this out now. >>>> Is this the correct location? >>>> >>>> pp >>>> ________________________________________ >>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [hans(a)at.or.at] >>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:51 PM >>>> To: Pagano, Patrick >>>> Subject: Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX >>>> >>>> try searching puredata.info >>>> >>>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: >>>> >>>>> Okay I will try that. I think I had an old tarball of pdp >>>>> where are the SVN directions? >>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [hans(a)at.or.at] >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:13 PM >>>>> To: Pagano, Patrick >>>>> Cc: IOhannes m zmoelnig; PD List >>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX >>>>> >>>>> pdp and pidip build every night from source on Mac OS X since they >>>>> are >>>>> included in Pd-extended. Try this: >>>>> >>>>> cd trunk/externals >>>>> make pdp >>>>> make pidip >>>>> >>>>> .hc >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 27, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> to build pdp-freeframe & pdp_feri0r i think you need to build >>>>>> pdp/ >>>>>> pidip from source and i do not think it currently works on osx >>>>>> there are build errrors. >>>>>> >>>>>> i will share them today >>>>>> >>>>>> pp >>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>> From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at] On Behalf >>>>>> Of >>>>>> IOhannes m zmoelnig [zmoelnig(a)iem.at] >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:34 AM >>>>>> To: PD List >>>>>> Subject: Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX >>>>>> >>>>>> Pagano, Patrick wrote: >>>>>>> I think an initial problem might be if people have preinstalled >>>>>>> pd- >>>>>>> extended they may not have pd, pdp and pidip sources installed >>>>>>> already. >>>>>>> Certainly Freeframe1.5 and fri0r latest will have to be built >>>>>>> too >>>>>> >>>>>> FreeFrame is merely a convention and consists of a single header >>>>>> file. >>>>>> you don't have to "install" anything on your machine to build >>>>>> pdp_freeframe/pix_freeframe (the FreeFrame.h comes with >>>>>> pdp_freeframe). >>>>>> afaik, [pdp_freeframe] (as well as [pix_freeframe]) only >>>>>> implement >>>>>> FF1.0, no fancy FFGL (aka FF1.5) stuff. >>>>>> >>>>>> frei0r is merely a convention and consists of a single header >>>>>> file. >>>>>> you don't have to "install" anything on your machine to build >>>>>> pdp_freior >>>>>> (the frei0r.h comes with pdp_frei0r). >>>>>> >>>>>> obvisouly you will have to install freeframe/frei0r plugins if >>>>>> you >>>>>> want >>>>>> to use them. but that is only relevant on the deployment side, >>>>>> not >>>>>> on >>>>>> the build machine. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> fgmarsd >>>>>> IOhannes >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> Programs should be written for people to read, and only >>>>> incidentally >>>>> for machines to execute. >>>>> - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you >>>> can >>>> hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a >>> more >>> direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, >>> it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to >> realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either >> change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity." -John Gilmore

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Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 30 Oct '09

30 Oct '09

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSource/?searchterm=svn That's the whole repository, you probably just want a section: http://puredata.info/docs/developer/devlayout .hc On Oct 27, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: > I searched and found several subversion and SVN links but nothing > that said pd-extended > I found the link for pd though > > http://sourceforge.net/scm/?type=svn&group_id=55736 > svn co https://pure-data.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pure-data pure- > data > > and i am checking this out now. > Is this the correct location? > > pp > ________________________________________ > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [hans(a)at.or.at] > Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:51 PM > To: Pagano, Patrick > Subject: Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX > > try searching puredata.info > > On Oct 27, 2009, at 2:33 PM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: > >> Okay I will try that. I think I had an old tarball of pdp >> where are the SVN directions? >> ________________________________________ >> From: Hans-Christoph Steiner [hans(a)at.or.at] >> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 2:13 PM >> To: Pagano, Patrick >> Cc: IOhannes m zmoelnig; PD List >> Subject: Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX >> >> pdp and pidip build every night from source on Mac OS X since they >> are >> included in Pd-extended. Try this: >> >> cd trunk/externals >> make pdp >> make pidip >> >> .hc >> >> On Oct 27, 2009, at 7:54 AM, Pagano, Patrick wrote: >> >>> to build pdp-freeframe & pdp_feri0r i think you need to build pdp/ >>> pidip from source and i do not think it currently works on osx >>> there are build errrors. >>> >>> i will share them today >>> >>> pp >>> ________________________________________ >>> From: pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at [pd-list-bounces(a)iem.at] On Behalf Of >>> IOhannes m zmoelnig [zmoelnig(a)iem.at] >>> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 4:34 AM >>> To: PD List >>> Subject: Re: [PD] pdp_freeframe and pdp_fei0r for OSX >>> >>> Pagano, Patrick wrote: >>>> I think an initial problem might be if people have preinstalled pd- >>>> extended they may not have pd, pdp and pidip sources installed >>>> already. >>>> Certainly Freeframe1.5 and fri0r latest will have to be built too >>> >>> FreeFrame is merely a convention and consists of a single header >>> file. >>> you don't have to "install" anything on your machine to build >>> pdp_freeframe/pix_freeframe (the FreeFrame.h comes with >>> pdp_freeframe). >>> afaik, [pdp_freeframe] (as well as [pix_freeframe]) only implement >>> FF1.0, no fancy FFGL (aka FF1.5) stuff. >>> >>> frei0r is merely a convention and consists of a single header file. >>> you don't have to "install" anything on your machine to build >>> pdp_freior >>> (the frei0r.h comes with pdp_frei0r). >>> >>> obvisouly you will have to install freeframe/frei0r plugins if you >>> want >>> to use them. but that is only relevant on the deployment side, not >>> on >>> the build machine. >>> >>> >>> fgmarsd >>> IOhannes >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Programs should be written for people to read, and only incidentally >> for machines to execute. >> - from Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you can > hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking at things from a more basic level, you can come up with a more direct solution... It may sound small in theory, but it in practice, it can change entire economies. - Amy Smith

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