Pd-list October 2009

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Fwd: Arte Mov locative arts prize: pd project won.
by palmieri, ricardo 15 Oct '09

15 Oct '09

hi guys. just to share my hapinness. me and kruno jost won a locative arts Arte mov prize. http://www.artemov.net/ the link is in portuguese, sorry :( the project runs under linuxUbuntuBox and, of course... puredata controls all the data, audio and video. thanks for all the people working in this community. this prize was not posisble without you. cheers friends! missing pdcon09 ;( bye palm -- ricardo palmieri mobile# +551185833173 [palm.estudiolivre.org] [myspace.com/livenoisetupi] [skype:palmieriricardo] [msn: ricardopalmieri(a)bol.com.br] [linux user # 392484] :(){:|:&};: "A renúncia é a libertação. Não querer é poder." Fernando Pessoa

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[PD-announce] pmpd~
by cyrille henry 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

hello, pmpd is now version 0.08! i've updated the pmpd~ object. pmpd~ allow physical modeling real time audio synthesis, i hope it is now more usefull. i change a bit the way to use it and add 1 exemple. i wish to add more when i'll get time. get it on pd svn Cyrille _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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'Meta-programming in Artistic Installations' at the IMCIC 2010
by Tuti 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Hello all, We are organizing an invited session titled: 'Meta-programming in Artistic Installations' at the IMCIC 2010 (see info below), so we invite all interested in contributing with draft papers (2000-5000 words) or extended abstracts (400-2000 words) to this proposed session (submission deadline is October, 21st). Please, send your contribution in PDF to the following e-mail address: nics.unicamp.br(a)gmail.com Regards, Jose Fornari researcher @ NICS INFO: The International Multi-Conference on Complexity, Informatics and Cybernetics: IMCIC 2010 Jointly with The 16th International Conference on Information Systems Analysis and Synthesis: ISAS 2010 and The 8th International Conference on Computing, Communications and Control Technologies: CCCT 2010 April 6th - 9th, 2010 ~ Orlando, Florida USA http://www.iiis2010.org/imcic/ October 21th, 2009: Submission deadline of draft papers (2000-5000), extended abstracts (400-2000) and abstracts for inter-disciplinary communication (200-600 words)

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exhibition section proposal
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

I want to revive the idea for the exhibition section of puredata.info, in a hopefully simplified form. Using a Plone Smart Folder and Plone Articles with an 'exhibition' keyword/tag, I made a quick exhibition with two entries. I think it could work quite well if there could be thumbnail images on the smart folder listing page. Other than that, its looking good. http://puredata.info/exhibition I am proposing that anyone can post to it, with the only rules being it has to be projects that substantially use Pd, and the author of a post cannot write about a project that she worked one. The idea here is that anyone can post anytime with the only rule being that you can't post work that you worked on yourself, only the work of other people. Hopefully that will give us the benefits of a curated section without the downsides of exclusivity. How's that sound? .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using ReBirth is like trying to play an 808 with a long stick. - David Zicarelli

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[PD-announce] TINY NOISE CAMP :: WEEKEND in Cologne and Moers [Oct. 15 -18th]
by Jack 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

TINY NOISE WEEKEND in Cologne and Moers TINY NOISE and our friends are happy to present a whole weekend full of workshops and concerts, geared at sharing and enjoying excellent art practices in the field of experimental audio art and noise music! We do this because noise makes us feel so much better! Since 2005 TINY NOISE has been bringing together audio artists from all over the world in specific local contexts where there is a desire to strengthen the local sound and noise art scenes. For over a year we have been researching and preparing with our friends in Cologne and Moers to design a special event that the local community can enjoy and grow from. So please join us and bring your friends during this weekend of event. Think of it as a kind of festive 'noise science fair' and camp-out. In Cologne, visitors can relax and enjoy the show and in Moers visitors will become participants, having the opportunity to join the artists in creating new instruments, watch and take part in performances, hang out all night in the work space and join us the next morning for a brunch discussion. Thursday, Oct. 15th, 20h [ @ KunstWerk, Deutz-Mülheim Straße 127 - 129, Cologne ] tiny noise weekend begins with a concert evening in Cologne, including a wide range of current practices in noise and sound art. During this evening, you can expect, among other noisy things, breaking glass and maybe some blood (Justice Yeldham), spinning tone wheels (Derek Holzer), new sound from reconstructed records (EOSIN), sharp blacks and whites (RYBn) and pretty much everything you ever wanted to hack at school but weren't allowed to (RaumZeitPiraten). - Lucas Abela, a.k.a. Justice Yeldham (australia) - Diana Combo a.k.a. EOSIN (portugal) - Derek Holzer/TONEWHEELS(usa/germany) - FrlLinientreu (germany) - RYBn (france) - RaumZeitPiraten (germany) - Tina Tonagel (germany) (+ secret HappyBirthDeath djs....why?... shhhh!) Saturday, Oct. 17th 14:00 [ @ Bollwerk 107, Moers (right beside the Moers train station) ] 22 hour NOISE CAMP (Saturday 14:00 -> Sunday noon) The Netzwerk Improvisierte Musik Moers, the artists and all of the collaborating organizers invite musicians, music lovers, nerds, noise makers and everyone curious to this TINY NOISE CAMP gathering. During this Noise Camp, each artist will have a workshop setup and visitors are welcome to join in and learn new techniques. In the large open space of the Bollwerk, a giant collective laboratory will take place, lasting all night long, with intermittent performances, complete with comfortable places to relax and a brunch discussion the next morning. Visitors can try out experimental hardware and software tactics, meet the artists, help to build noise machines and installations and should also find some space to share their own knowledge with other interested people. Circuit Bending, Pure-Data, free Software Based systems, homemade instruments, analog and concrete music techniques and exciting visual tactics will clash with Post-Industrial Electronics brought forward by artists from the Australia, Portugal, France, USA, and the German Rhine / Ruhr area. - Lucas Abela, a.k.a. Justice Yeldham (australia) - Diana Combo a.k.a. EOSIN (portugal) - Derek Holzer/TONEWHEELS(usa/germany) - FrlLinientreu (germany) - RYBn (france) - Saal5 (germany) - RaumZeitPiraten (germany) - Tina Tonagel (germany) - Robert Kondorosi (germany) As it is our ultimate goal to gather people together, because we truly feel that noise makes us feel better, TINY NOISE is also very happy and proud because this is the first collaboration between so many different experimental sound related groups in the Rhine / Ruhr region, including ZAM Zentrum für Aktuelle Musik (Köln), Elektronentoto(Köln), Bollwerk107(Moers), Kooperation der Netzwerke ON Neue Musik(Köln) and nimm! Netzwerk Improvisierte Musik Moers. Thanks to all the kind supporters from this region, we are now able to bring together some artists we work with often and some new artists from the region that we have just met. We're looking forward to meeting you there also! Full program and artists details at: www.tinynoise.tk _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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[PD-announce] Pd-extended 0.41.4 Ubuntu Netbook Remix 9.04 build
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Hey all, I made a build of Pd-extended 0.41.4 for Ubuntu Netbook Remix/Jaunty 9.04. It works on my netbook, let me know if it works for you: http://autobuild.puredata.info/releases/pool/Pd-0.41.4-extended-ubuntu-jaun… .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "[W]e have invented the technology to eliminate scarcity, but we are deliberately throwing it away to benefit those who profit from scarcity." -John Gilmore _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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gem alpha channel q
by rene beekman 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

how does one invert an alpha channel in gem ? i've created an alpha channel from the rgb channels, but need the channel to be inverted. somehow i can't seem to find a way to do this... hope it is just sleep deprivation and i'm simply overlooking the obvious... :) thanks in advance, rene

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PD extended libraries
by babsyco babsyco 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Hi guys-I just bought a new macbook and downloaded the latest PD-Extended release, but I'm not use to this 'extended' thing so I was hoping someone could tell me how to access the libraries of patches it says are included in the download? Pretty basic question I know, but I just can't find them and I'm not use to the mac operating system. Thanks,Babsyco _________________________________________________________________ View photos of singles in your area Click Here http://clk.atdmt.com/NMN/go/150855801/direct/01/

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Re: [PD] Binfile (was Turning non-audio data feeds into audio)
by alan.dubdub＠googlemail.com 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Im on a mac so everything is hidden inside the app package, which is a folder really. I go to application> right click/ ctrl click on the file and select "show content" then put the binary in contents/resources/extra If you on linux it should be work the same (being Unix and all) but not sure about windows i am afraid Does anyone have any suggestions to get binfile.pd working on windows / linux?? marius. On 13 Oct 2009 02:21, Jerome Covington <info(a)thespacebetweenthewords.org> wrote: > I can't seem to find this directory. > ~/pd/contents/resources/extra > Should I create that directory structure myself? And if so where does it > go? > On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 3:54 PM, alan brooker alan.dubdub(a)googlemail.com> > wrote: > darn! I think it may have something to do with the binfile.pd which is > an external from Mr.Peaches-for some reason the binary doesn't get > found by PD- I attach a copy for OSX- if you add it to > ~/pd/contents/resources/extra (don't put in in the the mrpeach folder > because cant find it). I m not too sure where binaries are for other > os > Basically If the binfile gets working it is a good way to make sound > based on computer data, as opposed to just playing the raw file of a > jpeg -thank for looking :) > On 10/12/09, Jerome Covington info(a)thespacebetweenthewords.org> wrote: > > Hey, I can get the visualization to work, but not the "audioization". > > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:53 PM, The Space Between the Words > > info(a)thespacebetweenthewords.org> wrote: > > > >> Thanks, Alan! > >> > >> I will take a look at your binary conversion patch first chance I get. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Jerome > >> > >> > >> On Oct 11, 2009, at 7:40 PM, alan brooker alan.dubdub(a)googlemail.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> it's better if you can recognise the stock price in the music, > >>> because if you can't, you could have taken that data from anywhere > >>> else and it wouldn't matter, so why would you call it stockmarket > >>> music then?... > >>> > >>> I agree fully- the point in which the output is true to it's source > >>> and making something sound good is tricky and down to skill- > >>> > >>> I worked on a simple patch that created audio from binary data from > >>> loaded files and I am trying to make good sounds from the patch in > >>> different ways continually- half the fun though!(a work in progress! > >>> contains osx app and pd patch for other os- uses Mr.Peaches binfile): > >>> > >>> > http://databodega.googlecode.com/files/bin_data_application.macosx%20.zip > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On 10/11/09, Jerome Covington info(a)thespacebetweenthewords.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Excellent, Mathieu. > >>>> I have a lifetime of experience in music to inform the aesthetics > well. > >>>> > >>>> Now I just need more on the "how", and to that extent I am very > >>>> interested > >>>> in process within this community. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Regards, > >>>> Jerome Covington > >>>> . . . . : . . . . : > >>>> "define audio development" > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Mathieu Bouchard matju(a)artengine.ca > >>>> >wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Sun, 11 Oct 2009, Jerome Covington wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Is anyone interested in sharing their process for turning real-time, > >>>>> > >>>>>> non-audio data feeds, into music? See a great example of one > possible > >>>>>> direction, here. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Coïncidentally, I wrote some thoughts about it in the Pd chatroom a > few > >>>>> hours before your email, because of a similar topic there: > >>>>> > >>>>> « > >>>>> > >>>>> musical meaningfulness comes from meaningfulness of the data > >>>>> beforehand... > >>>>> basically, if you put garbage in, you get garbage out. > >>>>> > >>>>> the exception to that is that a programme is a kind of data in > itself, > >>>>> so > >>>>> the programme can be considered a kind of meaningful input... and if > >>>>> the > >>>>> programme imposes itself as the source of the meaning and > successfully > >>>>> downplays the incoming garbage, it can make the output meaningful; > >>>>> > >>>>> but unless one is very skilled at understanding the information > theory > >>>>> standpoint of music, using random values gives you just more > >>>>> meaningless > >>>>> music like what you are talking about... sort of like picking a > random > >>>>> book > >>>>> from the library of babel. > >>>>> > >>>>> » > >>>>> > >>>>> http://vimeo.com/5415629 > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> now this is what I add to my above thoughts, this time in > relationship > >>>>> to > >>>>> the video: without necessarily explicitly thinking about information > >>>>> theory, > >>>>> one can get to interesting results intuitively... one essentially > has > >>>>> to > >>>>> focus on getting beautiful results for likely inputs instead of > being > >>>>> content with whatever fits with the description of a certain art > >>>>> concept. > >>>>> Any former stock-market music I had listened to sounded like crap. > What > >>>>> Patrick did was to make his programme insert so much beauty and > >>>>> coherence > >>>>> in > >>>>> the market's noise, that it made it sound meaningful... actually, > it's > >>>>> more > >>>>> like this: the programme can only output music that sounds > reasonably > >>>>> good > >>>>> no matter the input, and the meaningless input selects one of the > >>>>> possible > >>>>> nice-sounding outputs. Overall, the music is more shaped by > Patrick's > >>>>> æsthetic decisions than by the stock market, and it's perfect like > >>>>> that. > >>>>> > >>>>> so, Jérôme, I would mostly just suggest that you make patches so > that > >>>>> the > >>>>> results sound fairly good no matter the input you give them, and > >>>>> optionally, > >>>>> if you can make the input also recognisable in the output, it's a > bonus > >>>>> feature that can feel very rewarding, but it depends on the > context... > >>>>> for > >>>>> feeding stockmarket data it may not matter as much, but for live > >>>>> interactive > >>>>> data from performers or visitors, they have to recognise their own > >>>>> impact > >>>>> on > >>>>> the music, else the point is going to be lost on them, really. but > even > >>>>> for > >>>>> stockmarket data, it's better if you can recognise the stock price > in > >>>>> the > >>>>> music, because if you can't, you could have taken that data from > >>>>> anywhere > >>>>> else and it wouldn't matter, so why would you call it stockmarket > music > >>>>> then?... > >>>>> > >>>>> so maybe you wanted people to explain their actual processes, but I > >>>>> hope > >>>>> that you will also enjoy this reflexion on the question of what > might > >>>>> make > >>>>> processes be good or not. > >>>>> > >>>>> _ _ __ ___ _____ ________ _____________ _____________________ ... > >>>>> | Mathieu Bouchard, Montréal, Québec. téléphone: +1.514.383.3801 > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Jerome Covington > > . . . . : . . . . : > > "define audio development" > > > -- > Regards, > Jerome Covington > . . . . : . . . . : > "define audio development"

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add path under os x.6
by jurgen 14 Oct '09

14 Oct '09

Hi, there is this ongoing thread but not really an answer - if someone wanted to add a lib that is inside the pd-extended package, how to do that? under os x.6 the app is grayed out so definitely no way to open the package content from the 'new path' selection. I'm curious to know how to do that, although as a simple functioning work-around I copied the entire contents folder somewhere else and add/ define my path to there. Jurgen

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