Pd-list September 2008

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Re: [PD] recommendations for usb (firewire?) audio interfaces?
by Spencer Russell 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 10:54 AM, <pd-list-request(a)iem.at> wrote: > > B. Bogart hat gesagt: // B. Bogart wrote: > > > I'm looking for my first decent audio interface, as I'm getting more in > > to sound and will start working on my first audio installation. > > > > I would like something with 3-4 mic inputs, and about 4-8 total inputs > > and outputs. > > FWIW, I've been very happy with my Presonus Firebox. I usually run with about 5ms of latency for live electroacoustic music, using Ubuntu Hardy with the packaged realtime kernel. -spencer

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Pdvst plugin lost setting while saving
by Kuba Szczypek 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

Dear friends, I have a problem with pdvst with Ableton Live, but I think this problem egsist also with other DAWs. When I set up some parameters in my plugin created with pdvst, after Ctrl-S saving all parameters lost their settings and jump to initial values. Have you also the same problem , or maybe somebody know how to solve this problem? Thank you for attention. Kuba Szczypek ---------------------------------------------------- Zabawne przygody Brytyjczyka wÂśrĂłd cudzoziemcĂłw. Merde! chodzi po ludziach. Przeczytaj! - SzczegĂłÂły: http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fmerde.html&sid=4…

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Pdvst plugin lost setting while saving
by Kuba Szczypek 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

Dear friends, I have a problem with pdvst with Ableton Live, but I think this problem egsist also with other DAWs. When I set up some parameters in my plugin created with pdvst, after Ctrl-S saving all parameters lost their settings and jump to initial values. Have you also the same problem , or maybe somebody know how to solve this problem? Thank you for attention. Kuba Szczypek ---------------------------------------------------- ZaczynaÂła od stanowiska eskpediantki. Teraz mĂłwiÂą o niej 'caryca mody' lub 'demon'. Zobacz przepis na diablicĂŞ wg. redaktor naczelnej amerykaĂąskiego Vouge'a - ANNY WINTOUR. Czytaj:http://klik.wp.pl/?adr=http%3A%2F%2Fcorto.www.wp.pl%2Fas%2Fwintour.html&sid=492

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recommendations for usb (firewire?) audio interfaces?
by B. Bogart 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

Hey all, I'm looking for my first decent audio interface, as I'm getting more in to sound and will start working on my first audio installation. I would like something with 3-4 mic inputs, and about 4-8 total inputs and outputs. I was looking at devices such as the m-audio fast track ultra, but it appears to not work very well under linux. Seems that that device is not fully duplex either, (due to usb?). I also looked at some firewire devices (like the echo fireaudio4), but that one looks currently unsupported by freebob. Lots of the other devices on freebob seem to no longer be sold. (m-audio stuff in particular) The reason I was thinking usb is that it would work on all my machines, as they don't all have firewire. Firewire would be ok, if the device was easy to set up, really worked and was stable (especially for installation). My installation machines all have firewire, just not my portables. So anyone have any recommendations? I looked through the archives, but it seems most of those cards are now out of date. Oh and it would be nice if the device was around $500US. Things I'm interested in doing with the card: using a mmic array to track the position of sound emitting objects (without amazing precision), and recording environmental sounds in installations. Thanks all for your time, B. Bogart

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Trying to compile latest extended on 64-bit (K)Ubuntu
by Darren Landrum 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

Hello, all! I'm trying to compile the latest extended (0.40.3) on my 64-bit Kubuntu system. I went through the following process: cd pd/src autoconf configure-in > configure Theoretically, that made the configure script. All seems well until: ----- checking tcl8.7/tcl.h usability... no checking tcl8.7/tcl.h presence... no checking for tcl8.7/tcl.h... no checking tcl8.6/tcl.h usability... no checking tcl8.6/tcl.h presence... no checking for tcl8.6/tcl.h... no checking tcl8.5/tcl.h usability... no checking tcl8.5/tcl.h presence... no checking for tcl8.5/tcl.h... no checking tcl8.4/tcl.h usability... yes checking tcl8.4/tcl.h presence... yes checking for tcl8.4/tcl.h... yes checking for main in -ltcl85... no checking for main in -ltcl8.5... no checking for main in -ltcl84... no checking for main in -ltcl8.4... yes checking for main in -ltk85... no checking for main in -ltk8.5... no checking for main in -ltk84... no checking for main in -ltk8.4... yes .................... alsa= yes checking for snd_pcm_info in -lasound... yes MORECFLAGS --------------- -O6 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer checking for special C compiler options needed for large files... no checking for _FILE_OFFSET_BITS value needed for large files... no ./configure: line 8298: syntax error near unexpected token `SINF,' ./configure: line 8298: `AST_EXT_LIB_CHECK(SINF, m, sinf)' ----- I don't know enough about the build scripts to figure out where the syntax error is and how to correct it. If anyone can help me out, I'd greatly appreciate it. Also, if anyone can help me with how to package this whole thing up, maybe the 64-bit version could be offered up along with all of the others. Thank you for the help! Regards, Darren Landrum

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Re: [PD] [import] question
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

Hey, I am cc'ing the Pd list with the discussion about [import] since I think it is of general interest. On Sep 17, 2008, at 3:46 AM, Phil Stone wrote: > Hey Hans, > > Thanks for replying. > > I'm [import]ing mrpeach and cyclone -- I'm using svf~ from cyclone > and some mrpeach OSC objects at least once for each polyphonic > instantiation of synthesizer voice. Are [import]ed "libdir style" > objectclasses loaded once and shared by all instances, or loaded > once for each instance? The state of namespaces is currently a work in progress. So with abstractions, using import means that they are loaded into the parent patch's canvas-local namespace only. But with binary/compiled externals, once they are loaded, they are loaded globally. I plan on focusing on fixing this stuff later this year for the next Pd- extended release. > Are mrpeach and cyclone libdir-style libraries? In Pd-extended, yes. > Can I ask your recommendation for the best way to do external- > inclusion in this (auto-generated poly-objects) situation? I'll > stick with [import] if it is not some kind of performance or memory > hit, but I don't fully understand the trade-offs, if any. There aren't really any major performance considerations here that I am aware of. Mostly it is about ensuring that your patch will work on the widest array of computers. If you want to guarantee that you always get the right object, then use a namespace prefix, like [cyclone/prepend]. Then you'll always get cyclone's prepend no matter how the person's Pd-extended is setup, or what [import]s are used. For Pd-vanilla users, they would just need to have cyclone installed as individual files per object-class in "extra/cyclone" and it would work the same (i.e. by copying "extra/cyclone" from Pd- extended, or building it themselves). .hc > > Phil > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >> Hey, >> >> Sorry, I am super slammed at the moment. Whether it loads it into >> memory depends on the library type. With the old single-file- >> multiple-objectclass format, like Gem, PDP, etc. the whole thing >> is indeed loaded into memory. With the "libdir" style, no >> objectclass is loaded into memory until you use it. >> >> .hc >> >> On Sep 16, 2008, at 7:09 PM, Phil Stone wrote: >> >>> Hi Hans, >>> >>> Sorry to bug you directly on this, but I think my question got >>> lost in the noise, and I'm trying to figure this out before I >>> release a big chunk of abstraction to the Pd community (another >>> polyphonic synthesizer, granular this time). >>> >>> Re-iterating my question from below: when [import] says "loaded >>> library: blah", is that literally what it's doing, loading the >>> library into memory, once for every one of the messages in a >>> multiple [import] situation as described below? >>> >>> I doubt that it is, as that would be incredibly inefficient, but >>> I would like to make sure. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> Phil >>> >>>> multiple copies of cyclone (for instance, as below) are not >>>> really getting loaded are they? Pardon my ignorance of the >>>> mechanics of [import]. >>>> >>>> Phil >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Phil Stone wrote: >>>> >>>>> > I'm using [import] on an abstraction (as discussed earlier); >>>>> this > abstraction does some automatic object instantiation >>>>> (via [polypoly]) > and each of the generated objects has an >>>>> [import ...] in it. This leads > to a barrage of console >>>>> output, like: >>>>> > >>>>> > [import] loaded library: 'cyclone' >>>>> > libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the canvas-local >>>>> objectclass path >>>>> > libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the canvas-local >>>>> objectclass path >>>>> > [import] loaded library: 'cyclone' >>>>> > libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the canvas-local >>>>> objectclass path >>>>> > libdir_loader: added 'cyclone' to the canvas-local >>>>> objectclass path >>>>> > . >>>>> > . >>>>> > . >>>>> > (repeat for number of voices created by [polypoly]. >> >> >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------- >> >> "Free software means you control what your computer does. Non-free >> software means someone else controls that, and to some extent >> controls you." - Richard M. Stallman >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste

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New version of plugin~
by Jacob Lee 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

As hinted at in an earlier email (thanks for the help!), I have a new version of plugin~. It supports two new messages: bind foo - listens for messages sent to foo-gain, foo-drive, etc. You can bind sliders, sssad objects, etc. to the same names and have everything just work. bindscaled foo - the same, but translates messages from the 0-127 range into the range appropriate for that parameter (as defined by the ladspa plugin). If anyone has a pithier name for this message, I'm all ears. I also went through and fixed several segfaults, mostly relating to messages sent without a plugin being loaded. Also, specifying a library file as a name without a full path now works whether or not LADSPA_PATH is defined. I've posted my version at http://artdent.homelinux.net/publicsvn/plugin~/ . I've only tested it on Linux, as the SConstruct file needs some more work to be cross-platform and to integrate with the pd-extended scons scripts. I'd be keen to see this get into the main svn repository (pending, of course, any fixes, improvements, etc). Should I make a patch file and add it to the patch tracker? Given the number of files involved, it might be easier to just check in the whole directory. These extra messages have simplified some of my patches quite nicely; I hope they're useful to others in the same way. (Also, side note to Thomas Grill: stupidly, I had been compiling flext from the (out-of-date) sourceforge repository. With the latest version from the correct repo, the autotools build works perfectly and does indeed require no more information than the path to the pd sources.) -- Jacob Lee artdent(a)gmail.com

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Pd.exe has stopped working (newbie in trouble - PD crashing on vista)
by Cormac Crawley 23 Sep '08

23 Sep '08

Hi folks, I'm new to the mailing list and relatively new to PD. I have an unknown problem with my system which causes PD to randomly crash and windows gives me the error (as in subject). Quite often, it is when I have audio switched on which leads me to believe it might be my soundcard. Other times, it even happens when I perform a really simple task like opening a helpfile on an object. I have tried using the latest versions of PD extended, and have tried rolling back to prior versions. I have also tried increasing the audio delay anything upto 1024msecs note: audio will clip if I leave delay to default of 70; again maybe points to soundcard. I'm running Vista (I have turned of most unnecessary vista services) on a sony vaio with 2G ram centrino duo processor. Does anyone else have this problem on Vista? Any help or suggestions will be much appreciated. Cormac

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icmc08 reports
by Steffen Juul 22 Sep '08

22 Sep '08

http://vimeo.com/1643757 Blind Date, feat. Florian Hollerweger and IOhannes Zmolnig (care to elaborate on it/the setup?) Any other?

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Hans - window_name FR
by Luke Iannini 22 Sep '08

22 Sep '08

Yo Hans Lazy feature request - [window_name] would be way more useful i it could grab the names of other subpatches as well as its grandparent so it can be used in abstractions. I'll add it myself if I get time, but thought I'd ask : ) I've been doing some cool stuff with it anyway - I'll share soon! Best Luke

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