Pd-list August 2008

pd-list@lists.iem.at

101 participants
156 discussions

variables in throw~
by Atte André Jensen 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

Hi I'd like to have a |throw~ channelX| where X is an integer (say 1-8) controlled from a number box. It doesn't seem to be possible, but I hope I'm wrong. Any input appreciated. -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk

8 10

rock, paper, scissors
by potax flan 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

hi i tried to do a recreation of the classic rock, paper, scissors game in pd. attached is the easy part :-) i got stuck in the interesting part, the one where the results from each chain ("hand", if you will) must be compared, to see who wins. before building a super complex and rube golberg-like chain of gates, moses and selects, i wanted to check for advice here. im quite sure i overlooked some brilliant and effective way of doing this. thanks p #N canvas 0 22 511 410 10; #X obj 108 33 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X obj 108 117 sel 0 1 2; #X msg 125 245 set paper; #X obj 108 89 random 3; #X symbolatom 108 310 10 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 308 117 sel 0 1 2; #X msg 325 244 set paper; #X obj 308 78 random 3; #X symbolatom 308 310 10 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 108 61 metro 2000; #X msg 108 221 set rock; #X msg 142 269 set scissors; #X msg 308 221 set rock; #X msg 342 269 set scissors; #X connect 0 0 9 0; #X connect 1 0 10 0; #X connect 1 1 2 0; #X connect 1 2 11 0; #X connect 2 0 4 0; #X connect 3 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 12 0; #X connect 5 1 6 0; #X connect 5 2 13 0; #X connect 6 0 8 0; #X connect 7 0 5 0; #X connect 9 0 3 0; #X connect 9 0 7 0; #X connect 10 0 4 0; #X connect 11 0 4 0; #X connect 12 0 8 0; #X connect 13 0 8 0;

2 3

pix_record -> pix_film plays back too fast
by Spencer Russell 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

I'm using pix_record to write processed video captured live from a DV cam to disk, and then playing it back with pix_film. Unfortunately, it seems to record at around 16fps even though GEM should be running at 20. I tried lowering GEM to 15 fps thinking that maybe it was having trouble keeping up, but then it wrote at around 12fps. The framerates are the ones that show up in Quicktime player, and seems to be the same as when I play back with pix_film. I've tried recording both with [auto 1( and banging it with a metro, but strangely it doesn't seem to matter how fast I run the metro. I tried it at 15 fps and 50fps with the gemwin at 20fps and the recorded video seemed to be the same. What controls the framerate of pix_record and pix_film? I'd think that using [auto 1( would do both of them at the GEM rate, but apparently that seems to not be happening. This is on my friend's MacBook pro running OS X. thanks in advance, spencer

2 2

Re: [PD] Pd-list Digest, Vol 41, Issue 8
by Juanjose 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

Ya esta el web flyer en un raton mando los machotes para impresión Saludosssss..

1 0

[PD-announce] Fwd: Particpate!
by Kyle Klipowicz 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

This looks promising! ~Kyle ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Lumpen/C-PS/Version/ETC.. <ed(a)lumpen.com> Date: Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 1:08 PM Subject: Particpate! To: kyleklip(a)gmail.com It's weird how many projects are in the pipeline here at the CPS>> please particiapte in at least one! the list of things: 1. Bloggin. (sorry i have to pimp this) 2. Join Artists for Change (Unite for Change) 3. Lumpen 17 Anniversary Action: July 4 4. Call for writers and Interns: Proximity magazine 5. Early warning. Select Media Festival 7 : Infoporn 6. Call for Work! Bridgeport All-Stars! /// 1. We are bloggin. http://www.lumpentimes.blogspot.com/ Find out why you will hate Mc Cain and other stuff we found on the innernet. http://www.lumpentimes.blogspot.com/ //// 2. Artists for Change (Unite for Change) Saturday June 28, 2008 7pm - 9pm @ The Co-Prosperity Sphere 3219 S Morgan St We don't usually endorse any politician, but we have to do everything we can to stop Mc Cain from winning. Come out and join a new Obama inspired organization that is having a way early Pre-party for Obama's victory. Meet your fellow citizens that still have hope and figure out what cultural workers can do together to increase the volume of awareness for the upcoming election. "This event is about bringing all types of artists together to unite and make a difference. We want all artists to unite and use their creative powers and gain an overwhelming support for Barack Obama. You'll gather -- not just with Obama supporters, but with anyone who's tired of the politics of the past and ready for something new -- to discuss our common vision for the future. And you'll start planning how to build this movement across the country in the weeks and months ahead. So, come join us for a brief (but hearty) presentation and discussion about supporting Barack Obama. " Please RSVP @ http://my.barackobama.com/page/event/detail/4gldk /////// 3. Lumpen 17 Anniversary Action July 4 July 4th 2008 (7pm - 2am) Co-Prosperity Sphere 3219 S Morgan St We are having a birthday party for the overground culture magazine, Lumpen. Come celebrate 17 years of publishing, mayhem and action with us at the Co-Pro Sphere. We will release #109, the 1968-2008 redux issue and have a little celebration. An installation and library of all our past issues and related projects will be on display. We will also be exhibiting some 1968 ephermera, posters and art. Poster art from the May 1968 uprising, the Lumpen 1968 issue and other Lumpen ephemera and stuff from the lumpen archives will be on display. You can take some of this stuff home with you. In the Reuben Kincaid Project Room we will be featuring a solo show of recent works by Rand Sevilla. We might have our shit together and open up the Karaoke lounge. Featuring: Food: Korean Polish Bar - B Q (Get here around 8pm to eat) Videos: Back in the 90s and the earl 2000s they made DVDS. We will screen some old compilations. Performances: Pure Magical Love Killer Whales Fought Membership: You can sign up to various projects and stuff at the Membership in Something table! $5 donation will go towards the bands. ///// 4. Call for writers and Interns: Proximity magazine Speaking of magazine... Are you contributing to Proximity? Proximity is Chicago's new art and culture magazine. It is the best art mag in Chicago. if not the entire midwest! And it's written by people like you. If you haven't read a copy visit our blog to see where you can pick one up. http://www.proximitymagazine.blogspot.com/ This is a last call for contributors for our second issue which we are working on right now. We need your words by July 10, 2008. If you want to start simple then give us a holler and email to ed(a)proximityagazine.com. Proximity is accepting applications for internships. The commitment is unpaid, and lasts 10-15 hours per week for 3-4 months. Ideal candidates are hard-working, self-starting, meticulous, and interested in culture and politics. Interns help with administration, work at monthly events, research on new projects, and more. You will get first-hand experience in exhibition programming, special events, fundraising and development, and administrative operations. To apply, contact Rachael(a)proximitymagazine.com ///// 5. Early warning. Select Media Festival 7 : Infoporn Announcing the Seventh Annual Select Media Festival: INFOPORN Deadline for submission: September 1, 2008 >start>>>> Heartbeats. Beverages. Products and byproducts. Things we make, and things that make us. Seconds, minutes, millennia. From the mundane to the majestic, it can all be documented, diagnosed, understood, dispersed. Right? Graphs, charts, and maps record data, keep history, and document our existence. Sometimes, they provide visual and aesthetic stimuli too. Select Media 7: INFOPORN will be a visual explosion of these points and paths, these executions and exercises and maps. We want to put these moments on display, to measure them out out. We want to understand and appreciate; be enraged, enlightened, amazed by them. We want to feast. WHAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR! INFOPORN EXHIBITION all media formats Send your greatest hits or make something new. Use color, shape, form, sound. Use marbles or twigs. Use a computer, a camera, a crayon. The data is the art and you are the simple stenographer. Measure it. Record it. Jot it down, plot it out, pass it out, and capture it. Let us see it, let us relate to it, let us celebrate or begin to understand it. A SUBJECTIVE ATLAS OF CHICAGO all media formats Document the thing that has the greatest effect on your existence in Chicago. Realign existing info, or imagine new ways of navigating the city. Maps political or personal, realism or utopia, rollerblades or red tape, online or inline: it's all legit. Draw conclusions if you want, but they are not necessary. A publication/project will be created and released/exhibited at the festival. >>> Deadline! September 1, 2008 Send PDFs, posters, boxes of dirt, publications, CDs, DVDs, cassette tapes, crayon boxes, maps in bottles, urls, ftp sites, etc. to: Select Media Festival 7 960 W 31st Street Chicago Il 60608 or email smfinfoporn(a)gmail.com http://www.selectmediafestival.org other contact info:: ph: 773.837.0145 smfinfoporn(at)gmail.com Edmar <ed(at)lumpen.com> Gregory Calvert <gregoryjcalvert(at)gmail.com> ////// 6. Call for Work! Bridgeport All-Stars! Do you live in Bridgeport, the community of the future? Are you an artist or cultural worker that makes stuff? Then send us an email at edmarlumpen (at) gmail.com We are seeking fresh work to check out made by inhabitants from the 'Port for possible inclusion in a group show that will open on August 8, 2008 at the Co-Prosperity Sphere. http://www.lumpen.com/CPS/about.html We want to see your work by July 1, 2008 So get your shit together. The Bridgeport All Stars exhibition will showcase the fantastic array of work made by the secret stars of the overground art scene bubbling forth from the Southside. Please send us a website url , sample jpegs and whatever. Show is curated by the C-PS welcoming committee. //// Thanks for enduring the long emails ! We love you. Please do get involved. -- To change your subscription preferences, go here: http://www.lumpen.com/mailinglists/user/login.php?Email=kyleklip@gmail.com -- ----- ------------ ---- ----- ---- -------- - ------ http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

1 0

german forum or mailinglist
by smilingmolecule 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

hi, i was wondering why there is no place like this especially in german language. there are so many german speaking people here. i dont know if this was discussed before. what do you think about this? have a nice day robert

5 5

ALSA + Edirol UA-25 not working under Fedora 9
by David F. Place 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Hi: Foolishly, I upgraded my perfectly configured workstation from Fedora 5 to Fedora 9. Since then I've been struggling to regain my position. I was happily using my Edirol UA-25 under ALSA with Pd, but now that doesn't work. It gives a perplexing error message. Perhaps someone has seen it. Thanks for looking. Best, David [david@Congo pd]$ pd -alsa -listdev -nogui oops: ALSA cards not reported in order? audio input devices: 1. NVidia CK804 (hardware) 2. NVidia CK804 (plug-in) 3. UA-25 (hardware) 4. UA-25 (plug-in) audio output devices: 1. NVidia CK804 (hardware) 2. NVidia CK804 (plug-in) 3. UA-25 (hardware) 4. UA-25 (plug-in) API number 1 no midi input devices found no midi output devices found oops: ALSA cards not reported in order? When I try to switch to UA-25 (plug-in), I get the following error messages: ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1240:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card snd_pcm_open (input): No such file or directory ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1240:(_snd_pcm_hw_open) Invalid value for card snd_pcm_open (output): No such file or directory However, aplay -v -D plughw:UA25 foo.wav works fine. Also, ALSA works with the NVidia card in Pd. System Configuration: Pd version 0.41.4 [david@Congo pd]$ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [CK804 ]: NFORCE - NVidia CK804 NVidia CK804 with ALC850 at irq 23 1 [UART ]: MPU-401 UART - MPU-401 UART MPU-401 UART at 0x330, irq 5 2 [UA25 ]: USB-Audio - UA-25 EDIROL UA-25 at usb-0000:00:0b.0-2, full speed [david@Congo pd]$ uname -r 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.x86_64 [david@Congo pd]$ uname -a Linux Congo 2.6.25.11-97.fc9.x86_64 #1 SMP Mon Jul 21 01:09:10 EDT 2008 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

3 4

abstraction dont works, sample player, openpanel
by smilingmolecule 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

hello, i need your help. i build a small sample player which works good. but if i put it into an abstraction it dont works anymore. i atached the two versions, maybe someone has an idea why it dont works. the next thing i am trying is to build in the openpanel object. i also atached a file which shows how i tried. i am also searching for a book/document/website which goes deeper into pd. i need infos about string handling object types arrays and so on. have a nice day ragards robert #N canvas 192 118 731 652 10; #X obj 71 -13 dac~; #N canvas 474 293 450 300 smaple_loop 0; #X msg 29 93 1; #X msg 145 111 0; #X msg 146 133 print; #X obj 136 158 readsf~ 4 1e+06; #X obj 186 212 *~ 0.1; #X obj 127 213 *~ 0.1; #X text 200 88 1 starts playback; #X text 203 111 0 stops it; #X obj 226 265 outlet~; #X obj 130 261 outlet~; #X obj 16 23 inlet; #X obj 71 27 inlet; #X msg 132 39 open /home/bamsen/pd/patches/stimme_001.wav; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 0 0 12 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 3 1 4 0; #X connect 3 2 4 0; #X connect 3 3 5 0; #X connect 3 4 0 0; #X connect 3 4 12 0; #X connect 4 0 8 0; #X connect 5 0 9 0; #X connect 10 0 0 0; #X connect 11 0 1 0; #X connect 12 0 3 0; #X connect 12 0 0 0; #X restore 24 -114 pd smaple_loop; #X obj 1 -211 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -4034 -1 -1; #X obj 76 -214 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -258113 -1 -1; #X obj 60 -67 *~; #X obj 136 -86 hsl 128 15 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X connect 1 0 4 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 1 1; #X connect 4 0 0 0; #X connect 5 0 4 1; #N canvas 405 214 450 564 10; #X obj 79 7 dac~; #N canvas 0 25 1021 680 smaple_loop 0; #X msg -182 44 1; #X msg -66 62 0; #X msg -65 84 print; #X obj -75 109 readsf~ 4 1e+06; #X obj -25 163 *~ 0.1; #X obj -84 164 *~ 0.1; #X text -11 39 1 starts playback; #X text -8 62 0 stops it; #X obj 15 216 outlet~; #X msg -47 -21 open /home/bamsen/pd/patches/stimme_001.wav; #X obj 194 101 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -4034 -1 -1; #X obj 210 101 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -258113 -1 -1; #X obj 164 191 *~; #X obj 229 101 hsl 128 15 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 10 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X connect 0 0 3 0; #X connect 0 0 9 0; #X connect 1 0 3 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 3 1 4 0; #X connect 3 2 4 0; #X connect 3 3 5 0; #X connect 3 4 0 0; #X connect 3 4 9 0; #X connect 5 0 12 0; #X connect 9 0 3 0; #X connect 9 0 0 0; #X connect 10 0 0 0; #X connect 11 0 1 0; #X connect 12 0 8 0; #X connect 13 0 12 1; #X coords 0 -1 1 1 260 17 1 100 100; #X restore 72 -63 pd smaple_loop; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #N canvas 0 0 768 608 10; #X msg 48 153 1; #X msg 119 157 0; #X text 219 148 1 starts playback; #X text 222 171 0 stops it; #X obj 199 296 *~; #X obj 163 299 *~; #X obj 70 380 send~ output_sample_loop_left; #X obj 280 397 send~ output_sample_loop_right; #X obj 157 219 readsf~ 2 1e+06; #X obj 94 1 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -184257 -1 -1; #X obj 110 1 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -258139 -1 -1; #X obj 129 1 hsl 128 15 0 1 0 0 empty empty empty -2 -6 0 10 -162280 -66577 -33289 0 1; #X obj 260 1 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 10 -4032 -1 -1 ; #X msg 297 80 open $i; #X obj 270 20 openpanel; #X connect 0 0 8 0; #X connect 0 0 13 0; #X connect 1 0 8 0; #X connect 4 0 7 0; #X connect 5 0 6 0; #X connect 8 0 5 0; #X connect 8 1 4 0; #X connect 8 2 0 0; #X connect 8 2 13 0; #X connect 9 0 0 0; #X connect 10 0 1 0; #X connect 11 0 4 1; #X connect 11 0 5 1; #X connect 12 0 14 0; #X connect 13 0 0 0; #X connect 13 0 8 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0;

3 4

sssad slowness
by Atte André Jensen 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Hi Ok, so I'm playing with sssad, and it's really easy to work with. I saved some of the settings in my "environment" (a sssad save is here: http://atte.dk/download/test_alive.txt). Loading/saving the state itself is snappy, but loading the main patch is really slow (hogs the machine for 15 seconds, before the load is complete). With plans to add more things to the state, I figure something else must be done. So: 1) Is this normal behaviour of sssad? 2) Should I change something in my setup (backend, ramdisk)? I guess this is not is the part of the problem since loading a state is fast but regular load of the sssad-enabled patch is sloow, but what do I know... 3) Is something broken in my sssad install? I had problems, that I solved by moving sssad* to /usr/lib/pd/extra/ (from /usr/lib/pd/extra/sssad/), but that might have left some badness behind. BTW: sssad-example, (from which I copied stuff) also loads quite slow, maybe 2-3 seconds. -- peace, love & harmony Atte http://atte.dk | http://myspace.com/attejensen http://anagrammer.dk | http://modlys.dk

9 28

Semento is now Memento-p
by Luke Iannini 04 Aug '08

04 Aug '08

Yo, I don't think anyone is actually using Semento, but in case you are, I've renamed it to Memento-p. Memento-p has a more uniform naming scheme, which also explain which parts are necessary for using just "Polaroid" (local state-saving) and which are needed for using "Controctopus" (MIDI-to-OSC remote control), as well as some internal cleanup that changes the API. Polaroid objects have "-p" (there are only 2) and Controctopus objects have "-c". Here's the transition guide: find/replace: sft.originator = originator-p sft.rradical.state = rradical.state-p sft.commun = commun-c sft.commun.ez = commun-c-ez sft.commun.x = commun-c-justosc sft.commun.sc = commun-c-scale sft.commun.sc.constrain = commun-c-constrain sft.commun.sc.ez = commun-c-scale-ez polaroid is still polaroid Finally, if you were using the "-normalized" OSC addresses to have input scaled 0-1, that address no longer exists. Instead, commun-s-scale only attempts to scale floats, and routes all other messages directly to the outlet. Thus, if you don't want a float to be scaled, you can still get it through by prepending a selector and [route]ing on the outside. As it turns out, this is just a tuxedo on a dead woman since I'm going to be porting all of Memento-p's capabilities to SSSAD. Best Luke

1 0

Jump to page:

2024

2023

2022

2021

2020

2019

2018

2017

2016

2015

2014

2013

2012

2011

2010

2009

2008

2007

2006

2005

2004

2003

2002

2001

2000

1999

1998

Pd-list August 2008